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  • Tom

    How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold your browser captive until you install their software?

    How do we get out of the browser infinite loop quicksand when we navigate
    to web pages designed to lock us in and force us to hit the "pay me" button
    (whatever they want to force you to do)?

    These are just a sample of nasty quicksand web pages I've run into which
    lock your browser into a loop and won't let you get out until you hit the
    "install" or "run" or "OK" button... (whatever it is they want you to do).










    etc.

    When you navigate to these quicksand links, you can not get out of their
    infinite loop with your browser no matter what you do. I'm forced to
    control alt delete and kill the browser from the task manager ... but I ask
    ....

    Is there a more graceful way, after the fact, to navigate away from
    quicksand domains which have a hold on your browser, other than control alt
    deleting the browser process?
  • Bear Bottoms

    #2
    Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold yourbrowser captive until you install their software?

    On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:04:02 -0500, Tom <twilson3@hotma il.comwrote:
    How do we get out of the browser infinite loop quicksand when we navigate
    to web pages designed to lock us in and force us to hit the "pay me"
    button
    (whatever they want to force you to do)?
    >
    These are just a sample of nasty quicksand web pages I've run into which
    lock your browser into a loop and won't let you get out until you hit the
    "install" or "run" or "OK" button... (whatever it is they want you to
    do).
    >
    >
    When you navigate to these quicksand links, you can not get out of their
    infinite loop with your browser no matter what you do. I'm forced to
    control alt delete and kill the browser from the task manager ... but I
    ask
    ...
    >
    Is there a more graceful way, after the fact, to navigate away from
    quicksand domains which have a hold on your browser, other than control
    alt
    deleting the browser process?
    Why not just close the tab/page? BTW, some of these links are dangerous to
    persons who would navigate to them out of curiosity. Not a good idea Tom.

    --
    Bear Bottoms
    Freeware website: http://bearware.info

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    • Bit Twister

      #3
      Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold yourbrowser captive until you install their software?

      On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:04:02 -0700, Tom wrote:
      How do we get out of the browser infinite loop quicksand when we navigate
      to web pages designed to lock us in and force us to hit the "pay me" button
      (whatever they want to force you to do)?
      download/install/run firefox 3.0.
      install NoScript Add On

      That blocks javascript which can hide in video/flash/gif/...
      from executing, some of which can be malware.


      install privoxy from http://www.privoxy.org/
      then add user.action rules from


      The add privoxy to firefox
      In firefox,
      Edit->Preference->Advanced
      Click Network tab
      Connection
      Settings button

      click Manual proxy configuration:
      HTTP Proxy: 127.0.0.1 Port: 8118
      SSL Proxy: 127.0.0.1 Port: 8118
      Be sure to clear the "No Proxy for" box
      Click OK
      Click Close

      Privoxy blocks add servers, which may have been cracked
      and are serving up malware.

      Check out first two of those sites you posted.


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      • Tom

        #4
        Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold your browser captive until you install their software?

        On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:14:37 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
        >Is there a more graceful way, after the fact, to navigate away from
        >quicksand domains which have a hold on your browser, other than control
        >alt
        >deleting the browser process?
        >
        Why not just close the tab/page?
        That's my whole point. You CAN NOT close the tab. It just won't close!
        In fact, you can't even navigate AWAY from the tab!

        What Firefox flaw are they taking advantage of that hijacks your browser
        and won't even let you close the tab or the browser or even switch to
        another tab. You're stuck in the quicksand and can't get out.

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        • Bear Bottoms

          #5
          Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold yourbrowser captive until you install their software?

          On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:06:32 -0500, Tom <twilson3@hotma il.comwrote:
          On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:14:37 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
          >
          >>Is there a more graceful way, after the fact, to navigate away from
          >>quicksand domains which have a hold on your browser, other than control
          >>alt
          >>deleting the browser process?
          >>
          >Why not just close the tab/page?
          >
          That's my whole point. You CAN NOT close the tab. It just won't close!
          In fact, you can't even navigate AWAY from the tab!
          >
          What Firefox flaw are they taking advantage of that hijacks your browser
          and won't even let you close the tab or the browser or even switch to
          another tab. You're stuck in the quicksand and can't get out.
          Can't help you there, I use Opera.

          --
          Bear Bottoms
          Freeware website: http://bearware.info

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          • Bear Bottoms

            #6
            Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold yourbrowser captive until you install their software?

