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  • Bon Bon

    How To: Use CSS Properly




    Check out the great menus that show great use of heavy CSS

    Bon Bo
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  • Barbara de Zoete

    #2
    Re: How To: Use CSS Properly

    Bon Bon wrote:[color=blue]
    > http://css.maxdesign.invalid/listamaniac/
    >
    > Check out the great menus that show great use of heavy CSS.[/color]
    [color=blue]
    > Posted via http://www.forum4designers.com[/color]

    This is it for that 'forum': Ploink and a good dau to all of you.

    --

    Barbara




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    • Harlan Messinger

      #3
      Re: How To: Use CSS Properly


      "Barbara de Zoete" <b_de_zoete@hot mail.com> wrote in message
      news:bv3kau$nuo gr$1@ID-52872.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
      > Bon Bon wrote:[color=green]
      > > http://css.maxdesign.invalid/listamaniac/
      > >
      > > Check out the great menus that show great use of heavy CSS.[/color]
      >[color=green]
      > > Posted via http://www.forum4designers.com[/color]
      >
      > This is it for that 'forum': Ploink and a good dau to all of you.[/color]

      Two or three people have complained about them here in the last couple of
      days, but I don't see what the problem is. What's going on?

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      • Barbara de Zoete

        #4
        Re: How To: Use CSS Properly

        Harlan Messinger wrote:
        [color=blue]
        > "Barbara de Zoete" <b_de_zoete@hot mail.com> wrote in message
        > news:bv3kau$nuo gr$1@ID-52872.news.uni-berlin.de...
        >[color=green][color=darkred]
        >>>Posted via http://www.forum4designers.com[/color]
        >>
        >>This is it for that 'forum': Ploink and a good dau to all of you.[/color]
        >
        > Two or three people have complained about them here in the last couple of
        > days, but I don't see what the problem is. What's going on?[/color]

        Cannot speak for the others, but, _for_me_ I dislike the length of the
        posts added because of all the unnecessary links. Ik feel like the added
        links are spamming the group involved.

        Besides that, the poster through this 'forum' has no clue to where
        his/her message goes and therefore doesn't know what is regarded as
        'usual behaviour'. Usual being not topposting, not spamming, using a sig
        separator, including relevant lines from previous post in thread,
        reading previous messages, reading the FAQ, searching Google for
        possible previous discussion about topic etcetera.

        That's why I don't want to see them any more. Their posts irritate me.

        --

        Barbara




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        • Steve Sundberg

          #5
          Re: How To: Use CSS Properly

          On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:32:30 +0100, Barbara de Zoete
          <b_de_zoete@hot mail.com> wrote:
          [color=blue]
          >
          >Cannot speak for the others, but, _for_me_ I dislike the length of the
          >posts added because of all the unnecessary links. Ik feel like the added
          >links are spamming the group involved.
          >
          >Besides that, the poster through this 'forum' has no clue to where
          >his/her message goes and therefore doesn't know what is regarded as
          >'usual behaviour'. Usual being not topposting, not spamming, using a sig
          >separator, including relevant lines from previous post in thread,
          >reading previous messages, reading the FAQ, searching Google for
          >possible previous discussion about topic etcetera.[/color]

          I'm not defending the action but it seems that your main disagreement
          ("... the poster through this 'forum' has no clue to where
          his/her message goes ...") is not really valid.

          Backtracking to the posted link would demonstrate that that particular
          forum is, in reality, a posting of the
          comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets newsgroup. Looks to me like
          the forum is a web-based interface for Usenet, much like a Dejavu or
          Google interface. Posting anything at
          http://www.forum4designers.com/forum29.html will result in it being
          posted here, and vice-versa.


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          • Neal

            #6
            Re: How To: Use CSS Properly

            On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:32:30 +0100, Barbara de Zoete
            <b_de_zoete@hot mail.com> wrote:
            [color=blue]
            > Besides that, the poster through this 'forum' has no clue to where
            > his/her message goes and therefore doesn't know what is regarded as
            > 'usual behaviour'.[/color]

            From http://www.forum4designers.com/index.php :

            "Convenient web based access to our favorite web design Usenet groups"

            It would seem that those who do not know that this forum is a Usenet
            portal cannot read.

