Modify Tooltip Styles

[Michael]

Is there any way to modify the tooltip that shows up when using alt or title
in <img> or <a> tags? I don't like the stock tooltip, the boring yellow box.
I would like to make it a little more friendly. But I'm thinking that this
is part of the browser's hardcoded information. Am I wrong?

[David Dorward]

Re: Modify Tooltip Styles

Michael wrote:
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> Is there any way to modify the tooltip that shows up when using alt or
> title in <img> or <a> tags?[/color]

Short answer: No
Long answer: Use JavaScript to remove the attribute on mouseover and display
a styled piece of HTML instead. Be _very_ careful if you decide to do this
with the alt attribute, it isn't designed to be rendered as a tooltip and
removing it onmouseover could cause problems for users of (for instance)
screen readers.
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> I don't like the stock tooltip, the boring
> yellow box.[/color]

Yellow? Its off-white! (Actually, it is a system preference, configure your
system to display tooltips differently if you want).
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> I would like to make it a little more friendly. But I'm
> thinking that this is part of the browser's hardcoded information. Am I
> wrong?[/color]

Depends on the browser. IE/win32 for example takes it from the Windows
system settings.

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[Evertjan.]

Re: Modify Tooltip Styles

Michael wrote on 11 mei 2004 in
comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets:[color=blue]
> Is there any way to modify the tooltip that shows up when using alt or
> title in <img> or <a> tags? I don't like the stock tooltip, the boring
> yellow box. I would like to make it a little more friendly. But I'm
> thinking that this is part of the browser's hardcoded information. Am
> I wrong?[/color]

<http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/>

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[Michael]

Re: Modify Tooltip Styles

Thank you both for your responses. And thank you Evertjan for the link. That
is a cool idea, exactly what I was looking for. I'll try that out.

Michael

"Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoo rt@interxnl.net > wrote in message
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> Michael wrote on 11 mei 2004 in
> comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets:[color=green]
> > Is there any way to modify the tooltip that shows up when using alt or
> > title in <img> or <a> tags? I don't like the stock tooltip, the boring
> > yellow box. I would like to make it a little more friendly. But I'm
> > thinking that this is part of the browser's hardcoded information. Am
> > I wrong?[/color]
>
> <http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/>
>
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> Evertjan.
> The Netherlands.
> (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)[/color]

[kchayka]

Re: Modify Tooltip Styles

Evertjan. wrote:
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> Michael wrote on 11 mei 2004 in
> comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets:[color=green]
>> Is there any way to modify the tooltip that shows up when using alt or
>> title in <img> or <a> tags? I don't like the stock tooltip, the boring
>> yellow box.[/color]
>
> <http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/>[/color]

Ugh, overlib

This thing is horrible from a usability standpoint.

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[Vladdy]

Re: Modify Tooltip Styles

kchayka wrote:
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> Evertjan. wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>Michael wrote on 11 mei 2004 in
>>comp.infosyst ems.www.authoring.stylesheets:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Is there any way to modify the tooltip that shows up when using alt or
>>>title in <img> or <a> tags? I don't like the stock tooltip, the boring
>>>yellow box.[/color]
>>
>><http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/>[/color]
>
>
> Ugh, overlib
>
> This thing is horrible from a usability standpoint.
>[/color]
What about www.klproductions.com/kltooltips.html


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[Michael]

Re: Modify Tooltip Styles

"Vladdy" <vlad@klproduct ions.com> wrote in message
news:Qwdoc.3066 3$L8.22119@nwrd ny02.gnilink.ne t...[color=blue]
> kchayka wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Evertjan. wrote:
> >
> >[color=darkred]
> >>Michael wrote on 11 mei 2004 in
> >>comp.infosyst ems.www.authoring.stylesheets:
> >>
> >>>Is there any way to modify the tooltip that shows up when using alt or
> >>>title in <img> or <a> tags? I don't like the stock tooltip, the boring
> >>>yellow box.
> >>
> >><http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/>[/color]
> >
> >
> > Ugh, overlib
> >
> > This thing is horrible from a usability standpoint.[/color][/color]