            On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:50:54 -0500, Bit Twister
            <BitTwister@mou se-potato.comwrote :
            On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:04:02 -0700, Tom wrote:
            >How do we get out of the browser infinite loop quicksand when we
            >navigate
            >to web pages designed to lock us in and force us to hit the "pay me"
            >button
            >(whatever they want to force you to do)?
            >
            download/install/run firefox 3.0.
            install NoScript Add On
            >
            That blocks javascript which can hide in video/flash/gif/...
            from executing, some of which can be malware.
            >
            >
            install privoxy from http://www.privoxy.org/
            then add user.action rules from

            >
            The add privoxy to firefox
            In firefox,
            Edit->Preference->Advanced
            Click Network tab
            Connection
            Settings button
            >
            click Manual proxy configuration:
            HTTP Proxy: 127.0.0.1 Port: 8118
            SSL Proxy: 127.0.0.1 Port: 8118
            Be sure to clear the "No Proxy for" box
            Click OK
            Click Close
            >
            Privoxy blocks add servers, which may have been cracked
            and are serving up malware.
            >
            Check out first two of those sites you posted.

            http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/d...us-scanner.com
            Or just use Opera!

            --
            Bear Bottoms
            Freeware website: http://bearware.info

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            • Gabriele Neukam

              #7
              Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold your browser captive until you install their software?

              On this special day, Tom wrote:
              That's my whole point. You CAN NOT close the tab. It just won't close!
              In fact, you can't even navigate AWAY from the tab!
              Solution #1: Disable Java/JavaScript
              Solution #2: Disable automatic forwarding. This will make the backup
              button functional again.
              Solution #3: Use a browser different from the Internet Explorer, ie one
              of the Mozillas or Opera. They cannot be manipulated via ActiveX
              commands.


              Gabriele Neukam

              Gabriele.Spamfi ghter.Neukam@t-online.de

              --
              Reality is something, people cannot cope with.
              If they could, they would not play.


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              • Sherman Pendley

                #8
                Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold your browser captive until you install their software?

                Tom <twilson3@hotma il.comwrites:
                How do we get out of the browser infinite loop quicksand when we navigate
                to web pages designed to lock us in and force us to hit the "pay me" button
                (whatever they want to force you to do)?
                Patient: Doctor, it hurts when I do this.
                Doctor: Then don't do that.

                sherm--

                --
                My blog: http://shermspace.blogspot.com
                Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net

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                • David H. Lipman

                  #9
                  Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold your browser captive until you install their software?

                  From: "Tom" <twilson3@hotma il.com>

                  | How do we get out of the browser infinite loop quicksand when we navigate
                  | to web pages designed to lock us in and force us to hit the "pay me" button
                  | (whatever they want to force you to do)?

                  | These are just a sample of nasty quicksand web pages I've run into which
                  | lock your browser into a loop and won't let you get out until you hit the
                  | "install" or "run" or "OK" button... (whatever it is they want you to do).

                  < snip >

                  | etc.

                  | When you navigate to these quicksand links, you can not get out of their
                  | infinite loop with your browser no matter what you do. I'm forced to
                  | control alt delete and kill the browser from the task manager ... but I ask
                  | ...

                  | Is there a more graceful way, after the fact, to navigate away from
                  | quicksand domains which have a hold on your browser, other than control alt
                  | deleting the browser process?

                  If you post possibly malicious web sites it is incumbant upon you to obfuscate the URL to
                  make sure said URL is NOT clickable such as...

                  hxxp://antivirus2009-scanner.com

                  This will protect others from possibly getting infected.

                  --
                  Dave

                  Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


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                  • Tom

                    #10
                    Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold your browser captive until you install their software?

                    On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:49:05 +0200, Gabriele Neukam wrote:
                    Solution #1: Disable Java/JavaScript
                    OK. But nothing else will work if you do that.
                    Solution #2: Disable automatic forwarding.
                    How?
                    Solution #3: Use a browser different from the Internet Explorer
                    I'm using Firefox 3.0 on WinXP and this quicksand effect certainly affects
                    the Mozilla browsers!

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                    • Tom

                      #11
                      Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold your browser captive until you install their software?

                      On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:15:23 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
                      Or just use Opera!
                      I'm confused. I thought Mozilla Firefox was "the safe" browser?
                      What's different about Opera with respect to these quicksand pages?









                      Can an Opera user try these pages with Opera to see if they're quicksanded
                      to let us know what's different about Opera than Firefox when it hits HTML
                      quicksand?

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                      • Roger Hunt

                        #12
                        Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold your browser captive until you install their software?