            At any rate, I wonder why anyone would choose this forum over simply
            accessing ciwas throgh their newsgroup client.

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            • Matthias Gutfeldt

              #7
              Re: How To: Use CSS Properly

              Neal wrote:[color=blue]
              > On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:32:30 +0100, Barbara de Zoete
              > <b_de_zoete@hot mail.com> wrote:
              >[color=green]
              >> Besides that, the poster through this 'forum' has no clue to where
              >> his/her message goes and therefore doesn't know what is regarded as
              >> 'usual behaviour'.[/color]
              >
              >
              > From http://www.forum4designers.com/index.php :
              >
              > "Convenient web based access to our favorite web design Usenet groups"
              >
              > It would seem that those who do not know that this forum is a Usenet
              > portal cannot read.[/color]

              Nah, the message was added just a couple days ago. Probably because of
              all the complaints. But of course that doesn't tell the forum user how
              to behave properly.

              [color=blue]
              > At any rate, I wonder why anyone would choose this forum over simply
              > accessing ciwas throgh their newsgroup client.[/color]

              Indeed.


              Matthias

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              • Harlan Messinger

                #8
                Re: How To: Use CSS Properly

                Neal <neal413@spamrc n.com> wrote:
                [color=blue]
                >On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:32:30 +0100, Barbara de Zoete
                ><b_de_zoete@ho tmail.com> wrote:
                >[color=green]
                >> Besides that, the poster through this 'forum' has no clue to where
                >> his/her message goes and therefore doesn't know what is regarded as
                >> 'usual behaviour'.[/color]
                >
                > From http://www.forum4designers.com/index.php :
                >
                >"Convenient web based access to our favorite web design Usenet groups"
                >
                >It would seem that those who do not know that this forum is a Usenet
                >portal cannot read.
                >
                >At any rate, I wonder why anyone would choose this forum over simply
                >accessing ciwas throgh their newsgroup client.[/color]

                It's my impression that most people have no idea what Usenet,
                newsgroups, or newsreaders are. If the the Internet is a Marx Brothers
                movie, and Web, e-mail, and IRC are Groucho, Chico, and Harpo, then
                Usenet is Zeppo.

                --
                Harlan Messinger
                Remove the first dot from my e-mail address.
                Veuillez ôter le premier point de mon adresse de courriel.

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                • Berislav Lopac

                  #9
                  Re: How To: Use CSS Properly

                  Harlan Messinger wrote:[color=blue]
                  > If the the Internet is a Marx Brothers
                  > movie, and Web, e-mail, and IRC are Groucho, Chico, and Harpo, then
                  > Usenet is Zeppo.[/color]

                  I am not a fan of using quotes in sig, but you just gave me a perfect one...

                  Berislav


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                  • jake

                    #10
                    Re: How To: Use CSS Properly

                    In message <bv3tgi$nm411$1 @ID-52872.news.uni-berlin.de>, Barbara de
                    Zoete <b_de_zoete@hot mail.com> writes[color=blue]
                    >Harlan Messinger wrote:
                    >[color=green]
                    >> "Barbara de Zoete" <b_de_zoete@hot mail.com> wrote in message
                    >> news:bv3kau$nuo gr$1@ID-52872.news.uni-berlin.de...
                    >>[color=darkred]
                    >>>>Posted via http://www.forum4designers.com
                    >>>
                    >>>This is it for that 'forum': Ploink and a good dau to all of you.[/color]
                    >> Two or three people have complained about them here in the last
                    >>couple of
                    >> days, but I don't see what the problem is. What's going on?[/color]
                    >
                    >Cannot speak for the others, but, _for_me_ I dislike the length of the
                    >posts added because of all the unnecessary links. Ik feel like the
                    >added links are spamming the group involved.
                    >
                    >Besides that, the poster through this 'forum' has no clue to where
                    >his/her message goes and therefore doesn't know what is regarded as
                    >'usual behaviour'. Usual being not topposting, not spamming, using a
                    >sig separator, including relevant lines from previous post in thread,
                    >reading previous messages, reading the FAQ, searching Google for
                    >possible previous discussion about topic etcetera.[/color]

