Browser survey

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

I have posted a quick survey at
<http://cfaj.freeshell. org/testing/width.shtml>.

There's only one question: select the widest line that fits
in your normal browser window.

Your assistance is appreciated.

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[Andrew Heenan]

Re: Browser survey

"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohnson@gma il.comwrote ...

I have posted a quick survey at
<http://cfaj.freeshell. org/testing/width.shtml>.
There's only one question: select the widest line that fits
in your normal browser window.

Nice idea ... a one man campaign to banish the horizontal scroll?

Do let ut have the 'final' results,

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[Lars Eighner]

Re: Browser survey

In our last episode, <4963e$4865ce2d $cef88ba3$11599 @TEKSAVVY.COM>, the
lovely and talented Chris F.A. Johnson broadcast on
comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html:

I have posted a quick survey at
<http://cfaj.freeshell. org/testing/width.shtml>.

There's only one question: select the widest line that fits
in your normal browser window.

Your assistance is appreciated.

Gee, they all fit in Lynx, and you could keep on until you reached
70-something digit numbers.


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[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Re: Browser survey

In alt.html, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:

I have posted a quick survey at
<http://cfaj.freeshell. org/testing/width.shtml>.
>
There's only one question: select the widest line that fits
in your normal browser window.
>
Your assistance is appreciated.

63

Nice idea...

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[Travis Newbury]

Re: Browser survey

On Jun 28, 1:37 am, "Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohn...@gma il.comwrote:

         I have posted a quick survey at

104

But if you are trying to get a "reading" for the general populous,
then this group is hardly a good sample.

[Rob Waaijenberg]

Re: Browser survey

Beauregard T. Shagnasty schreef:

In alt.html, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>

> I have posted a quick survey at
> <http://cfaj.freeshell. org/testing/width.shtml>.
>>
> There's only one question: select the widest line that fits
> in your normal browser window.
>>
> Your assistance is appreciated.

>
63
>
Nice idea...
>

78

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[Sherman Pendley]

Re: Browser survey

"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohnson@gma il.comwrites:

There's only one question: select the widest line that fits
in your normal browser window.

Why would I want to participate in a survey that does nothing but
propogate the myth that screen size should matter to HTML authors?

There is no "normal" browser window. Deal with it.

sherm--

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[Travis Newbury]

Re: Browser survey

On Jun 28, 10:29 am, Sherman Pendley <spamt...@dot-app.orgwrote:

Why would I want to participate in a survey that does nothing but
propogate the myth that screen size should matter to HTML authors?

Oh ye of such little faith. Maybe the survey will prove your point
that there is no "standard size" and that the browser window size is
so random that it is meaningless to try to code for it.

There is no "normal" browser window. Deal with it.

And if you participate in the survey I believe you may help to prove
that once and for all. Or are you afraid to participate because the
results might show there are some "normal" sizes and you might be
wrong?

[Guy Macon]

Re: Browser survey




How is this survey different from / better than these?

http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/11/23/screen-resolutions-and-better-user-experience/

http://www.baekdal.com/reports/actual-browser-sizes/

[Neredbojias]

Re: Browser survey

On 28 Jun 2008, Rob Waaijenberg <robwaaijenberg @hotmail.comwro te:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty schreef:

>In alt.html, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>>

>> I have posted a quick survey at
>> <http://cfaj.freeshell. org/testing/width.shtml>.
>>>
>> There's only one question: select the widest line that fits
>> in your normal browser window.
>>>
>> Your assistance is appreciated.

>>
>63
>>
>Nice idea...
>>

>
78

Ditto. Hey, maybe it's an omen. Like we should go into business together:
Waaijenberg and Neredbojias Widgets, Inc. Kinda catchy.

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[Sherman Pendley]

Re: Browser survey

Travis Newbury <TravisNewbury@ hotmail.comwrit es:

Or are you afraid to participate because the
results might show there are some "normal" sizes and you might be
wrong?

This is the part where I'm supposed to let you push my buttons, and go
take your survey to show I'm not afraid of the results, right?

Sorry bub, I'm not that stupid.

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[Travis Newbury]

Re: Browser survey

On Jun 28, 12:12 pm, Sherman Pendley <spamt...@dot-app.orgwrote:

This is the part where I'm supposed to let you push my buttons, and go
take your survey to show I'm not afraid of the results, right?

First, it's not my survey, second I really don't care what you do.

Sorry bub, I'm not that stupid.

I don't know you so I really can't make that call

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

Re: Browser survey

On 2008-06-28, Sherman Pendley wrote:

"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohnson@gma il.comwrites:
>

> There's only one question: select the widest line that fits
> in your normal browser window.

>
Why would I want to participate in a survey that does nothing but
propogate the myth that screen size should matter to HTML authors?

This is not measuring screen size or window size. It is measuring
the width of browser windows in ems. The screen or window size in
pixels is irrelevant, as is the user's font size.

While a good page may suffer somewhat when extreme sizes are used,
and should degrade gracefully when they are, pages may be
optimized for a certain range. The purpose of this survey is to
determine how wide this range should be.

In practice, I don;t think this information will make a
significant difference to the way my pages are coded.

There is no "normal" browser window. Deal with it.

Agreed; and I am dealing with it.

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[Jerry Stuckle]

Re: Browser survey

Travis Newbury wrote:

On Jun 28, 10:29 am, Sherman Pendley <spamt...@dot-app.orgwrote:

>Why would I want to participate in a survey that does nothing but
>propogate the myth that screen size should matter to HTML authors?

>
Oh ye of such little faith. Maybe the survey will prove your point
that there is no "standard size" and that the browser window size is
so random that it is meaningless to try to code for it.
>

>There is no "normal" browser window. Deal with it.

>
And if you participate in the survey I believe you may help to prove
that once and for all. Or are you afraid to participate because the
results might show there are some "normal" sizes and you might be
wrong?
>
>

Not at all. Such a survey is pointless. Those who have been around for
a while have learned that. Newbies need to be taught it over and over
again.

Design the page correctly and the content adjusts itself to any window
size within reason.

I'm not afraid to participate. It's just now worth my time. But you
are tacky and manipulative for even suggesting such a thing.

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[Chris F.A. Johnson]

Re: Browser survey

On 2008-06-28, Andrew Heenan wrote:

"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohnson@gma il.comwrote ...

> I have posted a quick survey at
> <http://cfaj.freeshell. org/testing/width.shtml>.
> There's only one question: select the widest line that fits
> in your normal browser window.

>
Nice idea ... a one man campaign to banish the horizontal scroll?

Nope. To eliminate horizontal scroll, you do not specify any
widths.

This is to get a better idea of what the typical viewer will see.

For example, I am designing a page with three columns of text. In
my typical window, the columns are narrower than I like. They are
still very readable, but I prefer to have more text. If I find
that most people will see even less than I do, I may rethink the
page; if the majority see more than I do, I'll leave it.

Do let ut have the 'final' results,

There is a running total at
<http://cfaj.freeshell. org/testing/width.cgi>.

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