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  • Niheel
    Recognized Expert Moderator Top Contributor
    • Jul 2005
    • 2432

    Is your company ready for the Apple Invasion?

    The Apple invasion into corporate has started and I can't say if I am excited or scared. As an IT manager, I have nightmares over all the support and technical issues of integrating Apple hardware and software into our company. As an owner of ample Apple products, I'm excited about being able to use my iPhone and MacBooks at the company.
    For years many of us have fought to get Apple products into our company's infrastructure. Much to our dismay, the cost involved with supporting Apple products across the whole enterprise always outweighed the benefit. It didn't help that even Steve Jobs for many years held a firm stance on being a consumer oriented company.

    Things are changing. There is a whole new level of curiosity and excitement about getting Apple stamped devices ready to work with our corporate IT. There are more and more employees demanding access for their Apple hardware. Even the bosses from the top are more open. They are curious and in some cases even ready to make the changes. I'm sure their experience with other Apple products had nothing to do with it. ;-)

    Take a look at these excerpts from corporate executives and CEO's in the latest Business Week magazine article "The Mac in the Gray Flannel":
      • Anthony Decanti, Vice-president for technology Werner Enterprises ($2B in sales)
        • Werner Enterprises (WERN), a trucking company based in Omaha with $2 billion in sales, decided to start letting employees use a variety of computers a few years ago. When they began to choose Macs, the company reached out to Apple. "They all but told us to take a hike," says Anthony Decanti, vice-president for technology. But Decanti persisted, and Apple eventually sent an account rep.
      • Michele Goins, Chief Information Officer at Juniper Networks
        • "If we opened it up today, I think 25% of our employees would choose Macs," she says.
      • Scott Kriens, CEO At Sunnyvale (Calif.)-based Juniper
        • One of the people with a new Mac Book laptop. "Everybody told me I should get one," he says. "It's not anything to do with negative perceptions about Microsoft. It's just that Macs are cool."
      • Mark Slaga, Chief Information Officer of Dimension Data
        • A large computer services firm based in suburban Johannesburg, says he has received 25 e-mails recently from employees who want permission to use Macs at work.


    In a survey of 250 diverse companies that has yet to be released, the market research firm Yankee Group found that 87% now have at least some Apple computers in their offices, up from 48% two years ago.

    Companies are stepping up for their employees and starting to support Apple in the business environment. Notable ones include:
    • IBM
    • Cisco
    • Google
    Many CEO's and Leaders are already using some sort of Apple product for their professional life.
    • Dayton, Sky; CEO EarthLink Network
    • Eisner, Michael; CEO Disney Corp.
    • Gore, Al; U.S. ex Vice-President
    • Hawk, Tony; skateboarder
    • Jobs, Steve; co-founder Apple Computer
    • Lerner, Sandy; founder of Cisco Systems, Urban Decay
    • Lowe, Bill; former IBM bigwig
    • MacCready, Paul; inventor
    • Lucas, George; director/producer
    • Rao, P.V. Narashima; ex Prime Minister of India
    • Sheetrit, Meir; Minister of Justice, Israel
    • Jay-Z (Yes, HP paid me. But I use an Apple.)
    • Tigret, Isacc; founder - Hard Rock CafĂ©
    • Yeltsin, Boris; ex Soviet president
    • Larry Ellison, Chairman, CEO and Founder Oracle Corp.
    • Roy Disney, Disney Board of Directors
    There are also legions of celebrity endorsers and media darlings that support and promote the Apple Invasion to consumers (our corporate employee base in most cases).

    Another factor that could drive increased usage in coming years is the droves of college students who have known nothing but their Apple during their higher education coming into the workplace.
    According to a survey of 1,200 undergrads by researcher Student Monitor this year, 43% of college students who intend to buy a laptop plan to buy a Mac, up from 8% in 2003.

    Combine this with constant word of mouth marketing from colleagues, friends and family and there is a significant shift in usage patterns in favor of Apple in corporate environments.

    All this translates into changes for many of our corporate IT policies . We have to adapt to the demand and to be open to the idea of sharing our corporate networks and resources and even support Apple devices on our own (no in-house Genius Bar).

    The best advice given we've heard so far . . . keep an open mind and get ready to be Appleified.

    Is your company ready for the Apple Invasion? What kind of resources are you setting up to support the influx of Apple users in your company?
    niheel @ bytes
  • iam_clint
    Recognized Expert Top Contributor
    • Jul 2006
    • 1207

    #2
    Apple used to brag about its speeds.
    Apple now uses intel processors.

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    • Niheel
      Recognized Expert Moderator Top Contributor
      • Jul 2005
      • 2432

      #3
      Originally posted by iam_clint
      Apple used to brag about its speeds.
      Apple now uses intel processors.
      Previous IBM Chips are fast, look at what they are doing with Cell in the PS3.

      I think Apple was just being smart. Combine Intel branding machine with their ability to create chips for all products across the Apple line and you can have some cost efficiences. Also it allows them to focus in on the product and functionality itself.
      niheel @ bytes

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      • Anim8me2
        New Member
        • May 2008
        • 2

        #4
        Macs compete quite handily in a corporate environment. I think one of the biggest issues has been IT staff that have no real experience using them in their infrastructure.
        I recall when a company that I was an officer of (graphics content creation) merged with a tech firm (don't ask how this happened), the IT staff were terrified of us putting our Mac and SGI systems on their network. "Macs won't work on our network" was one I heard a lot. They were amazed when I just plugged it in and got on with no configuring of control panels or setting up TCP/IP stacks.
        Just recently I was comparing notes with a PC user and we had to share an Excel file, she was fascinated when I opened the file in Numbers twice as fast as she opened it in Excel, after dragging it off her USB key... "this will work on your Mac?"

