Random Shutdowns

**daniel aristidou** · Apr 28 '08, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by ambrnewlearner

Well, I just think that this problem MAY be caused by some virus. And you can probably very easily find that.

Simply run AVAST free Anti virus (search google for it's download link ) and while installing it on your PC make sure you select an option something like - "AVAST BOOT TIME SCAN". So once system restarts after complete installation of AVAST it will scan your PC for any of virus (if present) before Windows OS completes BOOT procedure. It's very effective approach, so try it.

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HOPE THIS HELPS.......... ...

i have no virus on my pc

**questionit** · Apr 28 '08, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by daniel aristidou

i have no virus on my pc

Please send us your Pc specification

What software do you use most often?

Did you find any bad sectors in your Hard disk?

Qi

**daniel aristidou** · May 8 '08, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by questionit

Please send us your Pc specification

What software do you use most often?

Did you find any bad sectors in your Hard disk?

Qi

Ok. Here are my pc specs:

Code:

Computer System    
        Computer Name    USER-088D1C7D58
        User Name    user
        Organization    
Operating System    
        OS Name    Microsoft Windows XP Professional
        OS Version    5.1.2600
        ServicePack    2.0
        Internet Explorer Version    7.0.5730.13
        Microsoft DirectX Version    9.0c  (4.09.00.0904)
        OpenGL Version    5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
        Free Physical Memory    256 MB
        Free Page Files    1364 MB
        Free Virtual Memory    2003 MB
Registry    
        Maximum Size    54MB
        Current Size    7MB
        Status    OK
Center Processor    
        CPU Name    Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz
        Code Name    Model 2, Stepping 9
        Manufactory    GenuineIntel
        Current Clock Speed    2605Mhz
        Max Clock Speed    2605Mhz
        Voltage    N/A
        External Clock    200Mhz
        Serial Number    BFEBFBFF00000F29
        CPU ID    x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9
        Socket Designation    CPU 1
        L1-Cache    8KB
        L2-Cache    512KB
        L3-Cache    0KB
Motherboard    
        Model    P4P800
        Manufactory    ASUSTek Computer Inc.
        Serial Number    MB-1234567890
        BIOS Name    BIOS Date: 04/22/03 22:17:52 Ver: 08.00.09
        BIOS Vendor    American Megatrends Inc.
        SMBIOS Version    1005.001
        BIOS Date    22/04/2003
BIOS Features    
        ISA is supported    Yes
        PCI is supported    Yes
        Plug and Play is supported    Yes
        APM is supported    Yes
        BIOS is Upgradable (Flash)    Yes
        BIOS shadowing is allowed    Yes
        ESCD support is available    Yes
        Boot from CD is supported    Yes
        Selectable Boot is supported    Yes
        BIOS ROM is socketed    Yes
        EDD (Enhanced Disk Drive) Specification is supported    Yes
        Int 13h - 5.25 /1.2MB Floppy Services are supported    Yes
        Int 13h - 3.5 / 720 KB Floppy Services are supported    Yes
        Int 13h - 3.5 / 2.88 MB Floppy Services are supported    Yes
        Int 5h, Print Screen Service is supported    Yes
        Int 9h, 8042 Keyboard services are supported    Yes
        Int 14h, Serial Services are supported    Yes
        Int 17h, printer services are supported    Yes
        Int 10h, CGA/Mono Video Services are supported    Yes
        ACPI supported    Yes
        USB Legacy is supported    Yes
        AGP is supported    Yes
        LS-120 boot is supported    Yes
        ATAPI ZIP Drive boot is supported    Yes
Physical Memory    
        Memory Bank    BANK0
        Description    Physical Memory 0
        Device Locator    DIMM0
        Capacity    256MB
        Speed    NULLMhz
        Manufacturer    NULL
        Data Width    64bit
        Memory Type    SDRAM
        Form Factor    DIMM
Physical Memory    
