IDE for Java?

[Bill DeWitt]

I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow. Can someone
recommend a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper bag in a
few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for this
project.

[Oliver Wong]

Re: IDE for Java?

"Bill DeWitt" <bill.jewitt@co msat.gov> wrote in message
news:FoWdnbDohp 75-IjZnZ2dnUVZ_sOd nZ2d@adelphia.c om...[color=blue]
>I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow. Can
>someone
> recommend a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
> hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper bag in a
> few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for this
> project.[/color]

You could try a programmer-oriented text editor (e.g. TextPad, JEdit,
etc.)

http://www.textpad.com/

http://www.jedit.org/

- Oliver

[IchBin]

Re: IDE for Java?

Bill DeWitt wrote:[color=blue]
> I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow. Can someone
> recommend a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
> hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper bag in a
> few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for this
> project.
>
>[/color]
One step above a programmer-oriented text editor, without a lot of
learning curve for the IDE, would be either of these two:

jGRASP http://www.jgrasp.org
BlueJ http://www.bluej.org

Both are used in a learning environment of H.S.and Colleges It has just
been announced that Sun and NetBeans will offer a new IDE, based on
BlueJ, in the near future. This is so students can graduate, so to
speak, and ease into a professional IDE after using BlueJ.

Thanks in Advance...
IchBin, Pocono Lake, Pa, USA

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[Luke H]

Re: IDE for Java?

IchBin wrote:[color=blue]
> Bill DeWitt wrote:[color=green]
>> I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow. Can
>> someone
>> recommend a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
>> hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper bag
>> in a
>> few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for this
>> project.
>>[/color][/color]

Try JCreatorLE (http://www.jcreator.com).
It's a good one.
- Luke

[John Pearson]

Re: IDE for Java?

Also try "Dr Java" at http://drjava.org/

J Pearson


"Luke H" <lingo@paradise .net.nz> wrote in message
news:441e9e27$1 @news.orcon.net .nz...[color=blue]
> IchBin wrote:[color=green]
> > Bill DeWitt wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow. Can
> >> someone
> >> recommend a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
> >> hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper bag
> >> in a
> >> few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for this
> >> project.
> >>[/color][/color]
>
> Try JCreatorLE (http://www.jcreator.com).
> It's a good one.
> - Luke[/color]

[Kenvi Luo]

Re: IDE for Java?

I recommend Eclipse strongly!

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"Bill DeWitt" <bill.jewitt@co msat.gov> дÈëÏûÏ¢ÐÂÎÅ:Fo WdnbDohp75-IjZnZ2dnUVZ_sOd nZ2d@adelphia.c om...[color=blue]
>I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow. Can
>someone
> recommend a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
> hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper bag in a
> few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for this
> project.
>
>[/color]

[BWill]

Re: IDE for Java?

Kenvi Luo wrote:[color=blue]
> I recommend Eclipse strongly!
>[/color]

Yeah, except his problem was with the slowness of NetBeans; Eclipse may
be a bit snappier because it uses SWT rather than Swing, but probably is
still too slow for his machine. Besides, it's got an even steeper
learning curve.

[IchBin]

Re: IDE for Java?

BWill wrote:[color=blue]
> Kenvi Luo wrote:[color=green]
>> I recommend Eclipse strongly!
>>[/color]
>
> Yeah, except his problem was with the slowness of NetBeans; Eclipse may
> be a bit snappier because it uses SWT rather than Swing, but probably is
> still too slow for his machine. Besides, it's got an even steeper
> learning curve.[/color]

Maybe the OP can respond to this thread so that people will not post to
it anymore.


Thanks in Advance...
IchBin, Pocono Lake, Pa, USA

http://weconsultants.servebeer.com/JHackerAppManager

_______________ _______________ _______________ _______________ ______________

'If there is one, Knowledge is the "Fountain of Youth"'
-William E. Taylor, Regular Guy (1952-)

[Bill DeWitt]

Re: IDE for Java?


