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  • dorayme

    #61
    Re: Validating against a higher standard

    In article <Xns9B1A4F205A1 39arbpenyahooco m@69.16.185.250 >,
    Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.c omwrote:
    Gazing into my crystal ball I observed dorayme
    >
    ....
    >
    I love reading your posts in the morning, makes my day. Thank you.
    Because of the time differences, you are quite likely witnessing me in
    sit-down comic mood trying to laugh myself to sleep so I have funny
    dreams...

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    • dorayme

      #62
      Re: Validating against a higher standard

      In article <Nivzk.97716$1p 1.6278@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews .com>,
      "Albert Wiersch" <nospam@nospam. comwrote:
      "dorayme" <doraymeRidThis @optusnet.com.a uwrote in message
      news:doraymeRid This-FAB501.11003015 092008@web.aioe .org...

      How sure are you that your GG search gets all the posts by Albert? I
      doubt if it is so perfect.
      >
      Or maybe because I posted the recommendations on private newsservers, or
      recommended them at other places like a website or forum forum... or in
      person face to face...
      >
      Albert Wiersch
      O Albert, it's ok, I had that one covered too. Trust me, this is a war
      to defend your honour and character and I have strategic reasons to keep
      some of the ammo dry...

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      • dorayme

        #63
        Re: Validating against a higher standard

        In article <80935$48ce98c6 $40cba7c6$20458 @NAXS.COM>,
        "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@centra l.netwrote:
        All should be aware of your bias and one could say your posts
        are not more than SPAM
        One can say a lot of things. That does not make them true. Albert's
        posts are not *much* like spam at all.

        For a start, what spammer stands up trying to defend himself against
        gang powered personal insults and defamation of his character in such an
        open and gentlemanly way?

        But let us not get into details here again, let us observe something
        extremely useful and general, let us call it DD:

        Everything is a bit like everything else.

        Now it is silly in the extreme to make *this* the basis of objective
        comparison between two things. And this is doubly so for one such as
        yourself who is part of a very dangerous gang, many members of which use
        their real names, that has charged at poor Albert at every opportunity.

        Please try to be more reasonable.

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        • Blinky the Shark

          #64
          Re: Validating against a higher standard

          Jonathan N. Little wrote:
          Blinky the Shark wrote:
          >Jonathan N. Little wrote:
          >>
          >>Albert Wiersch wrote:
          >>>"dorayme" <doraymeRidThis @optusnet.com.a uwrote in message
          >>>news:dorayme RidThis-FAB501.11003015 092008@web.aioe .org...
          >>>>How sure are you that your GG search gets all the posts by Albert? I
          >>>>doubt if it is so perfect.
          >>>Or maybe because I posted the recommendations on private newsservers, or
          >>>recommende d them at other places like a website or forum forum... or in
          >>>person face to face...
          >>>>
          >>>Albert Wiersch
          >>>>
          >>>>
          >>Or maybe you mumble it in your sleep, it is really in material.
          >>
          >immaterial?
          >>
          >>
          >
          Yes fat-fingered again....Thank Blink but I am sure the message will
          still not be received.
          Sometimes people *mishear* a word or phrase, and then use the misheard
          version. My post was just a heads-up for the very slight possibility that
          that was the case - rather than a typo - with your expression.

          Example: "cut off his nose to spite his face" / "cut off his nose
          despite his face".


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          • dk_sz

            #65
            Re: Validating against a higher standard

            Quite some marketing strategy you have - selling fake products in a
            discussion groups where experts regularly reveal your lies.
            OMG ...

            So suggesting a product (that is one of the best,
            oldest and well-known of its kind.) to a poster
            asking for *alternatives* to W3C is now bad?



            best regards
            Thomas Schulz


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            • Lars Eighner

              #66
              Re: Validating against a higher standard

              In our last episode, <48cfe33e$0$567 92$edfadb0f@dte xt02.news.tele. dk>, the
              lovely and talented dk_sz broadcast on comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html:
              >Quite some marketing strategy you have - selling fake products in a
              >discussion groups where experts regularly reveal your lies.
              OMG ...
              So suggesting a product (that is one of the best,
              oldest and well-known of its kind.) to a poster
              asking for *alternatives* to W3C is now bad?
              Trying to palm something off as a validator when it is not a validator is
              bad as misrepresenting products has always been bad. W3C doesn't have the
              only SGML parser in the world, but this vendor does not have one of the
              others.

              --
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              and they say it's true and I'm ready to believe it. -Cokie Roberts,_ABC_

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              • dk_sz

                #67
                Re: Validating against a higher standard

                Trying to palm something off as a validator when it is not a validator is
                bad as misrepresenting products has always been bad. W3C doesn't have the
                Original poster asked:

                "terminate elements that aren't required by
                the standard to be explicitly terminated?"

                i.e. something alternative.


                I also believe the word "validator" can be used in the
                general sense of testing of something is "good" ...
                Not necessarily SGML valid.

                Please also consider Albert's product is from 1997 where
                perhaps the "validator" usage you use was not as common.

                (I just verified with WebArchive.org -- I did recall
                CSE was old, but was not sure if it was pre 1998 or not)



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                • dorayme

                  #68
                  Re: Validating against a higher standard

                  In article <slrngd04c7.2me m.usenet@debran ded.larseighner .com>,
                  Lars Eighner <usenet@larseig hner.comwrote:
                  W3C doesn't have the
                  only SGML parser in the world, but this vendor does not have one of the
                  others.
                  So he includes one that should be mentioned by you but this would be to
                  give him the slightest credit and being the devil he is, you are
                  certainly not going to do that eh?

