IDE for Java?

[IchBin]

Re: IDE for Java?

Roy Berube wrote:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> Bill DeWitt wrote:
>>>>> I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow. Can
>>>>> someone
>>>>> recommend a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
>>>>> hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper bag
>>>>> in a
>>>>> few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for this
>>>>> project.
>>>> JCreator is good, it's not an IDE as such but it has menu commands for
>>>> compiling and executing classes. Good for learning I found.
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> I'm just starting to play around with java, and JCreator seems like a good
> java IDE. The layout is a lot like microsoft visual tools. There is a
> freeware version and a pro version. For me, JCreator feels right and works
> well.
>
> Another free IDE is NetBeans. I don't know what is going on, but it runs
> incredibly poorly on my computer. NetBeans is a java app, so it may be an
> indication that java is not installed correctly on my machine.
>
> Roy Berube
>
>[/color]

JCreator IDE is Sun's extension of Netbeans 4.1 to do J2EE development.
If you are going to do JDK development and not J2EE 1.4 or 1.5 JCreator
may not be a good choice.

Thanks in Advance...
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[Roy Berube]

Re: IDE for Java?


"IchBin" <weconsul@ptd.n et> wrote in message
news:K1ydnRho_L ZSOQHZUSdV9g@pt d.net...[color=blue][color=green]
>>[/color]
> JCreator IDE is Sun's extension of Netbeans 4.1 to do J2EE development. If
> you are going to do JDK development and not J2EE 1.4 or 1.5 JCreator may
> not be a good choice.
>
> Thanks in Advance...
> IchBin, Pocono Lake, Pa, USA http://weconsultants.awardspace.com
>[/color]

JCreator can do J2EE, but it handles J2SE as well. This blurb is from their
web site.
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JCreator is backwards-compatible with all previous version of the JDKs
published by Sun Microsystems. With one click, you can toggle between
different JDK profiles. Each profile defines the JDK home path and any
additional files for the classpath, such as the following:

a.. JDK 1.5.0
b.. JDK 1.5.0 - J2EE
c.. JDK 1.4.2
d.. JDK 1.2.2
e.. JDK 1.0.2
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Roy Berube

[IchBin]

Re: IDE for Java?

Roy Berube wrote:[color=blue]
> "IchBin" <weconsul@ptd.n et> wrote in message
> news:K1ydnRho_L ZSOQHZUSdV9g@pt d.net...[color=green]
>> JCreator IDE is Sun's extension of Netbeans 4.1 to do J2EE development. If
>> you are going to do JDK development and not J2EE 1.4 or 1.5 JCreator may
>> not be a good choice.
>>
>> Thanks in Advance...
>> IchBin, Pocono Lake, Pa, USA http://weconsultants.awardspace.com
>>[/color]
>
> JCreator can do J2EE, but it handles J2SE as well. This blurb is from their
> web site.
> -----------------
> JCreator is backwards-compatible with all previous version of the JDKs
> published by Sun Microsystems. With one click, you can toggle between
> different JDK profiles. Each profile defines the JDK home path and any
> additional files for the classpath, such as the following:
>
> a.. JDK 1.5.0
> b.. JDK 1.5.0 - J2EE
> c.. JDK 1.4.2
> d.. JDK 1.2.2
> e.. JDK 1.0.2
> -----------------
>
> Roy Berube
>
>[/color]
Thanks for the complete info..

Thanks in Advance...
IchBin, Pocono Lake, Pa, USA http://weconsultants.awardspace.com
_______________ _______________ _______________ _______________ ______________

'If there is one, Knowledge is the "Fountain of Youth"'
-William E. Taylor, Regular Guy (1952-)

[James]

Re: IDE for Java? (Netbeans Slow)

Roy Berube wrote:

>>>>Bill DeWitt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow. Can
>>>>>someone
>>>>>recommen d a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
>>>>>hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper bag
>>>>>in a
>>>>>few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for this
>>>>>project.
>>>>
>>>>JCreator is good, it's not an IDE as such but it has menu commands for
>>>>compiling and executing classes. Good for learning I found.
>>>
>>>

>
I'm just starting to play around with java, and JCreator seems like a good
java IDE. The layout is a lot like microsoft visual tools. There is a
freeware version and a pro version. For me, JCreator feels right and works
well.
>
Another free IDE is NetBeans. I don't know what is going on, but it runs
incredibly poorly on my computer. NetBeans is a java app, so it may be an
indication that java is not installed correctly on my machine.
>
Roy Berube
>
>

Yea, I used to have the same problem, but IDE 5 with the bundled jdk 1.5
is a significant performance boost, plus a more productive UI. Evenso,
you'll need at least 512MB of RAM, and 800 MHZ or higher CPU to truly
enjoy NetBeans. I'm running NetBeans right at this moment with just the
basic features turned on and it's consuming 103MB RAM. With all of the
features and included tools turned on, it can consume up ot 385MB of RAM.

[tia]

Re: IDE for Java? (Netbeans Slow)

James wrote:

Roy Berube wrote:
>

>>>>Bill DeWitt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow.
>>>>>Can someone
>>>>>recommen d a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie
>>>>>without
>>>>>hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper
>>>>>bag in a
>>>>>few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for
>>>>>this
>>>>>project.
>>>>>
>>>>JCreator is good, it's not an IDE as such but it has menu commands for
>>>>compiling and executing classes. Good for learning I found.
>>>>
>>>>

>>
> I'm just starting to play around with java, and JCreator seems like a
>good java IDE. The layout is a lot like microsoft visual tools. There
>is a freeware version and a pro version. For me, JCreator feels right
>and works well.
>>
> Another free IDE is NetBeans. I don't know what is going on, but it
>runs incredibly poorly on my computer. NetBeans is a java app, so it
>may be an indication that java is not installed correctly on my machine.
>>
>Roy Berube
>>

>
Yea, I used to have the same problem, but IDE 5 with the bundled jdk 1.5
is a significant performance boost, plus a more productive UI. Evenso,
you'll need at least 512MB of RAM, and 800 MHZ or higher CPU to truly
enjoy NetBeans. I'm running NetBeans right at this moment with just the
basic features turned on and it's consuming 103MB RAM. With all of the
features and included tools turned on, it can consume up ot 385MB of RAM.
>

For quick and dirty tasks or when working with just a handful of
classes, I use TextPad. It recognizes Java syntax and has built in
support for compiling and running a small app. For everything else, I
use Eclipse because it's free and has all the tools you need. I love
IntelliJ - very intuitive, but it's not free.

[Marc]

Re: IDE for Java? (Netbeans Slow)

tia wrote:

For quick and dirty tasks or when working with just a handful of
classes, I use TextPad. It recognizes Java syntax and has built in
support for compiling and running a small app. For everything else, I
use Eclipse because it's free and has all the tools you need. I love
IntelliJ - very intuitive, but it's not free.

I used to hate netbean's complexity, but now I've used it on an EJB
project i am very impressed. For what it does, you'd expect a high price
tag indeed.

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