I see what you mean, now. I've been testing it out, and being that I'm not a
javascript expert, it's not as easy as I read it to be.
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> >[/color]
> What about www.klproductions.com/kltooltips.html[/color]

$65 for a single license? Are you out your mind?
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>
>
> --
> Vladdy
> http://www.klproductions.com[/color]

[Vladdy]

Re: Modify Tooltip Styles

Michael wrote:
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> "Vladdy" <vlad@klproduct ions.com> wrote in message
> news:Qwdoc.3066 3$L8.22119@nwrd ny02.gnilink.ne t...
>[color=green]
>>kchayka wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Evertjan. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Michael wrote on 11 mei 2004 in
>>>>comp.infosy stems.www.authoring.stylesheets:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Is there any way to modify the tooltip that shows up when using alt or
>>>>>title in <img> or <a> tags? I don't like the stock tooltip, the boring
>>>>>yellow box.
>>>>
>>>><http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ugh, overlib
>>>
>>>This thing is horrible from a usability standpoint.[/color][/color]
>
>
> I see what you mean, now. I've been testing it out, and being that I'm not a
> javascript expert, it's not as easy as I read it to be.
>
>[color=green]
>>What about www.klproductions.com/kltooltips.html[/color]
>
>
> $65 for a single license? Are you out your mind?
>[/color]

You are welcome to go ahead with overlib and spend couple of days
polluting your code with "onmouseove rs" and "onmouseout "s, but I guess
your time is of little value... *rolleyes*

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[Evertjan.]

Re: Modify Tooltip Styles

Vladdy wrote on 12 mei 2004 in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets:
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> You are welcome to go ahead with overlib and spend couple of days
> polluting your code with "onmouseove rs" and "onmouseout "s, but I guess
> your time is of little value... *rolleyes*[/color]

I use overlib for years now.

With little serverside [asp] coding your precious time can be drasticly
reduced:

<a
<%=overlib("Thi s is an overlib tooltip,<br>for sure!")%>
href="..">
go there</a>

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[Alan J. Flavell]

Re: Modify Tooltip Styles

On Wed, 12 May 2004, Evertjan. wrote:
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> With little serverside [asp] coding your precious time can be drasticly
> reduced:[/color]

What are the consequences for the cacheability of your served pages?

[Evertjan.]

Re: Modify Tooltip Styles

Alan J. Flavell wrote on 12 mei 2004 in
comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets:
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> On Wed, 12 May 2004, Evertjan. wrote:
>[color=green]
>> With little serverside [asp] coding your precious time can be drasticly
>> reduced:[/color]
>
> What are the consequences for the cacheability of your served pages?[/color]

they are fine, that is none.

... eh, what the heck do yo mean?



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[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Re: Modify Tooltip Styles

/Vladdy/:
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> You are welcome to go ahead with overlib and spend couple of days
> polluting your code with "onmouseove rs" and "onmouseout "s, but I guess
> your time is of little value... *rolleyes*[/color]

One could assign just classes to the link elements and an
initialization script excuted 'onload' the document to scan and
assign the necessary event handlers.

Of course one would "loose" all those fancy "HTML and caption
content features" because all the content needed would be get from
the 'title' attributes (no other standard one to use), but if one
wants such features they probably would be for a limited amount of
link elements where one could afford to put the extra event handlers
markup.

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[kchayka]

Re: Modify Tooltip Styles

Vladdy wrote:
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> kchayka wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Evertjan. wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>><http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/>[/color]
>>
>> Ugh, overlib
>>
>> This thing is horrible from a usability standpoint.
>>[/color]
> What about www.klproductions.com/kltooltips.html[/color]

I haven't seen this used anywhere except in their own demo, so I can
only go by their examples. For simple Title tooltips, it appears to
degrade well when JS is disabled. However, it depends on JS for showing
"blocks of HTML", as in the last example before their pricing info. In
that example, it encourages creating an inaccessible, unintuitive
navigation mechanism. That is not so good.

BTW, I have seen overlib many times, and I curse it pretty much every
time I see it. It's another reason to browse with JS disabled. :)

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