        JEEZ!

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        • Anim8me2
          New Member
          • May 2008
          • 2

          #5
          On a completely unrelated note, I had the pleasure of introducing Tony Hawk to the Mac when he came in to our store to get his Amiga repaired.
          Creative Computers in Redondo was quite a happenin' place.

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          • JayVee
            New Member
            • May 2008
            • 1

            #6
            Actually, for most skilled Windows & Unix Admin's the problem with allowing a multitude of Apple devices is simple: There is no granular security policy enforcement for Mac's in a windows world.

            Domain administrators like to create domain policies that get pushed to users upon login to perform a variety of tasks, including: software installation & validation, security policy enforcement, password resets for system accounts, hardware audits and changes, network drive mappings and virus scanning.

            None of those options are readily available on Macs.

            Now, if your admin's don't want to run a scrict windows shop or you don't have the constraints of a windows network (like Exchange which still isn't supported properly by Entourage) then by all means adopt away :) Just pointing out that many windows shops or NIS unix shops have a problem integrating Mac's into their secure world of desktop and server interactions beyond the Network Shares post-login.

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            • pbmods
              Recognized Expert Expert
              • Apr 2007
              • 5821

              #7
              Heya, JayVee.

              Mac OS supports login and logout hooks, allowing admins to do exactly what you are describing:

              Mac OS X: Creating a login hook
              Last edited by pbmods; May 29 '08, 11:28 PM. Reason: Added link.

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              • speakafreaka
                New Member
                • May 2008
                • 1

                #8
                Originally posted by pbmods
                Mac OS supports login and logout hooks, allowing admins to do exactly what you are describing:
                No. Show me how to deploy active directory security profiles and applications and then it can be used in a secure environment (i.e. financial institutions etc)

                Its hard enough dealing with the multitude of user environments as it is without having to support unsecured macs too.

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                • meanskachris
                  New Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 1

                  #9
                  Just one correction Boris Yeltsin was not the ex- soviet premier but actually the first Russian Federation President who passed on the torch i believe in 2003 to President Putin.

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                  • Niheel
                    Recognized Expert Moderator Top Contributor
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 2432

                    #10
                    Here's a larger list found on google

                    Famous Mac Users

                    I'm sure there is more, but there isn't really a "CEOs who luv Apple" facebook group for us to spy into.

                    Add to the list if anyone else know of other CEOs and Executives
                    niheel @ bytes

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                    • mattfox
                      New Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 1

                      #11
                      Originally posted by speakafreaka
                      No. Show me how to deploy active directory security profiles and applications and then it can be used in a secure environment (i.e. financial institutions etc)

                      Its hard enough dealing with the multitude of user environments as it is without having to support unsecured macs too.
                      Agreed.

                      While you can do a bit to lock down a Mac that is a member of an Open Directory domain, Apple's Workgroup Manager doesn't even scratch the surface of what AD's Group Policies can do.

                      I recently installed OS X 10.5 server on an XServe that was sitting around my office (it was literally sitting in the back of a closet) and while the AD/OD integration takes some pain out of having to deal with both platforms separately, I'd really like to see some more of an equivalent to AD's GPOs instead of Apple's weak Workgroup Manager.

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                      • craveness
                        New Member
                        • May 2008
                        • 1

                        #12
                        A follow up to your post:
                        http://www.cravenet.ne t/2008/05/apple-in-enterprise-architecture.ht ml

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                        • russ960
                          New Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 1

                          #13
                          Steve jobs using a Mac?

                          Steve Jobs uses a MAC? No way. I totally thought he was using a Dell! This makes the list look lame!
                          Last edited by Niheel; Mar 30 '12, 09:29 AM. Reason: Grammer error

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                          • rifaavalon
                            New Member
                            • May 2008
                            • 1

                            #14
                            I would agree with some o the comments that the Mac isn't totally ready for the enterprise, but also at the same time, I can disagree.

                            For one I have worked in shops before were there has been a mixed bag environment on both the desktop and the server. Mostly Linux and Windows, but if Linux can play nice in an enterprise why can't the Mac? AD integration is awesome pushing GPOs are fine, but if you are relying on just Group Policy to protect your network, install software, etc, I say your lazy.

                            Am I wrong or does Thunderbird also connect to an Exchange environment? Thunderbird runs on a Mac. Mail.app is by far a better mail client than Entourage and it connects to Exchange.

                            I seem to recall that today when I was working on AD it gives you options to make it easier to connect your Mac to Exchange.

                            Least you not forget that all OS X essentially is, is UNIX wrapped in a pretty window manager.

                            Understandably a Mac can harbor a Windows bug and not know it, but Symantec even allows for an enterprise installation of their anti-virus software for the Mac.

                            I have seen alot of networks ruined because of WSUS, don't get me wrong it is useful (if setup correctly). But it isn't the end all be all for updating your Windows boxes. I agree that Patching systems is important so don't get me wrong on that.

                            Look as some one that has advocated Windows for so long I have seen the trouble it causes hence the reason I use a Mac at home! We could have this debate over and over, but look things up before you start throwing things out there!

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                            • tomtermite
                              New Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 1

                              #15
                              As an Apple developer since 1989, and on my second successful company relying on Apple (well, formerly NeXT) technologies (WebObjects, XServe, Eclipse on Leopard), I would say Apple has been ready for business. From the other comments, it seems business is not ready for Apple.

                              But if others choose to stay in the 1990s mindset, that is their choice. They are missing out on the competitive advantages the hardware and software lends.

                              In the era of cloud computing (our offering, http://www.bluedog.net/workbench is a SAAS / web 2.0 app), Apple tech and tools can help differentiate.

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