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  • Cezar

    select+class+opera 7.23 problem

    Hi!.

    I have this simple class:

    ..red {
    color:#900;
    }

    and using with <select class="red".... >
    IE, FF interpreting correctly, but Opera not. Show only gray texts. Why ?

    Cezar


  • Els

    #2
    Re: select+class+op era 7.23 problem

    Cezar wrote:
    [color=blue]
    > Hi!.
    >
    > I have this simple class:
    >
    > .red {
    > color:#900;
    > }
    >
    > and using with <select class="red".... >
    > IE, FF interpreting correctly, but Opera not. Show only
    > gray texts. Why ?[/color]

    Cause you've set Opera to black and white rendering?
    Without a url it's impossible to guess.
    Well, not impossible to guess of course, but impossible to guess
    it right :-)

    --
    Els
    Blog and other pages, mostly outdated.

    Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
    - Renato Russo -

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    • Cezar

      #3
      Re: select+class+op era 7.23 problem

      > > .red {[color=blue][color=green]
      > > color:#900;
      > > }
      > >
      > > and using with <select class="red".... >
      > > IE, FF interpreting correctly, but Opera not. Show only
      > > gray texts. Why ?[/color]
      >
      > Cause you've set Opera to black and white rendering?
      > Without a url it's impossible to guess.
      > Well, not impossible to guess of course, but impossible to guess
      > it right :-)[/color]

      Yes, it's right. But this software isn't ready in english language.
      Is prepared yet. So, You'll have to click here and click here and click here
      and
      then You'll see the effect. Of course I can send a link to my application
      and will write step by step what to do to see the effect. So ?

      And more... that wasn't <select>, but <option class="red" ...>.

      Cezar


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      • Cezar

        #4
        Re: select+class+op era 7.23 problem

        I was changed <option class="red"..> to <option style="color:re d"..>.
        Still not working in Opera. It's strange. Maybe Opera not supporting this ?
        I can't find any information at opera.com.

        Cezar


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        • Els

          #5
          Re: select+class+op era 7.23 problem

          Cezar wrote:
          [color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
          >> > .red {
          >> > color:#900;
          >> > }
          >> >
          >> > and using with <select class="red".... >
          >> > IE, FF interpreting correctly, but Opera not. Show only
          >> > gray texts. Why ?[/color]
          >>
          >> Cause you've set Opera to black and white rendering?
          >> Without a url it's impossible to guess.
          >> Well, not impossible to guess of course, but impossible to
          >> guess it right :-)[/color]
          >
          > Yes, it's right. But this software isn't ready in english
          > language.[/color]

          I don't think that's a problem for me. I don't understand
          Polish, but I should be able to find what ever you are
          explaining to me.
          [color=blue]
          > Is prepared yet. So, You'll have to click here
          > and click here and click here and
          > then You'll see the effect. Of course I can send a link to
          > my application and will write step by step what to do to
          > see the effect. So ?[/color]

          So, I can't look at it without a url.
          [color=blue]
          > And more... that wasn't <select>, but <option class="red"
          > ...>.[/color]

          Might be that it's not supported, but then IE and Moz
          shouldn't do it either.
          Can't you make a small test document that shows the problem
          and upload it?

          --
          Els
          Blog and other pages, mostly outdated.

          Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
          - Renato Russo -

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          • Neal

            #6
            Re: select+class+op era 7.23 problem

            On 19 Jul 2004 21:49:16 GMT, Els <els.aNOSPAM@ti scali.nl> wrote:
            [color=blue]
            > Cezar wrote:
            >[color=green][color=darkred]
            >>> > .red {
            >>> > color:#900;
            >>> > }
            >>> >
            >>> > and using with <select class="red".... >
            >>> > IE, FF interpreting correctly, but Opera not. Show only
            >>> > gray texts. Why ?
            >>>
            >>> Cause you've set Opera to black and white rendering?
            >>> Without a url it's impossible to guess.
            >>> Well, not impossible to guess of course, but impossible to
            >>> guess it right :-)[/color]
            >>
            >> Yes, it's right. But this software isn't ready in english
            >> language.[/color]
            >
            > I don't think that's a problem for me. I don't understand
            > Polish, but I should be able to find what ever you are
            > explaining to me.
            >[color=green]
            >> Is prepared yet. So, You'll have to click here
            >> and click here and click here and
            >> then You'll see the effect. Of course I can send a link to
            >> my application and will write step by step what to do to
            >> see the effect. So ?[/color]
            >
            > So, I can't look at it without a url.
            >[color=green]
            >> And more... that wasn't <select>, but <option class="red"
            >> ...>.[/color]
            >
            > Might be that it's not supported, but then IE and Moz
            > shouldn't do it either.
            > Can't you make a small test document that shows the problem
            > and upload it?
            >[/color]

            IE and Mozilla allow color and background-color on option. Opera does not
            AFAIK.

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            • Cezar

              #7
              Re: select+class+op era 7.23 problem

              > I don't think that's a problem for me. I don't understand[color=blue]
              > Polish, but I should be able to find what ever you are
              > explaining to me.[/color]

              Well, there is a way to change to english, but everything
              isn't translated yet. Let's do it.

