Help needed IE FF conflict

rf · Oct 6 '08, 10:45 AM

Re: Help needed IE FF conflict

"pecan" <pecan@NOSPAMro uxville.infowro te in message
news:gccp0k$f25 $1@registered.m otzarella.org.. .

Okay, I need help.
Here's the url (temporary) www.africanbush.co.za/wordpress/
>
What happens is that when you hover over Archives in FF it expands nicely
and shows the different links, but when I hover over it in IE nothing
happens.

You mean IE6.

IE6 only supports :hover on links, that is <aelements with a href
attribute.

How do I fix it?

Google will tell you. It comes up quite often.

**Bergamot** · Oct 6 '08, 02:25 PM

Re: Help needed IE FF conflict

pecan wrote:

Okay, I need help.
Here's the url (temporary) www.africanbush.co.za/wordpress/

Yes, you do need help, but maybe not in the way you think.

The fixed 900px width looks a mess in smaller windows, and with no
margins on the side text butts right up against the edge of the
viewport. I hate that. Or it could just look a mess with my large
default text size. Tis one of the evils of depending on a fixed (12px)
font size, I think. I can't read anything that small with any degree of
comfort.

That alt="divider line" must go. Alt text is supposed to be a text
replacement for an image, not a description of it.

Readability of those semi-opaque drop-down menus is seriously impaired.
Making text bold on :hover is a very bad idea, too. A lot of text jumps
around because bolding causes line wrapping, but normal weight doesn't.

I'm sure there are more, but you should worry about IE after correcting
some of these design issues.

--
Berg

**David E. Ross** · Oct 6 '08, 03:25 PM

Re: Help needed IE FF conflict

On 10/6/2008 3:24 AM, pecan wrote:

Okay, I need help.
Here's the url (temporary) www.africanbush.co.za/wordpress/
>
What happens is that when you hover over Archives in FF it expands
nicely and shows the different links, but when I hover over it in IE
nothing happens.
>
How do I fix it?
>
Catherine

Your page requires significant horizontal scrolling to read. Back and
forth, back and forth. This is sufficiently annoying as to cause a
visitor to exit. You need to make your page adaptable to any size
viewing window. Not everyone surfs the Web with their browser
maximized. Not everyone uses 1024x768 screen resolution. Some of us
need larger fonts than you expect.

Further, you have 85 XHTML errors as reported by
<http://validator.w3.or g/>. Fix these -- which might affect all
browsers -- before trying to make the page work for a particular browser.

--

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Q: What's a President Bush cocktail?
A: Business on the rocks.

**dorayme** · Oct 6 '08, 10:55 PM

Re: Help needed IE FF conflict

In article <gccp0k$f25$1@r egistered.motza rella.org>,
pecan <pecan@NOSPAMro uxville.infowro te:

Okay, I need help.
Here's the url (temporary) www.africanbush.co.za/wordpress/
>
What happens is that when you hover over Archives in FF it expands
nicely and shows the different links, but when I hover over it in IE
nothing happens.
>
How do I fix it?
>
Catherine

By getting to know at least the sort of approach taken here:

<http://htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/>

with special attention to section beginning:

"And that will sort out everything for those browsers that fully support
the :hover pseudo class, but for Internet Explorer we need to set the
Suckerfish JavaScript loose:"

--
dorayme

**pecan** · Oct 7 '08, 03:55 AM

Re: Help needed IE FF conflict

Bergamot wrote:

pecan wrote:

>Okay, I need help.
>Here's the url (temporary) www.africanbush.co.za/wordpress/

>
Yes, you do need help, but maybe not in the way you think.
>
The fixed 900px width looks a mess in smaller windows, and with no
margins on the side text butts right up against the edge of the
viewport. I hate that. Or it could just look a mess with my large
default text size. Tis one of the evils of depending on a fixed (12px)
font size, I think. I can't read anything that small with any degree of
comfort.
>
That alt="divider line" must go. Alt text is supposed to be a text
replacement for an image, not a description of it.
>
Readability of those semi-opaque drop-down menus is seriously impaired.
Making text bold on :hover is a very bad idea, too. A lot of text jumps
around because bolding causes line wrapping, but normal weight doesn't.
>
I'm sure there are more, but you should worry about IE after correcting
some of these design issues.
>

Berg, I can't say I like the design, it isn't mine, I'm just coding what
I'm told. The lady who wants it is very specific about all sorts of
things, including the width, and the opaque menu bar. I've taken out my
"designed by" bit as a result.

**pecan** · Oct 7 '08, 03:55 AM

Re: Help needed IE FF conflict

dorayme wrote:

In article <gccp0k$f25$1@r egistered.motza rella.org>,
pecan <pecan@NOSPAMro uxville.infowro te:
>

>Okay, I need help.
>Here's the url (temporary) www.africanbush.co.za/wordpress/
>>
>What happens is that when you hover over Archives in FF it expands
>nicely and shows the different links, but when I hover over it in IE
>nothing happens.
>>
>How do I fix it?
>>
>Catherine

>
By getting to know at least the sort of approach taken here:
>
<http://htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/>
>
with special attention to section beginning:
>
"And that will sort out everything for those browsers that fully support
the :hover pseudo class, but for Internet Explorer we need to set the
Suckerfish JavaScript loose:"
>

I found this site after I'd posted the question (where were you three
days ago?). It's knowing what to search for that makes a difference.
Thanks dorayme

**pecan** · Oct 7 '08, 04:05 AM

Re: Help needed IE FF conflict

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/6/2008 3:24 AM, pecan wrote:

>Okay, I need help.
>Here's the url (temporary) www.africanbush.co.za/wordpress/
>>
>What happens is that when you hover over Archives in FF it expands
>nicely and shows the different links, but when I hover over it in IE
>nothing happens.
>>
>How do I fix it?
>>
>Catherine

