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  • Michael Fesser

    #61
    Re: Session or browser problem??

    ..oO(JamesCX DiPietro)
    >There are 6 possible combinations of posting styles
    There are _a lot_ more. Posting style is not only about quoting. In some
    other groups it's also about the posting name, the use of emoticons and
    many more things.
    >all of which you'll
    >see preferred by various users on this group and Usenet. You would be
    >hard-pressed to call this any kind of standard or universal preference.
    If you would know a bit more about Usenet, then you would see that every
    hierarchy, often every single group has its own rules and conventions,
    like any society. These rules are made by the regulars and often have
    evolved over the years.

    And it doesn't really matter what the single average user prefers. What
    matters are the group's regulars, because they are the ones who spend
    their own time to help others voluntarily and keep the group alive.

    Remember: You should never bite the hand that feeds you.

    EOT for me
    Micha

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    • JamesCX DiPietro

      #62
      Re: Session or browser problem??

      You're missing the point. The folks in this newsgroup have used and favored varied posting styles for years. You're way too late to try to change that. What you're actually looking for is a moderated newsgroup which c.l.p. is not.

      --
      JamesCX DiPietro (cdgzone at gmail.com)

      Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de wrote:
      .oO(JamesCX DiPietro)
      >
      >>There are 6 possible combinations of posting styles
      >
      There are _a lot_ more. Posting style is not only about quoting. In some
      other groups it's also about the posting name, the use of emoticons and
      many more things.
      >
      >>all of which you'll
      >>see preferred by various users on this group and Usenet. You would be
      >>hard-pressed to call this any kind of standard or universal preference.
      >
      If you would know a bit more about Usenet, then you would see that every
      hierarchy, often every single group has its own rules and conventions,
      like any society. These rules are made by the regulars and often have
      evolved over the years.
      >
      And it doesn't really matter what the single average user prefers. What
      matters are the group's regulars, because they are the ones who spend
      their own time to help others voluntarily and keep the group alive.
      >
      Remember: You should never bite the hand that feeds you.
      >
      EOT for me
      Micha

      Comment

      • Michael Fesser

        #63
        Re: Session or browser problem??

        ..oO(JamesCX DiPietro)
        >You're missing the point. The folks in this newsgroup have used and
        >favored varied posting styles for years. You're way too late to try to
        >change that. What you're actually looking for is a moderated newsgroup
        >which c.l.p. is not.
        I don't think you're in the position to make such claims. Have you ever
        contributed to this group in any kind except for your 9 OT postings in
        this thread?

        EOT, Fup2 poster
        Micha

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        • JamesCX DiPietro

          #64
          Re: Session or browser problem??

          Just read the newsgroup's charter for once. Varied posting styles are allowed. Your incessant trolling is not.

          --
          JamesCX DiPietro (cdgzone at gmail.com)

          Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attg lobal.netwrote:
          JamesCX DiPietro wrote:
          >Top posting is preferable in many instances. However, the top posting vs. bottom posting debate is as old as Usenet itself and to this day continues to incite religious wars with each side claiming ultimate supremacy. A better question is why is this debate taking place in a php group?
          >>
          >
          Simple. Because some people refuse to follow established standards for
          this newsgroup.
          >

          Comment

          • Jerry Stuckle

            #65
            Re: Session or browser problem??

            Rik Wasmus wrote:
            On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:31:56 +0100, JamesCX DiPietro
            <ibraxa29@cdgzo ne.comwrote:
            >Stuckle is an old hand at the troll business. You may as well add him
            >to your killfile.
            >
            Just a few remarkt before I set this whole offtopic thread to ignore:
            - There certainly is a non-binding, not enforced, though highly
            preferred way of posting in this group.
            - I think it's quite quaint a M. DiPietro en M. (Mrs/Ms, seems 'Jackie'
            can be either) accuse one of the most regular on-topic posters with some
            real knowledge of trolling. I confess I haven't search religiously, but
            I can't find a truly usefull on topic post in this group from either of
            those two.
            - I totally agree with Jerry, but I'm more of a pessimist: I'll ask once
            or twice nicely, and then quietly ignore those who still refuse to make
            it easier for the reader to help them with their problems. I just don't
            feel the need to announce that publicly. Jerry on the other hand still
            believes those people can be persuaded (well, yeah, and has a little
            issue about being right, and acknowledged, then again, he usually _is_
            right).
            >
            So far from me, thread on ignore including some top-posters, I wish you
            all a happy, albeit useless, discussion without end.
            Rik,

            I've given up on the troll. You can lead a horticulture, but you can't
            make her think.

