CSS Book

[Wayfarer]

I've been dicking around with CSS for over a year now, mostly getting
valuable help from you folks and trying different things to see what
works, but very often I don't understand *why* or *how* something works.

I'd appreciate your providing me with books and/or tutorials on CSS
(besides w3cschools.com, done that) so I'll be able to *know* why
something works and even be able to minimize the time I spend waving
dead chickens.

I did Google and Amazon (hey, it's a verb to me) this, but I got so much
stuff I thought I get the opinion of <flattery id="shameless"> experts
</flattery> to winnow the list down.

TIA

Neill

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[Philip Herlihy]

Re: CSS Book

I like this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0006I0HUE/qid=1105697055/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_10_4/202-5372550-4459807

(downloadable e-book version in PDF, paperback available)

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"Wayfarer" <website@bottom .com> wrote in message
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> I did Google and Amazon (hey, it's a verb to me) this, but I got so much
> stuff I thought I get the opinion of <flattery id="shameless"> experts
> </flattery> to winnow the list down.
>[/color]

[Kerberos]

Re: CSS Book

Em Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:39:39 -0500, Wayfarer <website@bottom .com> escreveu:

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> I'd appreciate your providing me with books[/color]

If you're to buy a book, buy Dan Cederholm's "Web Standards Solutions".

Jeffrey Zeldman's "Designing With Web Standards" is interesting but it's a
whole bunch of blablabla, it's the double in size, and his style of
writing is bitter at times.

Download the W3C's CSS Recommendation e-book and print it, it's excellent.

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/css2.pdf

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[Andrew Donaldson]

Re: CSS Book

Wayfarer wrote:[color=blue]
> I'd appreciate your providing me with books and/or tutorials on CSS[/color]

Buy your own :-) But the *name* of a book which works well for me is
Eric Meyer's Cascading Style Sheets The Definitive Guide, published by
O'Reilly.
[color=blue]
> I did Google and Amazon (hey, it's a verb to me) this, but I got so much
> stuff I thought I get the opinion of <flattery id="shameless"> experts
> </flattery> to winnow the list down.[/color]

I'm immune to your flattery, because I'm not an expert. But watch out,
because what you as a learner make of a book might not be what an expert
makes of the same book - the expert doesn't need a good book to learn
from. Look through some if you can and see what you think suits you
best. There used to be a chapter of Eric's book available from (I think)
O'Reilly's website as a sample - I'm sure you'll manage to find it.

Andrew

[Wayfarer]

Re: CSS Book

Thus spake Andrew Donaldson:[color=blue]
> Wayfarer wrote:[color=green]
> > I'd appreciate your providing me with books and/or tutorials on CSS[/color]
>
> Buy your own :-) But the *name* of a book which works well for me is
> Eric Meyer's Cascading Style Sheets The Definitive Guide, published by
> O'Reilly.[/color]

Semanticist! I sit corrected. ;-)

I saw Meyer's book and it got mixed reviews.

Thanks,
Neill

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There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. -
Morpheus

[Stan Brown]

Re: CSS Book

"Wayfarer" wrote in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets:[color=blue]
>I've been dicking around with CSS for over a year now, mostly getting
>valuable help from you folks and trying different things to see what
>works, but very often I don't understand *why* or *how* something works.
>
>I'd appreciate your providing me with books and/or tutorials on CSS
>(besides w3cschools.com, done that) so I'll be able to *know* why
>something works and even be able to minimize the time I spend waving
>dead chickens.[/color]

With your attitude (and I mean that in a complimentary way, let me
hasten to add), I think you could benefit from the CSS spec.
Contrasting knowing what you're doing with "waving dead chickens"
makes you a man, or woman, or person after my own heart.

See the URL of the spec in my sig.

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HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:

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[Stan Brown]

Re: CSS Book

"Andrew Donaldson" wrote in
comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets:[color=blue]
>Wayfarer wrote:[color=green]
>> I'd appreciate your providing me with books and/or tutorials on CSS[/color]
>
>Buy your own :-) But the *name* of a book which works well for me is
>Eric Meyer's Cascading Style Sheets The Definitive Guide, published by
>O'Reilly.[/color]

Ah, but is that what the book is /called/ ?

And what is the name of the book called?

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Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA

http://OakRoadSystems.com/

HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:

http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/05/05/why_we_wont_help_you

[Michael Rozdoba]

Re: CSS Book

Wayfarer wrote:[color=blue]
> Thus spake Andrew Donaldson:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>>Eric Meyer's Cascading Style Sheets The Definitive Guide, published by
>>O'Reilly.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> I saw Meyer's book and it got mixed reviews.[/color]

FWIW I have the book (2nd ed) & find it a good read & very helpful. I'd
consider myself newbieish & to be someone concerned about standards.

--
Michael
m r o z a t u k g a t e w a y d o t n e t

[Andrew Donaldson]

Re: CSS Book

Wayfarer wrote:
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> Thus spake Andrew Donaldson:
>[color=green]
>>Wayfarer wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>I'd appreciate your providing me with books and/or tutorials on CSS[/color]
>>
>>Buy your own :-) But the *name* of a book which works well for me is
>>Eric Meyer's Cascading Style Sheets The Definitive Guide, published by
>>O'Reilly.[/color]
>
>
> Semanticist! I sit corrected. ;-)[/color]

Nah, more like smart-ass :-) Doesn't everybody love a pedant?
[color=blue]
> I saw Meyer's book and it got mixed reviews.[/color]

I saw that too - we probably did the same searching. But I decided that
Meyer's competence in the subject couldn't be questioned by the likes of
me, and the structured way he introduced each aspect with useful
examples suited me perfectly. However, learning is a personal thing, and
it might not suit you in the same way, hence my recommendation to browse
a few books if you can.

Andrew

[Andrew Donaldson]

Re: CSS Book

Stan Brown wrote:[color=blue]
> "Andrew Donaldson" wrote in
> comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets:
>[color=green]
>>But the *name* of a book which works well for me is
>>Eric Meyer's Cascading Style Sheets The Definitive Guide, published by
>>O'Reilly.[/color]
>
>
> Ah, but is that what the book is /called/ ?[/color]

Good point - I think I actually meant title anyway, then added author
and publisher. Ho hum. My *copy* is called "The CSS Book" as in "Now
where have I left..."
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> And what is the name of the book called?[/color]

And so, ad infinitum.

Andrew

[André Hänsel]

Re: CSS Book

Wayfarer wrote:[color=blue]
> I'd appreciate your providing me with books and/or tutorials on CSS
> (besides w3cschools.com, done that) so I'll be able to *know* why
> something works and even be able to minimize the time I spend waving
> dead chickens.[/color]

At www.selfhtml.org there is another rather good and understandable
documentation of CSS, an english version seems to be available (scroll
down), don't know if it's complete (I mean the english version, not the
whole thing).