"IchBin" <weconsul@ptd.n et> wrote in message
news:xDSdnQ6KSL I2UrvZUSdV9g@pt d.net...[color=blue]
> BWill wrote:[color=green]
> > Kenvi Luo wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> I recommend Eclipse strongly!
> >>[/color]
> >
> > Yeah, except his problem was with the slowness of NetBeans; Eclipse may
> > be a bit snappier because it uses SWT rather than Swing, but probably is
> > still too slow for his machine. Besides, it's got an even steeper
> > learning curve.[/color]
>
> Maybe the OP can respond to this thread so that people will not post to
> it anymore.[/color]

Yeah, I've been spending my time working... something wrong with that
whole idea...

But I have banged together a few little things, enough to make me
realize I am going to have to spend a little more time than I thought. I
will probably use one of the tools I ahve already been working with, just
because I don't have more time to try different things.

Thanks to all ...

[Marc]

Re: IDE for Java?

Bill DeWitt wrote:[color=blue]
> I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow. Can someone
> recommend a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
> hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper bag in a
> few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for this
> project.[/color]

JCreator is good, it's not an IDE as such but it has menu commands for
compiling and executing classes. Good for learning I found.


--
Marc
See http://www.imarc.co.uk/ for contact information.

[Nigel Molesworth]

Re: IDE for Java?

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:28:20 -0500, Bill DeWitt wrote:
[color=blue]
>Can someone recommend a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
>hiding every bit of code?[/color]

<http://www.bluej.org/>



--
Nigel M

[Edmond Dantes]

Re: IDE for Java?

Bill DeWitt wrote:
....[color=blue]
>
> But I have banged together a few little things, enough to make me
> realize I am going to have to spend a little more time than I thought. I
> will probably use one of the tools I ahve already been working with, just
> because I don't have more time to try different things.
>
> Thanks to all ...[/color]

You know, I just have to say that when a language *requires* an IDE just to
get anything done, that language has become way too complex.

But hey, what do I know? I've only been at this for nearly 30 years.

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[ophidian]

Re: IDE for Java?

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:53:58 +0100, Marc wrote:
[color=blue]
> Bill DeWitt wrote:[color=green]
>> I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow. Can someone
>> recommend a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
>> hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper bag in a
>> few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for this
>> project.[/color]
>
> JCreator is good, it's not an IDE as such but it has menu commands for
> compiling and executing classes. Good for learning I found.[/color]

You might try eclipse...

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/

and netbeans ide...

http://www.netbeans.info/downloads/download.php?type=5.0

[Computer Wizard]

Re: IDE for Java?

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:49:13 +0000, ophidian wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:53:58 +0100, Marc wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Bill DeWitt wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow. Can someone
>>> recommend a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
>>> hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper bag in a
>>> few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for this
>>> project.[/color]
>>
>> JCreator is good, it's not an IDE as such but it has menu commands for
>> compiling and executing classes. Good for learning I found.[/color]
>
> You might try eclipse...
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
>
> and netbeans ide...
>
> http://www.netbeans.info/downloads/d...d.php?type=5.0[/color]

VIDE can be used with Windows and Linux
Arachnophilia is Java based and can be used on any platform.

I have used both. Your mileage may vary.

[Roy Berube]

Re: IDE for Java?

>>> Bill DeWitt wrote:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> I downloaded the Sun product, and find it feature rich but slow. Can
>>>> someone
>>>> recommend a more basic (freeware) IDE which will help a newbie without
>>>> hiding every bit of code? I can program my way out of a wet paper bag
>>>> in a
>>>> few languages, but want to by-pass some of the learning curve for this
>>>> project.
>>>
>>> JCreator is good, it's not an IDE as such but it has menu commands for
>>> compiling and executing classes. Good for learning I found.[/color]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

I'm just starting to play around with java, and JCreator seems like a good
java IDE. The layout is a lot like microsoft visual tools. There is a
freeware version and a pro version. For me, JCreator feels right and works
well.

Another free IDE is NetBeans. I don't know what is going on, but it runs
incredibly poorly on my computer. NetBeans is a java app, so it may be an
indication that java is not installed correctly on my machine.

Roy Berube