                  --
                  dorayme

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                  • Rick Merrill

                    #69
                    Re: Validating against a higher standard

                    Michael Stemper wrote:
                    The W3C Validator is a great help, as far as it goes. ...
                    Unfortunately a lot of people CLAIN to use the validator
                    but their site FAILS!

                    Grab bars add safety to your shower and bathtub. Order bathroom grab bars for your shower and bathtub through our Houston Texas location and save!


                    for example, is a miserable failure, yet they put on
                    the icons say that it conforms!

                    There ought to be a way to hold the site sponsor or
                    the site developer responsible for such errors/falsehoods.

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                    • Jonathan N. Little

                      #70
                      Re: Validating against a higher standard

                      Rick Merrill wrote:
                      Michael Stemper wrote:
                      >The W3C Validator is a great help, as far as it goes. ...
                      >
                      Unfortunately a lot of people CLAIN to use the validator
                      but their site FAILS!
                      >
                      Grab bars add safety to your shower and bathtub. Order bathroom grab bars for your shower and bathtub through our Houston Texas location and save!

                      >
                      for example, is a miserable failure, yet they put on
                      the icons say that it conforms!
                      >
                      There ought to be a way to hold the site sponsor or
                      the site developer responsible for such errors/falsehoods.
                      >
                      Also an example of someone with neither a compelling need for nor
                      understanding of XHTML...

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                      Jonathan
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                      • Michael Stemper

                        #71
                        Re: Validating against a higher standard

                        In article <pan.2008.09.15 .23.36.50.55355 2@thurston.blin kynet.net>, Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.in validwrites:
                        >Sometimes people *mishear* a word or phrase, and then use the misheard
                        >version. My post was just a heads-up for the very slight possibility that
                        >that was the case - rather than a typo - with your expression.
                        >
                        >Example: "cut off his nose to spite his face" / "cut off his nose
                        >despite his face".
                        I came across a real gem a few months back, but don't recall what
                        newsgroup it was in: "... for all intensive purposes". Presumably,
                        the poster meant "... for all intents and purposes".

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                        Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.

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                        • Blinky the Shark

                          #72
                          Re: Validating against a higher standard

                          Michael Stemper wrote:
                          In article <pan.2008.09.15 .23.36.50.55355 2@thurston.blin kynet.net>, Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.in validwrites:
                          >
                          >>Sometimes people *mishear* a word or phrase, and then use the misheard
                          >>version. My post was just a heads-up for the very slight possibility that
                          >>that was the case - rather than a typo - with your expression.
                          >>
                          >>Example: "cut off his nose to spite his face" / "cut off his nose
                          >>despite his face".
                          >
                          I came across a real gem a few months back, but don't recall what
                          newsgroup it was in: "... for all intensive purposes". Presumably,
                          the poster meant "... for all intents and purposes".
                          Yeah, I've seen that one before, too.


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                          • John Dunlop

                            #73
                            OT - eggcorns (was: Validating against a higher standard)

                            Michael Stemper:
                            I came across a real gem a few months back, but don't recall what
                            newsgroup it was in: "... for all intensive purposes". Presumably,
                            the poster meant "... for all intents and purposes".
                            This, and over 600 more, are recorded in the Eggcorn Database:



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                            • Rick Merrill

                              #74
                              Re: Validating against a higher standard

                              Jonathan N. Little wrote:
                              Rick Merrill wrote:
                              >Michael Stemper wrote:
                              >>The W3C Validator is a great help, as far as it goes. ...
                              >>
                              >Unfortunatel y a lot of people CLAIN to use the validator
                              >but their site FAILS!
                              >>
                              >http://www.adaptiveaccess.com/grab_bars_shower_tub.php
                              >>
                              >for example, is a miserable failure, yet they put on
                              >the icons say that it conforms!
                              >>
                              >There ought to be a way to hold the site sponsor or
                              >the site developer responsible for such errors/falsehoods.
                              >>
                              >
                              Also an example of someone with neither a compelling need for nor
                              understanding of XHTML...
                              >
                              Did you mean me or the web developer? I have written to the web site
                              owner showing him how to validate what his hired site developer has done
                              and he has replied, "my developer says all is well."

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                              • Jonathan N. Little

                                #75
                                Re: Validating against a higher standard

                                Rick Merrill wrote:
                                Jonathan N. Little wrote:
                                >Rick Merrill wrote:
                                >>Michael Stemper wrote:
                                >>>The W3C Validator is a great help, as far as it goes. ...
                                >>>
                                >>Unfortunate ly a lot of people CLAIN to use the validator
                                >>but their site FAILS!
                                >>>
                                >>http://www.adaptiveaccess.com/grab_bars_shower_tub.php
                                >>>
                                >>for example, is a miserable failure, yet they put on
                                >>the icons say that it conforms!
                                >>>
                                >>There ought to be a way to hold the site sponsor or
                                >>the site developer responsible for such errors/falsehoods.
                                >>>
                                >>
                                >Also an example of someone with neither a compelling need for nor
                                >understandin g of XHTML...
                                >>
                                >
                                Did you mean me or the web developer? I have written to the web site
                                owner showing him how to validate what his hired site developer has done
                                and he has replied, "my developer says all is well."
                                >
                                Time for a different developer

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                                Jonathan
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