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  • mysticwater
    New Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 14

    Yet another SEO question related to HTML

    Hi,
    I know how annoying these SEO questions can get, but I was hoping someone could quickly answer mine <link removed>:

    1)Is a certain way of coding using HTML better in terms of SEO?

    2) What exactly is the difference btw XHTML and HTML? is one better than the other in terms of SEO?

    3) Online tools say that my site: http://www.rblog.net16.net/
    is NOT indexed. But when I type in the URL it appears on google, even though its not the first entry, even though the search should produce one unique result....
    Is there a reason this occurs?

    4)It appears the google robots have not crawled the site in ages since I have changed the description and title meta tags. I just wanted to confirm (as I have seen this question in another forum) that I DO NOT have to submit my site to google after I have edited the meta tags?
    Last edited by Frinavale; Sep 7 '10, 05:42 PM. Reason: Please refrain from posting links to personal blogs unless you are asking for help in fixing it's appearance.
  • londres9b
    New Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 106

    #2
    1)Is a certain way of coding using HTML better in terms of SEO?
    I'm not an expert on that but I guess not really. Except some things:
    > Having unique, accurate page titles
    > Using the meta tags description and keywords. Make sure the description is related to the actual page content and not general across all site.
    > Using alt tags on images


    2) What exactly is the difference btw XHTML and HTML? is one better than the other in terms of SEO?
    XHTML is a "cleaner, stricter" version of HTML. (W3Schools)
    It has these differences:
    > All code (tags,..) must be in lowercase
    > All elements must be closed and properly nested
    > check the w3schools tutorial on XHTML

    No, I think not. If your code has no errors or so it doesn't matter if it's HTML or XHTML.


    3) Online tools say that my site: http://www.rblog.net16.net/
    is NOT indexed. But when I type in the URL it appears on google, even though its not the first entry, even though the search should produce one unique result....
    Is there a reason this occurs?
    I've searched for your site and I couldn't find it.. :(
    Yap, sorry, I found it on Google.. I don't know what's going on with your site. Try to use webmaster tools.
    I recommend you submit your site to Bing (and Google.)If you don't yet use Google Webmaster tools, I recommend using it.


    4)It appears the google robots have not crawled the site in ages since I have changed the description and title meta tags. I just wanted to confirm (as I have seen this question in another forum) that I DO NOT have to submit my site to google after I have edited the meta tags?
    That doesn't make sense.. Of course you don't. Google will comeback to your site regularly.
    Make use of the Google Webmaster tools to see what's going on with your site.

    hope I helped. :)

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    • drhowarddrfine
      Recognized Expert Expert
      • Sep 2006
      • 7434

      #3
      1) Yes and no. A book is easier to read if you use chapters, title and paragraphs. A web page is easier for search engines if you structure it the same.

      2) XHTML is HTML reformulated using XML. It was developed for those who use XML data. But most people don't serve XHTML as XHTML and the browser interprets it as broken HTML anyway ("tag soup"). So anyone who claims XHTML is better than HTML in any way doesn't understand all the technicals behind that.

      Neither is better or worse for SEO because the engines look for tags.

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      • Johnsei
        New Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1

        #4
        Did you ever give a thought about semantic html? If your html is semantically correct, then yes, your html is good for SEO. That means appropriately using <h> tag, understanding the between <b>and<strong>t ags. There are quite lot of such subtle difference between semantically sound html and bad html.

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        • Bryan Cheung
          New Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 55

          #5
          Use the right doctype then it doesn't matter if you use HTML or XHTML. The doctype is very very important for search engines because that is how they know best if they are reading html or xhtml(so does the browser!).

          And Johnsei mentioned it but semantic html is also pretty important for search engines. Use header-tags for headers, paragraph-tags for paragraphs and tables for tabulair data(and not structuur!), divisions on websites are made with the div-tag.

          B.

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          • drhowarddrfine
            Recognized Expert Expert
            • Sep 2006
            • 7434

            #6
            No, the doctype means nothing to search engines. Nor do they care whether you use HTML or XHTML. They view the structure and content of the page only. While XHTML does allow custom tags and attributes, search engines will ignore those since they are undefined for the most part.

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            • Bryan Cheung
              New Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 55

              #7
              Search engines doesn't look at doctype anymore? they used to?

              But how do they recognise the structure then?

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              • drhowarddrfine
                Recognized Expert Expert
                • Sep 2006
                • 7434

                #8
                Search engines never looked at doctype. The structure is never different because of that. <h1> is <h1> no matter what doctype you use.

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                • Bryan Cheung
                  New Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 55

                  #9
                  But how do you know where the title stops, or does your title dont stop?

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                  • drhowarddrfine
                    Recognized Expert Expert
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 7434

                    #10
                    In xhtml, title ends with an end tag. In html, it ends at the next left arrow bracket.

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                    • Death Slaught
                      Top Contributor
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 1137

                      #11
                      Originally posted by drhowarddrfine
                      ...
                      So you're saying that XHTML shouldn't be used in place of HTML, let's say, just because the syntax is cleaner?

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                      • drhowarddrfine
                        Recognized Expert Expert
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 7434

                        #12
                        No. I'm saying it doesn't matter. Besides, most people don't serve XHTML as XHTML and only as HTML.

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                        • Death Slaught
                          Top Contributor
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 1137

                          #13
                          Ah okay, I always XHTML Strict because the code is cleaner and forced ending tags. I don't use XML, but as long as it doesn't really matter, I don't care.

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                          • Bryan Cheung
                            New Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 55

                            #14
                            @drhowarddrfine , just trying to make it clear to myself:
                            Code:
                            <h1>This is a <strong>title</strong>
                            So in this example the title stops at "title"?

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                            • drhowarddrfine
                              Recognized Expert Expert
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 7434

                              #15
                              I don't know what point I was trying to make cause that doesn't make sense. Where an element starts or ends is the same in both html and xhtml in most cases. xhtml always requires an end tag while html does not in all cases but it doesn't matter to search engines.

                              You guys need to read through Henri Sivonen's explanation of doctypes to get a better feel for this, especially the part on parsing.

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