Python and Flaming Thunder

[Dave Parker]

I've read that one of the design goals of Python was to create an easy-
to-use English-like language. That's also one of the design goals of
Flaming Thunder at http://www.flamingthunder.com/ , which has proven
easy enough for even elementary school students, even though it is
designed for scientists, mathematicians and engineers.

[castironpi@gmail.com]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

On May 12, 6:39 pm, Dave Parker <davepar...@fla mingthunder.com wrote:

I've read that one of the design goals of Python was to create an easy-
to-use English-like language.  That's also one of the design goals of
Flaming Thunder athttp://www.flamingthun der.com/ , which has proven
easy enough for even elementary school students, even though it is
designed for scientists, mathematicians and engineers.

Can you render some furniture for me... to try to see some human
posture to lowest energy levels.

[Dave Parker]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

On May 12, 6:32 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:

Can you render some furniture for me... to try to see some human
posture to lowest energy levels.

Not yet; Flaming Thunder doesn't have built-in graphics yet. But
we're incorporating the graphics from www.dpgraph.com , so when that's
finished, then yes Flaming Thunder will be able to render furniture
and calculate energy levels.

If I remember correctly, I think that NASA did some experiments many
years ago on human posture and found that laying back (like the
astronauts do at takeoff) minimized stress on the human body due to
high g-forces.

[Dave Parker]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

On May 12, 6:32 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:

Can you render some furniture for me... to try to see some human
posture to lowest energy levels.

I couldn't find any furniture created using DPGraph, but the math art
gallery at http://www.dpgraph.com/math-art.html has a sailboat, an
F15, Tux (the Linux penguin), a lampshade, and lots of other things
that will soon be doable in Flaming Thunder.

[castironpi@gmail.com]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

On May 12, 7:59 pm, Dave Parker <davepar...@fla mingthunder.com wrote:

On May 12, 6:32 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:
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Can you render some furniture for me... to try to see some human
posture to lowest energy levels.

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I couldn't find any furniture created using DPGraph, but the math art
gallery athttp://www.dpgraph.com/math-art.htmlhas a sailboat, an
F15, Tux (the Linux penguin), a lampshade, and lots of other things
that will soon be doable in Flaming Thunder.

Mine's been always messing up the color wheel. Do you see anything
analytic* / theoretically necessary / a priori / physical / physically
induced about that?

*Now that's a word from Philosophy Syntax--- pertaining to inherent
definitions of words, any and all.

[Dave Parker]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

On May 12, 7:12 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:

Mine's been always messing up the color wheel.

Messing up in what way? Are you using the colors to visualize
something?

[castironpi@gmail.com]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

On May 12, 8:18 pm, Dave Parker <davepar...@fla mingthunder.com wrote:

On May 12, 7:12 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:
>

Mine's been always messing up the color wheel.

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Messing up in what way?  Are you using the colors to visualize
something?

In a manner of speaking. I'm a first-time-live Information scientist,
just out of work. LIS at school and plenty of computer study, which
is fine. Yes, I am trying to visualize something.

[Dave Parker]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

On May 12, 7:20 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:

> Yes, I am trying to visualize something.

If it is related to making furniture comfortable for humans, have you
considered painting the furniture with thermochromic paint (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermochromism )? It changes color in
response to temperature, which in part is determined by how hard a
body is pressed against it because close contact tends to trap heat.
An evenly distributed color might indicated evenly distributed
pressure.

[castironpi@gmail.com]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

On May 12, 8:36 pm, Dave Parker <davepar...@fla mingthunder.com wrote:

On May 12, 7:20 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:
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 Yes, I am trying to visualize something.

>
If it is related to making furniture comfortable for humans, have you
considered painting the furniture with thermochromic paint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermochromism)?  It changes color in
response to temperature, which in part is determined by how hard a
body is pressed against it because close contact tends to trap heat.
An evenly distributed color might indicated evenly distributed
pressure.

I do hold an argument that one can make too much money for one's own
good quality of life. Am I trying to visualize thermal (and ergo
possibly chemical too) gradients (thermovoltaic) ? Yes in part. I'm
pretty generally interested, but where can print layout take you?
Microsales?

[Diez B. Roggisch]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

Dave Parker wrote:

On May 12, 7:20 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:

>>Yes, I am trying to visualize something.

>
If it is related to making furniture comfortable for humans, have you
considered painting the furniture with thermochromic paint (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermochromism )? It changes color in
response to temperature, which in part is determined by how hard a
body is pressed against it because close contact tends to trap heat.
An evenly distributed color might indicated evenly distributed
pressure.

Don't let yourself be irritated by castironpi - he's the virtual equivalent
of a mumbling mad man in this group. Ignorance serves best as remedy - and
getting a filter to work, as I did (so I only see his postings being
quoted... a huge relief!)

Diez

[castironpi@gmail.com]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

On May 13, 4:18 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <de...@nospam.w eb.dewrote:

Dave Parker wrote:

On May 12, 7:20 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:

>Yes, I am trying to visualize something.

