Session or browser problem??

[Michael Fesser]

Re: Session or browser problem??

..oO(Jackie Silva)

>what kind of reading problems are you having?

None anymore. I don't have to read you.

If you offend the regulars in a newsgroup, you shouldn't expect much
help if you should ever need it. We want nothing from you - you want
something from us.

Micha

[Jerry Stuckle]

Re: Session or browser problem??

Shelly wrote:

Rik Wasmus wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:09:26 +0100, Jeff Gaines
><jgaines_newsi d@yahoo.co.ukwr ote:
>>

>>On 31/10/2007 in message <13ig9nsqr2ak39 d@news.supernew s.comJackie
>>Silva wrote:
>>>--Jackie S
>>There's also a standard for signature separators, you don't meet that
>>either.

>Actually, by the grace of his broken sig seperator I can still easily
>quote his quotes. If it wouldn't be for that I'd have to jump through
>some hoops, as his whole quote qould be considered one big signature
>:)

>
Rik, I tried doing the "right" sig for a while but it didn't do work. I'll
do it now and tell me if it works.
>

Looks good here, Shelly.

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[Jerry Stuckle]

Re: Session or browser problem??

Jackie Silva wrote:

"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attg lobal.netwrote in message
news:apKdndXjGe YPKbXanZ2dnUVZ_ hmtnZ2d@comcast .com...

>Jackie Silva wrote:

>>"Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid @yahoo.co.ukwro te in message
>>news:xn0fd3ig c2joqxj000@news .individual.net ...
>>>On 31/10/2007 in message <13ig9nsqr2ak39 d@news.supernew s.comJackie
>>>Silva wrote:
>>>>
>>>>there is no "standard" posting style as long as it's clear and
>>>>understanda ble! top-posting is fine. bottom-posting is good too. it's a
>>>>matter of individual preference.... your whining is way off-topic. this
>>>>has nothing to do with the OP's question.
>>>It would be more accurate to say that relative newcomers are unaware of
>>>the conventions, or the reasons for them.
>>>>
>>>Try a Google for 'netiquette'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--Jackie S
>>>There's also a standard for signature separators, you don't meet that
>>>either.
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK
>>>This is as bad as it can get, but don't bet on it
>>>
>>there are multiple posting conventions used on usenet. read up:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
>>>
>>your arguments against one posting style are based on the original

>techical

>>limitations of usenet.
>>>

>(Top posting fixed)
>>
>No, my arguments are based on the STANDARDS OF THIS GROUP.
>>
>And idiots who refuse to follow standards don't get many responses in this
>group.
>>
>Your arguments for top posting are based on being too lazy to scroll to
>the bottom of the page before you start posting.
>>
>A. Because they're arrogant jerks.
>Q. Why do they continue doing it?
>A. Because it upsets the normal flow of the conversation.
>Q. Why is top posting bad?
>A. People who top post.
>Q. Why are the most annoying people on usenet?
>>
>>

why do you insist on misquoting people when you respond?
>

(Top posting fixed)

And exactly where did I misquote you? My quotes of you are *exactly* as
entered.

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[Jerry Stuckle]

Re: Session or browser problem??

JamesCX DiPietro wrote:

Top posting is preferable in many instances. However, the top posting vs. bottom posting debate is as old as Usenet itself and to this day continues to incite religious wars with each side claiming ultimate supremacy. A better question is why is this debate taking place in a php group?
>

Simple. Because some people refuse to follow established standards for
this newsgroup.

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[Jackie Silva]

Re: Session or browser problem??

bottom-posters often quote everything.

"Rik Wasmus" <luiheidsgoeroe @hotmail.comwro te in message
news:op.t02qzal i5bnjuv@metalli um.lan...

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:14:00 +0100, Jackie Silva <maritanlito@ya hoo.com>
Quoting everything is almost as bad is no quote at all

[Jerry Stuckle]

Re: Session or browser problem??