            --
            =============== ===
            Remove the "x" from my email address
            Jerry Stuckle
            JDS Computer Training Corp.
            jstucklex@attgl obal.net
            =============== ===

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            • Michael Fesser

              #66
              Re: Session or browser problem??

              ..oO(JamesCX DiPietro)
              >Just read the newsgroup's charter for once. Varied posting styles are
              >allowed. Your incessant trolling is not.
              You want to read the charter again or post the parts that you think
              support your claim.

              Micha

              Comment

              • JamesCX DiPietro

                #67
                Re: Session or browser problem??

                Here are some of your recent posts. Do you honestly think arguing with Stuckle about your Usenet headers is a good example of staying on topic? I'm not surprised he's involved in that one as well.




                --
                JamesCX DiPietro (cdgzone at gmail.com)


                Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de wrote:
                .oO(JamesCX DiPietro)
                >
                >>You're missing the point. The folks in this newsgroup have used and
                >>favored varied posting styles for years. You're way too late to try to
                >>change that. What you're actually looking for is a moderated newsgroup
                >>which c.l.p. is not.
                >
                I don't think you're in the position to make such claims. Have you ever
                contributed to this group in any kind except for your 9 OT postings in
                this thread?
                >
                EOT, Fup2 poster
                Micha

                Comment

                • JamesCX DiPietro

                  #68
                  Re: Session or browser problem??

                  The charter is perfectly clear. You should read it and understand it before you try arguing against it.

                  For folks like Fesser who are too lazy to look it up, here it is:

                  RESULT
                  unmoderated group comp.lang.php passes 177:11

                  There were 177 YES votes and 11 NO votes, for a total of 188 valid votes.
                  There were 2 abstains and 11 invalid ballots.

                  For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
                  votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

                  There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
                  serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
                  news.announce.n ewgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

                  Newsgroups line:
                  comp.lang.php PHP, server side scripting.

                  Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 30 Jun 2002.

                  [ Votetaker remarks: This was a re-vote. The first vote was cancelled due
                  to the distribution of pre-marked ballots. ]

                  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the
                  proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

                  Proponent: Ian Fette <ife...@comcast .net>
                  Votetaker: David E. Smith <d...@technopag an.org>

                  RATIONALE: comp.lang.php

                  An alt.php newsgroup currently exists and is well used, and there is also
                  an alt.comp.lang.p hp group in existence. Not all servers carry alt.*
                  newsgroups, however, essentially splitting the PHP Usenet community.
                  Almost all news servers carry the comp.lang.* groups, which would make the
                  group more accessible to users, in addition to unifying the two "Usenet
                  PHP factions." Furthermore, every respected programming language has a
                  group under comp.lang.*. PHP has matured into a respected (and powerful)
                  language widely in use. As such, a group in the comp.lang.* hierarchy
                  seems appropriate at this time. Finally, posts in comp.lang.* groups are
                  retained longer than posts in alt.* groups on many servers, another reason
                  that a switch to a comp.lang.* group would benefit the PHP community.

                  CHARTER: comp.lang.php

                  comp.lang.php is intended to be a global forum for the discussion of
                  issues involving PHP. The ultimate goal is to create a relaxed yet helpful
                  environment in which people can seek answers to general questions about
                  PHP, specific questions regarding specific PHP functions or code snippets,
                  or topical questions.

                  The posting of binaries is generally frowned upon. When posting a specific
                  question about a piece of code or a function that you are having a problem
                  with, please include in your post a section of code as small as possible
                  that illustrates the problem you are having.

                  A group alt.php.sql also currently exists, but is less frequently used
                  than alt.php. Since database connectivity is a large part of PHP, it will
                  be considered topical in comp.lang.php. A comp.lang.php.s ql is not deemed
                  necessary at the current point in time, however may be proposed at a later
                  point should the need arise.

                  END CHARTER.