              So, go to http://demo.ikeris.com/wandalex/main/login.php

              1. Login: admin, password: admin. It's public, because it is demo.
              2. Go to "Umowy" splice. Below You see No of contract 2/07/2004.
              Click it.
              3. When You click on this contract You'll see some details info.
              Click on "Czynnosci" . Now for example click in "Grupa 1" on
              small pen on right side. Then You'll go to edit mode.
              Now You'll see some list of hardware which must me in red color,
              but in Opera is in gray.

              That is problem.

              By the way, my english isn't so good, so please forgive me if I told
              You something not clear. Then ask me again and I'll explain You :-)

              Regards,
              Cezar


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              • Els

                #8
                Re: select+class+op era 7.23 problem

                Cezar wrote:
                [color=blue][color=green]
                >> I don't think that's a problem for me. I don't understand
                >> Polish, but I should be able to find what ever you are
                >> explaining to me.[/color]
                >
                > Well, there is a way to change to english, but everything
                > isn't translated yet. Let's do it.
                >
                > So, go to http://demo.ikeris.com/wandalex/main/login.php
                >
                > 1. Login: admin, password: admin. It's public, because it
                > is demo.[/color]

                I'm getting a page with 3 tables, but I can't find any
                "Umowy", nor a contract number of 2/07/2004. :-(

                Hang on, found it. It automatically gave me the English
                version, which says "contracts" . Changed it to Polish, and
                there it is. "Umowy". :-)
                [color=blue]
                > 2. Go to "Umowy" splice. Below You see No of
                > contract 2/07/2004. Click it.
                > 3. When You click on this contract You'll see some details
                > info. Click on "Czynnosci" . Now for example click in "Grupa
                > 1" on small pen on right side. Then You'll go to edit mode.
                > Now You'll see some list of hardware which must me in red
                > color, but in Opera is in gray.[/color]

                I see it.
                [color=blue]
                > That is problem.[/color]

                Yep, but I can't find anything wrong. I even tried to put
                other styles in there, even within a span inside the option
                element (might not be allowed, just tried it), but nothing.
                I think Neal is right, and it's just that Opera doesn't
                support it.
                I looked in Opera 7.51 btw, so it's not just that you didn't
                use the newest version.
                [color=blue]
                > By the way, my english isn't so good, so please forgive me
                > if I told You something not clear. Then ask me again and
                > I'll explain You :-)[/color]

                No need, it was all clear. Your English is fine :-)

                --
                Els
                Blog and other pages, mostly outdated.

                Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
                - Renato Russo -

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                • Cezar

                  #9
                  Re: select+class+op era 7.23 problem

                  > No need, it was all clear. Your English is fine :-)

                  By the way. If You may write me Your short opinion about
                  design this helpdesk. What do You think ?

                  My e-mail: cezary.kobylins ki(att)ikeris.c om .

                  Regards,
                  Cezar


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                  • Cezar

                    #10
                    Re: select+class+op era 7.23 problem

                    > IE and Mozilla allow color and background-color on option. Opera does not[color=blue]
                    > AFAIK.[/color]

                    So, there isn't any way to solve it. It's a pity :-(

                    Cezar


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                    • Els

                      #11
                      Re: select+class+op era 7.23 problem

                      Cezar wrote:
                      [color=blue][color=green]
                      >> No need, it was all clear. Your English is fine :-)[/color]
                      >
                      > By the way. If You may write me Your short opinion about
                      > design this helpdesk. What do You think ?[/color]

                      I think you better ask that in alt.html.critiq ue (but they'll
                      look at your code too!) or in
                      comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.site-design.

                      --
                      Els
                      Blog and other pages, mostly outdated.

                      Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
                      - Renato Russo -

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                      • Cezar

                        #12
                        Re: select+class+op era 7.23 problem

                        > I think you better ask that in alt.html.critiq ue (but they'll[color=blue]
                        > look at your code too!) or in
                        > comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.site-design.[/color]

                        Thank You. I'll go there.

                        Cezar


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                        • Harlan Messinger

                          #13
                          Re: select+class+op era 7.23 problem

                          "Cezar" <cezaryk@imail. net.pl> wrote:
                          [color=blue]
                          >Hi!.
                          >
                          >I have this simple class:
                          >
                          >.red {
                          >color:#900;
                          >}
                          >[/color]

                          Bad idea. The whole idea of CSS is to keep the presentation out of the
                          content. If you're going to call a class "red", then you're going to
                          have tags in your HTML with

                          class="red"

                          which means you're specifying the color in the HTML. Then, if you
                          decide you want to change the color, you'll have to change the CSS to

                          .red { color: #009; }

                          which will look silly, and then you'll change

                          class="red"

                          to

                          class = "blue"

                          everywhere in your HTML document.

                          You ought to name the class according to its *function*, whether it's
                          "errortext" or "warning" or "molecular-formula" or "ingredient-list"
                          or whatever.

                          [color=blue]
                          >and using with <select class="red".... >
                          >IE, FF interpreting correctly, but Opera not. Show only gray texts. Why ?
                          >
                          >Cezar
                          >[/color]


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