        Memory Bank    BANK3
        Description    Physical Memory 3
        Device Locator    DIMM3
        Capacity    512MB
        Speed    NULLMhz
        Manufacturer    NULL
        Data Width    64bit
        Memory Type    SDRAM
        Form Factor    DIMM
Memory Resource    
        Total Memory    766MB
        Used Memory    504MB
        Free Memory    262MB
        Memory Usage    65%
Disk drive    
        Name    Maxtor 6Y080L0
        Media Type    Fixed	hard disk media
        Capabilities    81GB
        InterfaceType    IDE
        Partitions    1
        Total Cylinders    9964
        Total Heads    255
        Total Sectors    160071660
        Total Tracks    2540820
        Tracks Per Cylinder    255
        Sectors Per Track    512
        Bytes Per Sector    63
        S.M.A.R.T Support    Yes
        Current Temperature    37C (98.6F)
IDE Controller    
        Name    Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 24DB
        Manufacturer    Intel
        Status    OK
IDE Controller    
        Name    Primary IDE Channel
        Manufacturer    (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
        Status    OK
IDE Controller    
        Name    Secondary IDE Channel
        Manufacturer    (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
        Status    OK
CD-ROM Drive    
        Name    SONY DVD-ROM DDU1612
        Drive    D:
        Transfer Rate    NULL
        Status    OK
CD-ROM Drive    
        Name    SONY CD-RW  CRX225E
        Drive    E:
        Transfer Rate    NULL
        Status    OK
Video Adapter    
        Name    NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X (Microsoft Corporation)
        Video Processor    GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X
        Manufactory    NVIDIA
        Video Architecture    VGA
        DAC Type    Integrated RAMDAC
        Memory Size    64MB
        Memory Type    Unknown
        Video Mode    1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
        Current Refresh Rate    60Hz
        Driver Version    6.14.10.5673
        Driver Date    03/08/2004 22:29:56
Monitor    
        Name    Plug and Play Monitor
        Screen Height    768
        Screen Width    1024
        Status    OK
Local Area Connection    
        Product Name    3Com Gigabit LOM (3C940)
        Service Name    EL2000
        Manufacturer    3Com
        MAC Address    00:0C:6E:59:47:2A
NULL    
        Product Name    PANDA NDIS IM Filter Miniport
        Service Name    NETIMFLT
        Manufacturer    PandaSoftware
        MAC Address    00:0C:6E:59:47:2A
NULL    
        Product Name    PANDA NDIS IM Filter Miniport
        Service Name    NETIMFLT
        Manufacturer    PandaSoftware
        MAC Address    68:01:20:52:41:53
Sound Device    
        Name    SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio
        Manufacturer    Analog Devices, Inc.
        Status    OK
Keyboard    
        Name    Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
        Description    Enhanced (101- or 102-key)
        Function Keys    12
        Status    OK
USBController    
        Product Name    Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D2
        Manufacturer    Intel
        Protocol Supported    Universal Serial Bus
        Status    OK
USBController    
        Product Name    Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D4
        Manufacturer    Intel
        Protocol Supported    Universal Serial Bus
        Status    OK
USBController    
        Product Name    Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D7
        Manufacturer    Intel
        Protocol Supported    Universal Serial Bus
        Status    OK
USBController    
        Product Name    Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24DE
        Manufacturer    Intel
        Protocol Supported    Universal Serial Bus
        Status    OK
USBController    
        Product Name    Intel(R) 82801EB USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 24DD
        Manufacturer    Intel
        Protocol Supported    Universal Serial Bus
        Status    OK