                  DISTRIBUTION:

                  Pointers directing readers to this CFV were posted in the following groups:

                  de.comp.lang.ph p
                  fr.comp.lang.ph p

                  comp.lang.php Final Vote Ack

                  NOTE: This is not [to be used as] a mailing list. The email addresses
                  are posted only to help verify the interest poll. Thank you. The "real"
                  vote list can be recovered by piping the list below through sed s/~/@/g .

                  comp.lang.php Final Vote Ack

                  Voted Yes
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                  Voted No
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                  vpdura~hiwaay.n et Vic Dura

                  Abstained
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                  jmprice~calweb. com John M. Price, PhD
                  svalbardifast~h ome.se Kent Persson

                  Votes in error
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                  ArtKamlet~aol.R EMOVE.com Arthur Kamlet
                  ! Ack bounced
                  cmosser~attbi.c om Christopher M Mosser
                  ! Ack bounced
                  help~dvdseason. com DVDSeason
                  ! No ballot
                  news~beyond.xs4 all.nl beyond
                  ! Invalid address
                  not~here.com Wayne
                  ! Invalid address
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                  ! Ack bounced
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                  ! No vote statement in message
                  root~linkadmin. org Xavier Spriet
                  ! Invalid address
                  root~mauve.demo n.co.uk Ian Stirling
                  ! Invalid address
                  say1~tikauka.cs .waikato.ac.nz Stuart A Yeates
                  ! Ack bounced
                  usenet~7d.com
                  ! Invalid address

                  <http://groups.google.c om/group/news.groups/msg/7b08fc4a80f4f51 c>

                  --
                  JamesCX DiPietro (cdgzone at gmail.com)


                  Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de wrote:
                  .oO(JamesCX DiPietro)
                  >
                  >>Just read the newsgroup's charter for once. Varied posting styles are
                  >>allowed. Your incessant trolling is not.
                  >
                  You want to read the charter again or post the parts that you think
                  support your claim.
                  >
                  Micha

                  Comment

                  • Jackie Silva

                    #69
                    Re: Session or browser problem??

                    your name is at the bottom of every post you make and is your signature. you
                    don't even know what means i guess. read the usenet signature convention
                    rfc.

                    "Michael Fesser" <netizen@gmx.de wrote in message
                    news:97lhi3pn8b q1mkorake41e0h2 pe7sb7678@4ax.c om...
                    .oO(Jackie Silva)
                    >
                    >>your sig is broken.
                    >
                    You can't tell because I don't have a sig. If I would, it would be
                    _below_ my name, because my short name and sometimes some greetings
                    are part of my messages.
                    >
                    >>and your assumption that this flamefest and your
                    >>contributio n to it helps anyone is seriously misguided.
                    >
                    It helps to learn more about people like you.
                    >
                    Micha

                    Comment

                    • Michael Fesser

                      #70
                      Re: Session or browser problem??

                      ..oO(JamesCX DiPietro)
                      >The charter is perfectly clear. You should read it and understand it
                      >before you try arguing against it.
                      >
                      >For folks like Fesser who are too lazy to look it up, here it is:
                      I also have a first name.
                      >RESULT
                      unmoderated group comp.lang.php passes 177:11
                      Sweety, I asked for the _charter_, not the entire CFV result. Too lazy
                      to trim a post? Let me do it for you. Stripped to the relevant part:
                      >CHARTER: comp.lang.php
                      >[...]
                      >The posting of binaries is generally frowned upon. When posting a specific
                      >question about a piece of code or a function that you are having a problem
                      >with, please include in your post a section of code as small as possible
                      >that illustrates the problem you are having.
                      >[...]
                      >END CHARTER.
                      Now where does it talk about posting style or trolling?
                      Nowhere.

                      Now please stop that.

                      OT, Fup2 poster
                      Micha

                      Comment

                      • Michael Fesser

                        #71
                        Re: Session or browser problem??

                        ..oO(Jackie Silva)
                        >your name is at the bottom of every post you make and is your signature. you
                        >don't even know what means i guess. read the usenet signature convention
                        >rfc.
                        You want to show me that RFC and the part where it defines what the
                        content of a sig should be.

                        Where I come from, the introduction line, any greetings and the name
                        belong to the message, it's like a frame around it (and not just in
                        Usenet postings, but in every letter). The sig is just an appendix with
                        arbitrary content (like in this case). Often it's seen as kind of a
                        business card for example. You can use it, but you don't have to.

                        At least my sig is ontopic ...

                        Micha

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                        Comment

                        • JamesCX DiPietro

                          #72
                          Re: Session or browser problem??

                          What you posted is incomplete. Read the actual charter in its entirety.

                          Interestingly, you've unintenionally provided a good example of how interleaved posting can make things less clear when you do it in a sloppy manner.