                    ......... sounds a bit 'elitist' to me.[color=blue]
                    >
                    >That's why I don't want to see them any more. Their posts irritate me.
                    >[/color]
                    ..... and I'm sure they'll be losing sleep over your decision ;-)

                    --
                    Jake

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                    • Barbara de Zoete

                      #11
                      Re: How To: Use CSS Properly

                      jake wrote:
                      [color=blue]
                      > In message <bv3tgi$nm411$1 @ID-52872.news.uni-berlin.de>, Barbara de
                      > Zoete <b_de_zoete@hot mail.com> writes[color=green]
                      >> That's why I don't want to see them any more. Their posts irritate me.
                      >>[/color]
                      > ..... and I'm sure they'll be losing sleep over your decision ;-)[/color]

                      I just cared to answer a question. That's all I did.

                      --

                      Barbara




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                      • PeterMcC

                        #12
                        OT forum4designers [was Re: How To: Use CSS Properly]

                        jake <jake@gododdin. demon.co.uk> wrote in
                        <r$HQdeU6npFAFw k7@gododdin.dem on.co.uk>
                        [color=blue]
                        > In message <bv3tgi$nm411$1 @ID-52872.news.uni-berlin.de>, Barbara de
                        > Zoete <b_de_zoete@hot mail.com> writes[color=green]
                        >> Harlan Messinger wrote:
                        >>[color=darkred]
                        >>> "Barbara de Zoete" <b_de_zoete@hot mail.com> wrote in message
                        >>> news:bv3kau$nuo gr$1@ID-52872.news.uni-berlin.de...
                        >>>
                        >>>>> Posted via http://www.forum4designers.com
                        >>>>
                        >>>> This is it for that 'forum': Ploink and a good dau to all of you.
                        >>> Two or three people have complained about them here in the last
                        >>> couple of
                        >>> days, but I don't see what the problem is. What's going on?[/color]
                        >>
                        >> Cannot speak for the others, but, _for_me_ I dislike the length of
                        >> the posts added because of all the unnecessary links. Ik feel like
                        >> the added links are spamming the group involved.
                        >>
                        >> Besides that, the poster through this 'forum' has no clue to where
                        >> his/her message goes and therefore doesn't know what is regarded as
                        >> 'usual behaviour'. Usual being not topposting, not spamming, using a
                        >> sig separator, including relevant lines from previous post in thread,
                        >> reading previous messages, reading the FAQ, searching Google for
                        >> possible previous discussion about topic etcetera.[/color]
                        >
                        > ........ sounds a bit 'elitist' to me.[color=green]
                        >>
                        >> That's why I don't want to see them any more. Their posts irritate
                        >> me.
                        >>[/color]
                        > .... and I'm sure they'll be losing sleep over your decision ;-)[/color]

                        I woudn't know about that but it has obliged them to change the way they
                        describe their site - it's now "Convenient web based access to our favorite
                        web design Usenet groups."

                        I'm surprised that they think that there's anything more convenient for
                        accessing Usenet groups than Usenet client software.

                        I think it's a little less than honest that they are telling their users
                        that they have to register before they can post when that's only true within
                        the limited setting of their web site - I'm not registered and yet I have a
                        feeling that this post will appear there.

                        --
                        PeterMcC
                        If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
                        inappropriate or offensive in any way,
                        please ignore it and accept my apologies.

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                        • jake

                          #13
                          Re: OT forum4designers [was Re: How To: Use CSS Properly]