                        In article <zhqek.14183$xZ .563@nlpi070.nb dc.sbc.com>, Tom
                        <twilson3@hotma il.comwrites
                        >On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:15:23 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
                        >
                        >Or just use Opera!
                        >
                        >I'm confused. I thought Mozilla Firefox was "the safe" browser?
                        >What's different about Opera with respect to these quicksand pages?
                        >http://thecatalogfree.net
                        >http://www.spywareiso.com
                        >http://antivirus-scanner.com
                        >http://findyourlink.net
                        >http://www.findyourlink.net
                        >http://spywareiso2008.com
                        >http://www.immenseclips.com
                        >http://antivirus2009-scanner.com
                        >
                        >Can an Opera user try these pages with Opera to see if they're quicksanded
                        >to let us know what's different about Opera than Firefox when it hits HTML
                        >quicksand?
                        You're joking Shirley?
                        It would be noble and valiant if you were to install Opera and try for
                        yourself.
                        --
                        Roger Hunt

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                        • David E. Ross

                          #13
                          Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold your browsercaptive until you install their software?

                          On 7/13/2008 9:33 AM, Tom wrote:
                          On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:49:05 +0200, Gabriele Neukam wrote:
                          >
                          >Solution #1: Disable Java/JavaScript
                          OK. But nothing else will work if you do that.
                          >
                          >Solution #2: Disable automatic forwarding.
                          How?
                          >
                          >Solution #3: Use a browser different from the Internet Explorer
                          >
                          I'm using Firefox 3.0 on WinXP and this quicksand effect certainly affects
                          the Mozilla browsers!
                          For #1:

                          Install the PrefBar extension for Firefox. See
                          <http://prefbar.mozdev. org/>. Then setup a checkbox to enable and
                          disable Javascript. With Firefox 2 and SeaMonkey 1.1.10, the preference
                          variable is javascript.enab led. It's likely that didn't change for
                          Firefox 3.

                          With the PrefBar toolbar, you can easily switch between enabling and
                          disabling Javascript. Disable it when you hit "quicksand" .

                          Also, does not the Home button on your Personal toolbar work?

                          --

                          David E. Ross
                          <http://www.rossde.com/>.

                          Q: What's a President Bush cocktail?
                          A: Business on the rocks.

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                          • Bear Bottoms

                            #14
                            Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold yourbrowser captive until you install their software?

                            On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:44:42 -0500, Tom <twilson3@hotma il.comwrote:
                            On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:15:23 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
                            >
                            >Or just use Opera!
                            >
                            I'm confused. I thought Mozilla Firefox was "the safe" browser?
                            What's different about Opera with respect to these quicksand pages?








                            >
                            Can an Opera user try these pages with Opera to see if they're
                            quicksanded
                            to let us know what's different about Opera than Firefox when it hits
                            HTML
                            quicksand?
                            I tried them all, Opera alerts you to nefarious activity and you can
                            simply close the tab.

                            --
                            Bear Bottoms
                            Freeware website: http://bearware.info

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                            • Tom

                              #15
                              Re: How to navigate away from quicksand domains which hold your browser captive until you install their software?

                              On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:03:54 +0100, hummingbird wrote:
                              Afaik the only solution is to shut the browser down and
                              enter its name in your HOSTS file, so you never go there again.
                              Hummingbird has a great answer!

                              Here's what I did when I went to an HTML kwiksand domain just now on
                              Firefox 3.0 on WinXP with JavaScript and Java enabled ('cuz you need 'em
                              for other pages).

                              1. I opened a tab to http://thecatalogfree.net with Firefox 3.0 on WinXP
                              2. I tried to kill the tab -the html kwiksand prevented this
                              3. I tried to go to a new tab -the html kwiksand prevented this
                              4. I tried to kill firefox -the html kwiksand prevented this
                              5. Rather than kill the firefox process in the task manager ...
                              6. I now just type Start->Run->hosts and enter the domain
                              127.0.0.1 thecatalogfree. net
                              7. I then shift-reload my browser (to flush cache)
                              8. Voila! A shift-reload flushes cache & dumps the kwiksand page!

                              Note this one-time setup:
                              1. Copy hosts to host.txt and to hosts.bck
                              2. Start->Run->Regedit to add the following key-value pair:
                              HKLM\SOFTWARE\M icrosoft\Window s\CurrentVersio n\App Paths
                              hosts.exe = c:\windows\syst em32\drivers\et c\hosts.txt

                              Do this every time you are caught in HTML kwiksand!
                              1. Go to the web page http://thecatalogfree.net
                              2. You'll note you are stuck on that page forever
                              3. Rather than control alt delete kill the Firefox browser session ...
                              4. Just type Start -Run -hosts
                              5. Enter the domain into that hosts.txt file
                              127.0.0.1 thecatalogfree. net
                              6. Write the hosts.txt file to hosts (overwriting the hosts file)
                              8. Quick out of your text editing session (I used vim freeware)
                              9. Shift Reload your browser
                              10. The kwiksand web page will disappear!

                              Woo hoo! Hummingbird found the solution to HTML kwiksand!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

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