                          --
                          JamesCX DiPietro (cdgzone at gmail.com)

                          Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de wrote:
                          .oO(JamesCX DiPietro)
                          >
                          >>The charter is perfectly clear. You should read it and understand it
                          >>before you try arguing against it.
                          >>
                          >>For folks like Fesser who are too lazy to look it up, here it is:
                          >
                          I also have a first name.
                          >
                          >>RESULT
                          > unmoderated group comp.lang.php passes 177:11
                          >
                          Sweety, I asked for the _charter_, not the entire CFV result. Too lazy
                          to trim a post? Let me do it for you. Stripped to the relevant part:
                          >
                          >>CHARTER: comp.lang.php
                          >>[...]
                          >>The posting of binaries is generally frowned upon. When posting a specific
                          >>question about a piece of code or a function that you are having a problem
                          >>with, please include in your post a section of code as small as possible
                          >>that illustrates the problem you are having.
                          >>[...]
                          >>END CHARTER.
                          >
                          Now where does it talk about posting style or trolling?
                          Nowhere.
                          >
                          Now please stop that.
                          >
                          OT, Fup2 poster
                          Micha

                          Comment

                          • Jackie Silva

                            #73
                            Re: Session or browser problem??

                            You want to show me that RFC and the part where it defines what the
                            content of a sig should be.
                            are you too lazy to even google it? it's the first hit!! lol

                            i see you now have fixed your sig. good job.

                            "Michael Fesser" <netizen@gmx.de wrote in message
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                            .oO(Jackie Silva)
                            >
                            >>your name is at the bottom of every post you make and is your signature.
                            >>you
                            >>don't even know what means i guess. read the usenet signature convention
                            >>rfc.
                            >
                            You want to show me that RFC and the part where it defines what the
                            content of a sig should be.
                            >
                            Where I come from, the introduction line, any greetings and the name
                            belong to the message, it's like a frame around it (and not just in
                            Usenet postings, but in every letter). The sig is just an appendix with
                            arbitrary content (like in this case). Often it's seen as kind of a
                            business card for example. You can use it, but you don't have to.
                            >
                            At least my sig is ontopic ...
                            >
                            Micha
                            >
                            --
                            <pre><?php
                            $c=0;for($y=1.2 ;$y>-1.3;$y-=0.1){for($x=-2.08;$x<.92;$x+ =.04){$r=
                            $n=0;for($h=127 ;$r*$r+$n*$n<4& &--$h>32;){$d=$r;$ r=$r*$r-$n*$n+$x;$n=2*$ d*$n+
                            $y;}($x>0.98)?p rint chr(10):print
                            chr($h);if(++$c %75==0)print"\n ";}}?></pre>

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                            • Jackie Silva

                              #74
                              Re: Session or browser problem??

                              everyone - it looks like stuckle has announced he's giving up trolling!
                              hurrah!

                              does your post mean you are taking up gardening as a hobby instead?

                              "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attg lobal.netwrote in message
                              news:69WdnfZqgY EwbrXanZ2dnUVZ_ rHinZ2d@comcast .com...
                              I've given up on the troll. You can lead a horticulture, but you can't
                              make her think.
                              >
                              --
                              =============== ===
                              Remove the "x" from my email address
                              Jerry Stuckle
                              JDS Computer Training Corp.
                              jstucklex@attgl obal.net
                              =============== ===
                              >

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                              • Michael Fesser

                                #75
                                Re: Session or browser problem??

                                ..oO(JamesCX DiPietro)
                                >What you posted is incomplete. Read the actual charter in its entirety.
                                The other parts were irrelevant to the issue. But since you asked for
                                it:
                                >comp.lang.ph p is intended to be a global forum for the discussion of
                                >issues involving PHP. The ultimate goal is to create a relaxed yet helpful
                                >environment in which people can seek answers to general questions about
                                >PHP, specific questions regarding specific PHP functions or code snippets,
                                >or topical questions.
                                >
                                >The posting of binaries is generally frowned upon. When posting a specific
                                >question about a piece of code or a function that you are having a problem
                                >with, please include in your post a section of code as small as possible
                                >that illustrates the problem you are having.
                                >
                                >A group alt.php.sql also currently exists, but is less frequently used
                                >than alt.php. Since database connectivity is a large part of PHP, it will
                                >be considered topical in comp.lang.php. A comp.lang.php.s ql is not deemed
                                >necessary at the current point in time, however may be proposed at a later
                                >point should the need arise.
                                To repeat my question: Where does it talk about posting style or
                                trolling?

                                Micha

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