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  • Lauri Raittila

    #16
    Re: Float Question

    In article Peter Kennedy wrote:[color=blue]
    > Lauri,
    >
    > Thanks.[/color]

    I hope this means my fix worked.
    [color=blue]
    > However, I must confess that I don't follow you. Which navigation is
    > not working ?[/color]

    Well, it is sometimes. But it would be much better, if you replaced
    href=javascript :; with urls from the dropdown, if they are same. Would
    make much more sence. If they aren't same, I was unable to notice. And
    having two different navigation systems for same hierarchy of links is
    very strange and unintuitive.
    [color=blue]
    > It all works as far as I can see and nobody, ie no clients,
    > has ever complained before.[/color]

    Well, clients don't complain in Internet when site is obviously wrong.
    They either try to fix it in their end, or go away. And when fixing
    problem in client side page by page may be impossible for 80% of people,
    or even more. (of course, it might work good enaugh in first place, but
    why take risk, when none is needed)
    [color=blue]
    > By "image links", do you mean the 4 images
    > across the top right hand side of the page ?[/color]

    No, I mean those images that have those dropdown menues, on right on
    dropdown field. They have that stupid javascript:... links instead of
    real.
    [color=blue]
    > And which white space ?[/color]

    Some white space that is there whitout reason and makes my window scroll
    horizontally.
    [color=blue]
    > Regarding missing alt tributes, okay,
    > but I never really seen the point in them anyway.[/color]

    If you happen to have no-good connection, it is usefull to only load
    necessary images. And of course bunch of other reasons others allredy
    mentioned.
    [color=blue]
    > And unreadable font,[/color]

    xx-small would be, unless I had minimum font size. (spotted from your
    CSS) People that buy sheds are often older folk, without good vision, let
    alone skill to make font bigger. If you think normal font size is too
    big, change your browser setting.
    [color=blue]
    > lousy text images ?[/color]

    About all images with text exept heading. (heading was nice)
    [color=blue]
    > Where ? I have tested the site on at least 5 different PCs -
    > desktops, laptops, flat screens, CRTs etc.[/color]

    Did you try it on low end screen, with 72dpi? You have nearly no anti
    aliasing. Of course they are so small that you can't see difference in
    high end stuff. That is other problem, there is no way to zoom images
    that are too smal to read. (or, to be correct, they will look ugly when
    zoomed)

    As better anti-aliasing is about only reason to have text in images, I
    think you shoudl use text instead.
    [color=blue]
    > What are you using to view the site - a Mac
    > I don't have access to a Mac so it would be interesting to know.[/color]

    Opera 7.22(pre-release) on WinME.
    [color=blue]
    > "Lauri Raittila" <lauri@raittila .cjb.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
    > [snip][/color]

    It's unnecessary and bad habit to add full reply under reply.

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    • Lauri Raittila

      #17
      Re: Float Question

      In article James Bursa wrote:[color=blue]
      > Peter Kennedy wrote:
      >[color=green]
      > > .marginleft{
      > > float: left; */not applied to the NN4.7 stylesheet/*
      > > margin: 0 10px 10px 0;
      > > }[/color]
      >
      > You must specify a width if you use float (see the spec).[/color]

      He's floating image, so he don't need to. Image is replaced element. See
      CSS2 spec for more information (don't look 2.1WD, as IIRC, it doesn't
      require width anymore)



      Hint: don't say what spec say unless you checked spec again. (and then
      you can just as easily post url to spec, as you have already found it)

      --
      Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr> <http://www.iki.fi/zwak/fonts>
      Saapi lähettää meiliä, jos aihe ei liity ryhmään, tai on yksityinen
      tjsp., mutta älä lähetä samaa viestiä meilitse ja ryhmään.

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      • Alan J. Flavell

        #18
        Re: Float Question

        On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Lauri Raittila wrote:
        [color=blue]
        > Well, it is sometimes. But it would be much better, if you replaced
        > href=javascript :; with urls from the dropdown,[/color]

        Since this seems to be a javascript-related question, maybe the hon
        Usenaut would find it useful to be directed to a Javascript FAQ on the
        topic? Namely, http://jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ4_24
        [color=blue][color=green]
        > > It all works as far as I can see and nobody, ie no clients,
        > > has ever complained before.[/color][/color]

        That sounds an awfully familiar refrain.
        [color=blue]
        > Well, clients don't complain in Internet when site is obviously wrong.
        > They either try to fix it in their end, or go away.[/color]

        To which one might add that it's the responsiblity of the web
        specialist to call the client's attention to (potential) problems.