                          In message <IkxRb.19364$tQ 6.1083198@wards .force9.net>, PeterMcC
                          <peter@mccourt. org.uk> writes[color=blue]
                          >jake <jake@gododdin. demon.co.uk> wrote in
                          ><r$HQdeU6npFAF wk7@gododdin.de mon.co.uk>
                          >[color=green]
                          >> In message <bv3tgi$nm411$1 @ID-52872.news.uni-berlin.de>, Barbara de
                          >> Zoete <b_de_zoete@hot mail.com> writes[color=darkred]
                          >>> Harlan Messinger wrote:
                          >>>
                          >>>> "Barbara de Zoete" <b_de_zoete@hot mail.com> wrote in message
                          >>>> news:bv3kau$nuo gr$1@ID-52872.news.uni-berlin.de...
                          >>>>
                          >>>>>> Posted via http://www.forum4designers.com
                          >>>>>
                          >>>>> This is it for that 'forum': Ploink and a good dau to all of you.
                          >>>> Two or three people have complained about them here in the last
                          >>>> couple of
                          >>>> days, but I don't see what the problem is. What's going on?
                          >>>
                          >>> Cannot speak for the others, but, _for_me_ I dislike the length of
                          >>> the posts added because of all the unnecessary links. Ik feel like
                          >>> the added links are spamming the group involved.
                          >>>
                          >>> Besides that, the poster through this 'forum' has no clue to where
                          >>> his/her message goes and therefore doesn't know what is regarded as
                          >>> 'usual behaviour'. Usual being not topposting, not spamming, using a
                          >>> sig separator, including relevant lines from previous post in thread,
                          >>> reading previous messages, reading the FAQ, searching Google for
                          >>> possible previous discussion about topic etcetera.[/color]
                          >>
                          >> ........ sounds a bit 'elitist' to me.[color=darkred]
                          >>>
                          >>> That's why I don't want to see them any more. Their posts irritate
                          >>> me.
                          >>>[/color]
                          >> .... and I'm sure they'll be losing sleep over your decision ;-)[/color]
                          >
                          >I woudn't know about that but it has obliged them to change the way they
                          >describe their site - it's now "Convenient web based access to our favorite
                          >web design Usenet groups."
                          >
                          >I'm surprised that they think that there's anything more convenient for
                          >accessing Usenet groups than Usenet client software.
                          >
                          >I think it's a little less than honest that they are telling their users
                          >that they have to register before they can post when that's only true within
                          >the limited setting of their web site - I'm not registered and yet I have a
                          >feeling that this post will appear there.
                          >[/color]
                          You're right, of course. In fact I'm pretty sure that it's not the only
                          one as I've seen my postings on NGs turning up on other forums.

                          However, I'm rather keen that regulars in the NGs don't pass on their
                          personal dislike of what's happening onto the poor unfortunates that are
                          posting through these forums ;-)

                          Education is the key.

                          regards.
                          --
                          Jake

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                          • Neal

                            #14
                            Re: How To: Use CSS Properly

                            On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:03:54 +0000, jake <jake@gododdin. demon.co.uk> wrote:
                            [color=blue]
                            > ........ sounds a bit 'elitist' to me.[color=green]
                            >>
                            >> That's why I don't want to see them any more. Their posts irritate me.
                            >>[/color]
                            > .... and I'm sure they'll be losing sleep over your decision ;-)
                            >[/color]

                            Expecting people to log in and be a member of a website to use a free
                            Usenet channel is not making it more elite? If all the users over there
                            know they could have gotten all this and more without having to 'sign up',
                            that's breaking down unnecessary elitism to me.

                            Also - frustration with top-posting and not following other Usenet
                            conventions isn't elitist anymore than being pissed at the jerk who's
                            sitting in the intersection preventing you from getting to work on time is
                            elitist.

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                            • Brian

                              #15
                              Re: OT forum4designers [was Re: How To: Use CSS Properly]

                              jake wrote:[color=blue]
                              >
                              > In fact I'm pretty sure that it's not the only one as I've seen my
                              > postings on NGs turning up on other forums.[/color]

                              I've come across 3 after a very quick search. I'm sure there are more.
                              It appears to be the latest craze.
                              [color=blue]
                              > I'm rather keen that regulars in the NGs don't pass on their
                              > personal dislike of what's happening onto the poor unfortunates
                              > that are posting through these forums ;-)
                              >
                              > Education is the key.[/color]

                              At some point, users must take it upon themselves to learn the proper
                              behavior of any forum, web-based, usenet, list, or otherwise. The
                              problem with the web forums is that they provide no help to their
                              users, and the interface does not lend itself to proper posting. I've
                              looked through topics, and they are not threaded. No wonder replies
                              from its users appear at random places in the thread.

                              --
                              Brian (follow directions in my address to email me)


                              Seen on the web:
                              This page best viewed by coming over to my office and looking at it on
                              my monitor.

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