JamesCX DiPietro wrote:

Jerry, you don't speak for this newsgroup. I'm not surprised you've trashed another thread with one of your off-topic flamefests. It's a fruitless exercise that has no place here.
>
--
JamesCX DiPietro (cdgzone at gmail.com)
>
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attg lobal.netwrote:

>Jackie Silva wrote:

>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attg lobal.netwrote
>>>As I said before. The standard for this newsgroup is bottom or interwoven
>>>posting. You will get few people to talk to you here if you continue to
>>>top post.
>>>
>>>
>>there is no "standard" posting style as long as it's clear and
>>understandabl e! top-posting is fine. bottom-posting is good too. it's a
>>matter of individual preference.... your whining is way off-topic.

>this has

>>nothing to do with the OP's question.
>>>
>>--Jackie S
>>>

>(Top posting fixed)
>>
>Yes, there is, and you have to look at each newsgroup. The standard in
>this newsgroup is bottom or interwoven posting.
>>
>It's a matter of *group* preference, not *individual* preference.
>>
>But continue top posting - you won't get a lot of response.
>>
>And your comment added absolutely nothing to the conversation - except
>to show you don't understand what you're doing.
>>

>

Stuff it, troll.

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[Jackie Silva]

Re: Session or browser problem??

your sig is broken. and your assumption that this flamefest and your
contribution to it helps anyone is seriously misguided.

why are you posting if you don't plan on reading the reply?

"Michael Fesser" <netizen@gmx.de wrote in message
news:c5jhi39mu3 93tnq69ql75lgt1 ehknq1oo4@4ax.c om...

.oO(Jackie Silva)
>

>>what kind of reading problems are you having?

>
None anymore. I don't have to read you.
>
If you offend the regulars in a newsgroup, you shouldn't expect much
help if you should ever need it. We want nothing from you - you want
something from us.

[Rik Wasmus]

Re: Session or browser problem??

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:31:56 +0100, JamesCX DiPietro
<ibraxa29@cdgzo ne.comwrote:

Stuckle is an old hand at the troll business. You may as well add him to
your killfile.

Just a few remarkt before I set this whole offtopic thread to ignore:
- There certainly is a non-binding, not enforced, though highly preferred
way of posting in this group.
- I think it's quite quaint a M. DiPietro en M. (Mrs/Ms, seems 'Jackie'
can be either) accuse one of the most regular on-topic posters with some
real knowledge of trolling. I confess I haven't search religiously, but I
can't find a truly usefull on topic post in this group from either of
those two.
- I totally agree with Jerry, but I'm more of a pessimist: I'll ask once
or twice nicely, and then quietly ignore those who still refuse to make it
easier for the reader to help them with their problems. I just don't feel
the need to announce that publicly. Jerry on the other hand still believes
those people can be persuaded (well, yeah, and has a little issue about
being right, and acknowledged, then again, he usually _is_ right).

So far from me, thread on ignore including some top-posters, I wish you
all a happy, albeit useless, discussion without end.
--
Rik Wasmus

[Rik Wasmus]

Re: Session or browser problem??

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:49:22 +0100, Jackie Silva <maritanlito@ya hoo.com>
wrote:

"Rik Wasmus" <luiheidsgoeroe @hotmail.comwro te in message
news:op.t02qzal i5bnjuv@metalli um.lan...

>On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:14:00 +0100, Jackie Silva <maritanlito@ya hoo.com>
>Quoting everything is almost as bad is no quote at all

bottom-posters often quote everything.

Topposter almost always do... Have you read your own replies?
--
Rik Wasmus

[Jackie Silva]

Re: Session or browser problem??

i suggest you read this and learn how to properly quote a source -

http://www.fontbonne.edu/academics/resourcespolicies/academicintegrity.htm

"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attg lobal.netwrote in message
news:raWdnTS07O EjULXanZ2dnUVZ_ sLinZ2d@comcast .com...

Jackie Silva wrote:

>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attg lobal.netwrote in message
>news:apKdndXjG eYPKbXanZ2dnUVZ _hmtnZ2d@comcas t.com...