        This idea that if the client (who presumably doesn't know too much
        about the properties of the web etc., though they might know a lot
        about visual design) doesn't express dissatisfaction with some aspect
        of the design, then one can assume it's fit for purpose (irrespective
        of the final users!), seems to be a bit askew. After all, you'd
        expect your architect and builder to ask your views on certain aspects
        of your new house, but you wouldn't expect them to rely on you, the
        client, for satisfying the requirements of building codes, planning
        regulations etc., the selection of suitable building materials etc.

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        • Bo

          #19
          Re: Float Question



          "Steve Pugh" <steve@pugh.net > wrote in message
          news:a3rkqv0odb 159drerrclb2glo 6q3vjrdrg@4ax.c om...[color=blue]
          > "Peter Kennedy" <peterkennedy@n ope.com> wrote:
          >[color=green][color=darkred]
          > >>> http://www.gardenserre.com/elite_isolees_homecss.htm[/color][/color]
          >[color=green]
          > >Thanks. However, I must confess that I don't follow you. Which navigation[/color][/color]
          is[color=blue][color=green]
          > >not working ?[/color]
          >
          > Turn off JavaScript and see if the dropdown menu works.
          > Or the four links Elite, ACD, etc.
          >
          > They don't do they?
          >[color=green]
          > > Regarding missing alt tributes, okay,
          > >but I never really seen the point in them anyway.[/color]
          >
          > Take a sharp pencil. Stab it in your eyes. Maybe then you'll get the
          > point.[/color]


          What a putz. Why don't you try to help the poster? It's people like you who
          give CSS and standards a bad name.

          Peter, stop by one of our newsgroups and we'll help you make your page
          valid, accessible, and have it working correctly in Mozilla.


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          • Peter Kennedy

            #20
            Re: Float Question


            "Bo" <asparber@adelp hia.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
            R1Oqb.187$9l4.1 00158@news2.new s.adelphia.net. ..[color=blue]
            >
            >
            > "Steve Pugh" <steve@pugh.net > wrote in message
            > news:a3rkqv0odb 159drerrclb2glo 6q3vjrdrg@4ax.c om...[color=green]
            > > "Peter Kennedy" <peterkennedy@n ope.com> wrote:
            > >[color=darkred]
            > > >>> http://www.gardenserre.com/elite_isolees_homecss.htm[/color]
            > >[color=darkred]
            > > >Thanks. However, I must confess that I don't follow you. Which[/color][/color][/color]
            navigation[color=blue]
            > is[color=green][color=darkred]
            > > >not working ?[/color]
            > >
            > > Turn off JavaScript and see if the dropdown menu works.
            > > Or the four links Elite, ACD, etc.
            > >
            > > They don't do they?
            > >[color=darkred]
            > > > Regarding missing alt tributes, okay,
            > > >but I never really seen the point in them anyway.[/color]
            > >
            > > Take a sharp pencil. Stab it in your eyes. Maybe then you'll get the
            > > point.[/color]
            >
            >
            > What a putz. Why don't you try to help the poster? It's people like you[/color]
            who[color=blue]
            > give CSS and standards a bad name.
            >
            > Peter, stop by one of our newsgroups and we'll help you make your page
            > valid, accessible, and have it working correctly in Mozilla.
            >
            >
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            >[/color]

            Thanks Al. I'm now subscribed !

            Peter


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            • Brian

              #21
              Re: Float Question

              Bo wrote:[color=blue]
              > "Steve Pugh" <steve@pugh.net > wrote in message
              > news:a3rkqv0odb 159drerrclb2glo 6q3vjrdrg@4ax.c om...
              >[color=green]
              >> "Peter Kennedy" <peterkennedy@n ope.com> wrote:
              >>[color=darkred]
              >>> Regarding missing alt tributes, okay, but I never really seen
              >>> the point in them anyway.[/color]
              >>
              >> Take a sharp pencil. Stab it in your eyes. Maybe then you'll get
              >> the point.[/color]
              >
              > What a putz.[/color]

              <sarcasm>Yeah . Insults will help the situation.</sarcasm>
              [color=blue]
              > Why don't you try to help the poster?[/color]

              He did. Alt text is necessary for blind users (among others).
              [color=blue]
              > Peter, stop by one of our newsgroups and we'll help you make your
              > page valid, accessible, and have it working correctly in Mozilla.[/color]

              Why don't you help him right here?

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