**Nepomuk** · May 9 '08, 12:04 AM

Hi there!

I fear I can't offer a solution here, but maybe some more information. The same has been happening to my sisters computer too, even after a complete reinstall of Windows. I haven't scanned the hard drives yet, nor have I checked, if the RAM is loose, but I will as soon as possible. (Which would probably be next Wednesday.)
She too experiences these random crashes quite often when on the internet, but I don't think the two are related.
So Daniel, let's both hope that a solution is found! ^^

Greetings,
Nepomuk

**Atli** · May 9 '08, 02:06 AM

Hi.

Any decent motherboard will automatically shut-down / reboot your computer if the hardware is overheating.

Any chance that's what's going on here?

**Nepomuk** · May 9 '08, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by Atli

Hi.

Any decent motherboard will automatically shut-down / reboot your computer if the hardware is overheating.

Any chance that's what's going on here?

Hi there!
I don't know about Daniel of course, but in my (sisters) case: no. I once switched of the "automatica lly restart when a fatal error occurs"-Option (or whatever it's called) under Windows and then it showed me a bluescreen the next time it would of crashed. So the decision to restart is certainly made by Windows in this case.

Greetings,
Nepomuk

**daniel aristidou** · May 9 '08, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by nepomuk

Hi there!
I don't know about Daniel of course, but in my (sisters) case: no. I once switched of the "automatica lly restart when a fatal error occurs"-Option (or whatever it's called) under Windows and then it showed me a bluescreen the next time it would of crashed. So the decision to restart is certainly made by Windows in this case.

Greetings,
Nepomuk

Hi i think i have a hard ware error. because i have reinstalled windows, and before and after the shutdowns where the same, however they tend to become ore frequent as time goes by.

Regarding temp, the temp of my pc in bios after a random restart has occured is ~ 37 degrees Centigrade

**questionit** · May 9 '08, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by daniel aristidou

Hi i think i have a hard ware error. because i have reinstalled windows, and before and after the shutdowns where the same, however they tend to become ore frequent as time goes by.

Regarding temp, the temp of my pc in bios after a random restart has occured is ~ 37 degrees Centigrade

Is your CPU fan working.

One more thing you can check. is there any cable of (cd-drive, flopply, etc) not insulated or any connection loose?

Qi

**Atli** · May 10 '08, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by daniel aristidou

Hi i think i have a hard ware error. because i have reinstalled windows, and before and after the shutdowns where the same, however they tend to become ore frequent as time goes by.

Regarding temp, the temp of my pc in bios after a random restart has occured is ~ 37 degrees Centigrade

37°C shouldn't cause any problems. I usually don't worry until its passing 80° :P

Try disabling the auto-reboot when a blue-screen is shown. That way you can actually see what little details it provides. To do that you can:

Go to Start -> Control Panel -> System
Go to Advanced
Under the Startup and Recovery section, click Settings...
Under System Failure un-check "Automatica lly restart"

My next step would be to run a memory test.
If parts of your RAM are corrupted, Windows is likely to throw up a blue-screen and reboot.

If nothing is helping, it could be a good idea to remove any non-essential hardware, such as CD Drives, extra HDDs, RAM, PCI slots, etc...

**daniel aristidou** · May 10 '08, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Atli

My next step would be to run a memory test.
If parts of your RAM are corrupted, Windows is likely to throw up a blue-screen and reboot.

Well it did throw a reboot and show the blue screen...this is the error message detials it gave:
PFN_LIST_CORRUP T
STOP: 0X0000004E(0X00 000002,0X000010 66,0X0002FF2F,0 X00000001)

**Atli** · May 11 '08, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by daniel aristidou

Well it did throw a reboot and show the blue screen...this is the error message detials it gave:
PFN_LIST_CORRUP T
STOP: 0X0000004E(0X00 000002,0X000010 66,0X0002FF2F,0 X00000001)

Ok.
According to what I've read, this is usually caused by malfunctioning drivers.

Did you install any new hardware or driver updates around the time this started happening?

**daniel aristidou** · May 11 '08, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by Atli

Ok.
According to what I've read, this is usually caused by malfunctioning drivers.

Did you install any new hardware or driver updates around the time this started happening?

Unfortunately no........
I cannot recall installing any drivers. for ages. (couple of years) ..lol

How can i update all of the drivers?
Does anyone have an application that can make sure each driver is uptodate?

**Atli** · May 11 '08, 07:54 AM

You can have Windows verify if the drivers are working correctly by using the Driver Verifier.
This may help you find out which driver (if any) is causing your problem.

First, make sure that you can boot up in Safe Mode. If the Verifier detects an error, rebooting in Safe Mode is the only way to reset it.

To start it, simply start->Run and type 'Verifier.exe'.
Just click next until the wizard completes. Then reboot your computer.
Note, that the Verifier will load on every reboot until you disable it.

Once it has rebooted, Windows will run *normally* until it detects an error.
When it does, it should show a blue-screen containing information on the driver that caused the problem. It will probably run a bit slowly while Verifier is active.

To disable the Verifier, run the 'Verifer.exe' again and choose 'Delete existing settings' in the first window. Reboot and your system should start running normally again.

Note, that I havent tested this in a while, but I doubt it has changed any.

**Kid Programmer** · May 11 '08, 05:16 PM

Do a Virus Scan and make sure there are no programs that could be causing this.

**daniel aristidou** · May 17 '08, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Kid Programmer

Do a Virus Scan and make sure there are no programs that could be causing this.

thanks for that kid......if you read the discusion you would know that i have already done a virus scan!!

The verifier seems to of made no difference....

um does anyone think it could be my network card?

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