Tracking down a inheritence problem

[Paul C]

I have a font size being applied to an element, however I have been unable
to track where it is coming from.

Is there an app that will tell you the complete style sheet property of an
element and where it came from.

If not how do you track these problems down.

regards Paul

[Mark Tranchant]

Re: Tracking down a inheritence problem

Paul C wrote:[color=blue]
> I have a font size being applied to an element, however I have been unable
> to track where it is coming from.
>
> Is there an app that will tell you the complete style sheet property of an
> element and where it came from.
>
> If not how do you track these problems down.[/color]

Posting a URL here might help.

--
Mark.

http://tranchant.plus.com/

[Paul C]

Re: Tracking down a inheritence problem


"Mark Tranchant" <mark@tranchant .plus.com> wrote in message
news:414a9a13$0 $83322$ed2e19e4 @ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.n et...[color=blue]
> Paul C wrote:[color=green]
> > I have a font size being applied to an element, however I have been[/color][/color]
unable[color=blue][color=green]
> > to track where it is coming from.
> >
> > Is there an app that will tell you the complete style sheet property of[/color][/color]
an[color=blue][color=green]
> > element and where it came from.
> >
> > If not how do you track these problems down.[/color]
>
> Posting a URL here might help.
>
> --
> Mark.
> http://tranchant.plus.com/[/color]

This was more of a self help question, in regards to tools used. I am also
looking for a document tree program. Both combined would be excellent. I
think this would be a useful tool.

regards Paul

[Phil Evans]

Re: Tracking down a inheritence problem

Paul C wrote:[color=blue]
> I have a font size being applied to an element, however I have been unable
> to track where it is coming from.
>
> Is there an app that will tell you the complete style sheet property of an
> element and where it came from.
>
> If not how do you track these problems down.[/color]

1. Install Firefox, ensuring you choose a custom installation and
include the Developer Tools
2. Install the Web Developer Toobar extension, noting the CSS->View
Style Information menu option
3. Profit!!!!

P

[Neal]

Re: Tracking down a inheritence problem

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:57:47 +0100, Paul C <P@cookson_remo ve_.demon.co.uk >
wrote:
[color=blue]
> I have a font size being applied to an element, however I have been
> unable
> to track where it is coming from.
>
> Is there an app that will tell you the complete style sheet property of
> an
> element and where it came from.
>
> If not how do you track these problems down.[/color]

1) Read up in the specs on inferitance, it gets weird. Fixed sizes are
inherited from parents. But %'s are multiplied, so if body {font-size:
111%} and p {font-size: 90%;}, the rendered size of p is actually 99.9%.

2) Some quirks situations make, say, table fonts different than you'd
expect. So use a strict doctype to minimize this.

In the CSS rec there's a sample stylesheet for HTML. No UA is required to
use it for default rendering, but most are pretty close.

[Chris Morris]

Re: Tracking down a inheritence problem

Neal <neal413@yahoo. com> writes:[color=blue]
> 1) Read up in the specs on inferitance, it gets weird. Fixed sizes are
> inherited from parents. But %'s are multiplied, so if body {font-size:
> 111%} and p {font-size: 90%;}, the rendered size of p is actually
> 99.9%.[/color]

To complicate further, assuming that 100% is set to an integer size,
the browser might round the fractional 99.9% up or down, depending on
the browser, the phase of the moon, and the fonts available on the
system.

--
Chris

[Neal]

Re: Tracking down a inheritence problem

On 17 Sep 2004 17:39:20 +0100, Chris Morris <c.i.morris@dur ham.ac.uk>
wrote:
[color=blue]
> Neal <neal413@yahoo. com> writes:[color=green]
>> 1) Read up in the specs on inferitance, it gets weird. Fixed sizes are
>> inherited from parents. But %'s are multiplied, so if body {font-size:
>> 111%} and p {font-size: 90%;}, the rendered size of p is actually
>> 99.9%.[/color]
>
> To complicate further, assuming that 100% is set to an integer size,
> the browser might round the fractional 99.9% up or down, depending on
> the browser, the phase of the moon, and the fonts available on the
> system.
>[/color]

.... so the best solution is to avoid changing font size in these
situations!

If you set body {font-size: 100%} and change only those elements which
should not be rendered at that size, it'll work out quite simply.

[Paul C]

Re: Tracking down a inheritence problem


"Phil Evans" <newsgroups@phi lHADDOCKevans.r emovethefish.co m> wrote in
message news:1095413203 .275892@smtp-1.griffin.com.. .[color=blue]
> Paul C wrote:[color=green]
> > I have a font size being applied to an element, however I have been[/color][/color]
unable[color=blue][color=green]
> > to track where it is coming from.
> >
> > Is there an app that will tell you the complete style sheet property of[/color][/color]
an[color=blue][color=green]
> > element and where it came from.
> >
> > If not how do you track these problems down.[/color]
>
> 1. Install Firefox, ensuring you choose a custom installation and
> include the Developer Tools
> 2. Install the Web Developer Toobar extension, noting the CSS->View
> Style Information menu option
> 3. Profit!!!!
>
> P[/color]

This is exactly what I wanted -

Thanks. One more convert to firefox.

regards Paul

[Philip Herlihy]

Re: Tracking down a inheritence problem

"Paul C" <P@cookson_remo ve_.demon.co.uk > wrote in message > This is exactly
what I wanted -[color=blue]
>
> Thanks. One more convert to firefox.
>
> regards Paul
>
>[/color]

What's the difference between Firefox & Mozilla? Aren't they from the same
stable?


--
############### #####
## PH, London
############### #####

[Phil Evans]

Re: Tracking down a inheritence problem

Philip Herlihy wrote:[color=blue]
> "Paul C" <P@cookson_remo ve_.demon.co.uk > wrote in message > This is exactly
> what I wanted -
>[color=green]
>>Thanks. One more convert to firefox.
>>
>>regards Paul[/color]
>
> What's the difference between Firefox & Mozilla? Aren't they from the same
> stable?[/color]

They both use the same rendering engine (Gecko) but Firefox is wrapped
differently - and in many people's opinions, better.

P

[Philip Herlihy]

Re: Tracking down a inheritence problem

"Phil Evans" <newsgroups@phi lHADDOCKevans.r emovethefish.co m> wrote in
message news:1095683962 .642394@smtp-1.griffin.com.. .[color=blue][color=green]
> > What's the difference between Firefox & Mozilla? Aren't they from the[/color][/color]
same[color=blue][color=green]
> > stable?[/color]
>
> They both use the same rendering engine (Gecko) but Firefox is wrapped
> differently - and in many people's opinions, better.[/color]

Thanks - I'll try it.

PH

[Brian]

Re: Tracking down a inheritence problem

Philip Herlihy wrote:
[color=blue]
> What's the difference between Firefox & Mozilla? Aren't they from
> the same stable?[/color]

"Mozilla" -- now called Mozilla Seamonkey -- is a suite of applications
(browser, email client, chat client, etc). Firefox is just the web
browser, with a simpler user interface.


--
Brian (remove "invalid" to email me)

http://www.tsmchughs.com/