>

If it is related to making furniture comfortable for humans, have you
considered painting the furniture with thermochromic paint (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermochromism)?  It changes color in
response to temperature, which in part is determined by how hard a
body is pressed against it because close contact tends to trap heat.
An evenly distributed color might indicated evenly distributed
pressure.

>
Don't let yourself be irritated by castironpi - he's the virtual equivalent
of a mumbling mad man in this group. Ignorance serves best as remedy - and
getting a filter to work, as I did (so I only see his postings being
quoted... a huge relief!)
>
Diez

I hate to ignore work. Who is the non-virtual equivalent mumble?

[castironpi@gmail.com]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

On May 13, 4:52 am, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:

On May 13, 4:18 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <de...@nospam.w eb.dewrote:
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Dave Parker wrote:

On May 12, 7:20 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:
>>Yes, I am trying to visualize something.

>

If it is related to making furniture comfortable for humans, have you
considered painting the furniture with thermochromic paint (
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermochromism)? It changes color in
response to temperature, which in part is determined by how hard a
body is pressed against it because close contact tends to trap heat.
An evenly distributed color might indicated evenly distributed
pressure.

>

Don't let yourself be irritated by castironpi - he's the virtual equivalent
of a mumbling mad man in this group. Ignorance serves best as remedy - and
I only see his postings being
quoted... a huge relief!)

>

Diez

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I hate to ignore work.  Who is the non-virtual equivalent mumble?- Hide quoted text -

However, that's just the sunrise I would be talking about. How are
the soft drinks here? Does anyone else have a t.v.? I don't like
mine or have one.

[Dave Parker]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

On May 12, 11:52 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:

I do hold an argument that one can make too much money for one's own
good quality of life.

As do I; I think there is an optimal amount. Too little, and you
waste time gathering food. Too much, and you waste time gathering
money.

Am I trying to visualize thermal (and ergo
possibly chemical too) gradients (thermovoltaic) ?  Yes in part.

Some of those DPGraph (and soon, Flaming Thunder) may be able to help
with.

I'm pretty generally interested, but where can print layout take you?

Not far, especially with books disappearing. Our library says that
these days, only 25% of their checkouts are books; the other 75% are
DVDs, CDs, etc.

Microsales?

And getting microer every day.

[Dave Parker]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

Don't let yourself be irritated by castironpi

I'm not the sort to get irritated by anyone. There is value in all
interaction. Flaming Thunder is itself the averaging of interactions
with many computer languages and conversations with many people, so as
to create a language that allows people to tell a computer what they
want it to do, without having to know very much about how the computer
does it.

On May 13, 3:18 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <de...@nospam.w eb.dewrote:

Dave Parker wrote:

On May 12, 7:20 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:

>Yes, I am trying to visualize something.

>

If it is related to making furniture comfortable for humans, have you
considered painting the furniture with thermochromic paint (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermochromism)?  It changes color in
response to temperature, which in part is determined by how hard a
body is pressed against it because close contact tends to trap heat.
An evenly distributed color might indicated evenly distributed
pressure.

>
Don't let yourself be irritated by castironpi - he's the virtual equivalent
of a mumbling mad man in this group. Ignorance serves best as remedy - and
getting a filter to work, as I did (so I only see his postings being
quoted... a huge relief!)
>
Diez

[castironpi@gmail.com]

Re: Python and Flaming Thunder

On May 13, 8:32 am, Dave Parker <davepar...@fla mingthunder.com wrote:

Don't let yourself be irritated by castironpi

>
I'm not the sort to get irritated by anyone.  There is value in all
interaction.  Flaming Thunder is itself the averaging of interactions
with many computer languages and conversations with many people, so as
to create a language that allows people to tell a computer what they
want it to do, without having to know very much about how the computer
does it.
>
On May 13, 3:18 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <de...@nospam.w eb.dewrote:
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Dave Parker wrote:

On May 12, 7:20 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:
>>Yes, I am trying to visualize something.

>

If it is related to making furniture comfortable for humans, have you
considered painting the furniture with thermochromic paint (
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermochromism)? It changes color in
response to temperature, which in part is determined by how hard a
body is pressed against it because close contact tends to trap heat.
An evenly distributed color might indicated evenly distributed
pressure.

>

Don't let yourself be irritated by castironpi - he's the virtual equivalent
of a mumbling mad man in this group. Ignorance serves best as remedy - and
getting a filter to work, as I did (so I only see his postings being
quoted... a huge relief!)

>

Diez- Hide quoted text -

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I got hung-up on your sailboat and it took me to coffee. But I return
empty-handed, and castironpi does not bother me. All I try to do in
life is write video games. I am not convinced that the colorspace
occupies three dimensions necessarily. But I do like sailboats and
furniture.

I am into city planning, roadways, infrastructure, but don't work -
too- hard. Furniture can be pretty stock and utility on the micro
level--- there's just been runs on the banks before to microize to
certain energy/mass/volume/metabolism levels. People like stuff and
pull.

If I can get a word in, I also like to distribute economy, and
microize currency. So long as currency stays current, nobody minds.
Do you need something done... or said?