>>Jackie Silva wrote:
>>>"Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid @yahoo.co.ukwro te in message
>>>news:xn0fd3i gc2joqxj000@new s.individual.ne t...
>>>>On 31/10/2007 in message <13ig9nsqr2ak39 d@news.supernew s.comJackie
>>>>Silva wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>there is no "standard" posting style as long as it's clear and
>>>>>understand able! top-posting is fine. bottom-posting is good too. it's
>>>>>a matter of individual preference.... your whining is way off-topic.
>>>>>this has nothing to do with the OP's question.
>>>>It would be more accurate to say that relative newcomers are unaware
>>>>of the conventions, or the reasons for them.
>>>>>
>>>>Try a Google for 'netiquette'.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--Jackie S
>>>>There's also a standard for signature separators, you don't meet that
>>>>either.
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK
>>>>This is as bad as it can get, but don't bet on it
>>>>
>>>there are multiple posting conventions used on usenet. read up:
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
>>>>
>>>your arguments against one posting style are based on the original
>>techical
>>>limitation s of usenet.
>>>>
>>(Top posting fixed)
>>>
>>No, my arguments are based on the STANDARDS OF THIS GROUP.
>>>
>>And idiots who refuse to follow standards don't get many responses in
>>this group.
>>>
>>Your arguments for top posting are based on being too lazy to scroll to
>>the bottom of the page before you start posting.
>>>
>>A. Because they're arrogant jerks.
>>Q. Why do they continue doing it?
>>A. Because it upsets the normal flow of the conversation.
>>Q. Why is top posting bad?
>>A. People who top post.
>>Q. Why are the most annoying people on usenet?
>>>
>>>

why do you insist on misquoting people when you respond?

>
(Top posting fixed)
>
And exactly where did I misquote you? My quotes of you are *exactly* as
entered.
>
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>

[Jackie Silva]

Re: Session or browser problem??

you're missing the point. you cannot automatically trim the content of a
post. if you believe you've invented an algorithm that does so, then share
it with us.

"Michael Fesser" <netizen@gmx.de wrote in message
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.oO(Jackie Silva)
>

>>there is no automatic way to trim posts.

>
Good newsreaders are able to automatically remove a properly delimited
sig in the response.
>

>>and there are times when you may
>>want to quote the sig.

>
Nothing easier than that.
>
Micha

[Michael Fesser]

Re: Session or browser problem??

..oO(Jackie Silva)

>your sig is broken.

You can't tell because I don't have a sig. If I would, it would be
_below_ my name, because my short name and sometimes some greetings
are part of my messages.

>and your assumption that this flamefest and your
>contribution to it helps anyone is seriously misguided.

It helps to learn more about people like you.

Micha

[JamesCX DiPietro]

Re: Session or browser problem??

Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attg lobal.netwrote:

Stuff it, troll.

That's etiquette for you.

--
JamesCX DiPietro (cdgzone at gmail.com)

[JamesCX DiPietro]

Re: Session or browser problem??

Well I think most people reading the thread will come away with an opposite impression. Jerry essentially told the person asking a question to go away and stop posting here, which is hardly on-topic or helpful.

There are 6 possible combinations of posting styles, all of which you'll see preferred by various users on this group and Usenet. You would be hard-pressed to call this any kind of standard or universal preference.

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Rik Wasmus <luiheidsgoeroe @hotmail.comwro te:

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:31:56 +0100, JamesCX DiPietro
<ibraxa29@cdgzo ne.comwrote:

>Stuckle is an old hand at the troll business. You may as well add him to
>your killfile.

>
Just a few remarkt before I set this whole offtopic thread to ignore:
- There certainly is a non-binding, not enforced, though highly preferred
way of posting in this group.
- I think it's quite quaint a M. DiPietro en M. (Mrs/Ms, seems 'Jackie'
can be either) accuse one of the most regular on-topic posters with some
real knowledge of trolling. I confess I haven't search religiously, but I
can't find a truly usefull on topic post in this group from either of
those two.
- I totally agree with Jerry, but I'm more of a pessimist: I'll ask once
or twice nicely, and then quietly ignore those who still refuse to make it
easier for the reader to help them with their problems. I just don't feel
the need to announce that publicly. Jerry on the other hand still believes
those people can be persuaded (well, yeah, and has a little issue about
being right, and acknowledged, then again, he usually _is_ right).
>
So far from me, thread on ignore including some top-posters, I wish you
all a happy, albeit useless, discussion without end.

[JamesCX DiPietro]

Re: Session or browser problem??

Well, disregard that, I don't think you should killfille Jerry. It's really up to you. His trolls can be amusing.

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JamesCX DiPietro <cdgzone@gmail. comwrote:

Stuckle is an old hand at the troll business. You may as well add him to your killfile.
>