>
Your page requires significant horizontal scrolling to read. Back and
forth, back and forth. This is sufficiently annoying as to cause a
visitor to exit. You need to make your page adaptable to any size
viewing window. Not everyone surfs the Web with their browser
maximized. Not everyone uses 1024x768 screen resolution. Some of us
need larger fonts than you expect.
>
Further, you have 85 XHTML errors as reported by
<http://validator.w3.or g/>. Fix these -- which might affect all
browsers -- before trying to make the page work for a particular browser.
>

I had already run it through the validator, and some of those errors are
caused by the posts on the blog, and others are caused by the validators
inability to validate php. I don't know how to fix the php - posts I
can, but they don't impinge on the header - if they did all blogs would
fall down!!
I corrected those that are not purely cosmetic (no alt tags, etc) and it
made no difference.

I'm sorry about the scrollling, and I agree, but it's not my idea.

**dorayme** · Oct 7 '08, 04:45 AM

Re: Help needed IE FF conflict

In article <gcemf6$71k$2@r egistered.motza rella.org>,
pecan <pecan@NOSPAMro uxville.infowro te:

dorayme wrote:

In article <gccp0k$f25$1@r egistered.motza rella.org>,
pecan <pecan@NOSPAMro uxville.infowro te:

Okay, I need help.
Here's the url (temporary) www.africanbush.co.za/wordpress/
>
What happens is that when you hover over Archives in FF it expands
nicely and shows the different links, but when I hover over it in IE
nothing happens.
>
How do I fix it?
>
Catherine

By getting to know at least the sort of approach taken here:

<http://htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/>

with special attention to section beginning:

"And that will sort out everything for those browsers that fully support
the :hover pseudo class, but for Internet Explorer we need to set the
Suckerfish JavaScript loose:"

>
I found this site after I'd posted the question (where were you three
days ago?). It's knowing what to search for that makes a difference.
Thanks dorayme

I was here desperately wanting someone to ask something - anything -
about a dropdown menu. But no one did. At least not that I saw. I cried
myself to sleep that night. It was horrible.

--
dorayme

**Holger Jeromin** · Oct 7 '08, 06:15 AM

Re: Help needed IE FF conflict

pecan schrieb am 07.10.2008 06:00:

David E. Ross wrote:

>Further, you have 85 XHTML errors as reported by
><http://validator.w3.or g/>. Fix these -- which might affect all
>browsers -- before trying to make the page work for a particular browser.

I had already run it through the validator, and some of those errors are
caused by the posts on the blog, and others are caused by the validators
inability to validate php.

php provides html. validators validates html. all is fine.

--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Holger Jeromin

**Bergamot** · Oct 7 '08, 03:15 PM

Re: Help needed IE FF conflict

pecan wrote:

Bergamot wrote:

>pecan wrote:

>>Okay, I need help.
>>Here's the url (temporary) www.africanbush.co.za/wordpress/

>>
>Yes, you do need help, but maybe not in the way you think.

>
Berg, I can't say I like the design, it isn't mine, I'm just coding what
I'm told. The lady who wants it is very specific about all sorts of
things, including the width, and the opaque menu bar. I've taken out my
"designed by" bit as a result.

Good move on your part, I think. Hopefully the client will discover some
of her choices weren't such good ideas and hire you again to correct
them. You are warning her of the potential problems, right?

--
Berg

**pecan** · Oct 7 '08, 08:35 PM

Re: Help needed IE FF conflict

Bergamot wrote:

pecan wrote:

>Bergamot wrote:

>>pecan wrote:
>>>Okay, I need help.
>>>Here's the url (temporary) www.africanbush.co.za/wordpress/
>>Yes, you do need help, but maybe not in the way you think.

>Berg, I can't say I like the design, it isn't mine, I'm just coding what
>I'm told. The lady who wants it is very specific about all sorts of
>things, including the width, and the opaque menu bar. I've taken out my
>"designed by" bit as a result.

>
Good move on your part, I think. Hopefully the client will discover some
of her choices weren't such good ideas and hire you again to correct
them. You are warning her of the potential problems, right?
>

Yes, I'm warning her, slowly.
:-)
Don't know if I like fixing what other people start, but it's certainly
thrown me in the deep end.

**pecan** · Oct 7 '08, 08:35 PM

Re: Help needed IE FF conflict

dorayme wrote:

In article <gcemf6$71k$2@r egistered.motza rella.org>,
pecan <pecan@NOSPAMro uxville.infowro te:
>

>dorayme wrote:

>>In article <gccp0k$f25$1@r egistered.motza rella.org>,
>> pecan <pecan@NOSPAMro uxville.infowro te:
>>>
>>>Okay, I need help.
>>>Here's the url (temporary) www.africanbush.co.za/wordpress/
>>>>
>>>What happens is that when you hover over Archives in FF it expands
>>>nicely and shows the different links, but when I hover over it in IE
>>>nothing happens.
>>>>
>>>How do I fix it?
>>>>
>>>Catherine
>>By getting to know at least the sort of approach taken here:
>>>
>><http://htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/>
>>>
>>with special attention to section beginning:
>>>
>>"And that will sort out everything for those browsers that fully support
>>the :hover pseudo class, but for Internet Explorer we need to set the
>>Suckerfish JavaScript loose:"
>>>

>I found this site after I'd posted the question (where were you three
>days ago?). It's knowing what to search for that makes a difference.
>Thanks dorayme

>
I was here desperately wanting someone to ask something - anything -
about a dropdown menu. But no one did. At least not that I saw. I cried
myself to sleep that night. It was horrible.
>

lol
You'll feel better tomorrow.

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