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  • Jacquie

    Error on page - why?

    hello- I am hoping someone can help me solve this mystery. My pages
    always say Done with error on page on the bottom. They appear fine on
    my computer but other people can't all see it on their computer. Also
    one of my pages is blank, I uploaded it and am not sure what the
    problem is. The code is all fine I think. Please look at the code if
    you can. You have to click on the bottom of the website to view code,
    thank u!!! www.nscadesign.ca/potvin all the pages are doing this! the
    blank page is www.nscadesign.ca/potvin/pages/print.html
    Much appreciate any help! Thank u Jacquie jpotvin77@hotma il.com
  • Philip Ronan

    #2
    Re: Error on page - why?

    On 26/7/04 3:25 pm, Jacquie wrote:
    [color=blue]
    > hello- I am hoping someone can help me solve this mystery. My pages
    > always say Done with error on page on the bottom. They appear fine on
    > my computer but other people can't all see it on their computer. Also
    > one of my pages is blank, I uploaded it and am not sure what the
    > problem is. The code is all fine I think. Please look at the code if
    > you can. You have to click on the bottom of the website to view code,
    > thank u!!! www.nscadesign.ca/potvin all the pages are doing this! the
    > blank page is www.nscadesign.ca/potvin/pages/print.html
    > Much appreciate any help! Thank u Jacquie jpotvin77@hotma il.com[/color]

    Try using forward slashes instead of backward slashes.

    And perhaps you should study HTML a bit more. In its current form, your site
    is about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

    It looks nice though :-)

    Phil
    --
    Philip Ronan
    phil.ronanzzz@v irgin.net
    (Please remove the "z"s if replying by email)


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    • Andrew Urquhart

      #3
      Re: Error on page - why?

      *Jacquie* wrote:[color=blue]
      > hello- I am hoping someone can help me solve this mystery. My pages
      > always say Done with error on page on the bottom. They appear fine on
      > my computer but other people can't all see it on their computer. Also
      > one of my pages is blank, I uploaded it and am not sure what the
      > problem is.[/color]

      [color=blue]
      > The code is all fine I think.[/color]

      Unfortunately it's not great markup, there are quite a few problems with
      it:
      http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...ign.ca/potvin/ it's
      inaccessible, there's no content for non-visual users including search
      engines, it's going to be difficult to maintain, ... Here's a somewhat
      random example of a graphic-rich site that doesn't seem to have those
      problems: http://www.cinnamon.nl/
      [color=blue]
      > Please look at the code if
      > you can. You have to click on the bottom of the website to view code,
      > thank u!!! www.nscadesign.ca/potvin all the pages are doing this![/color]

      Javascript function postamble() is called from a script block outside of
      the closing </html> tag, and that function has not been defined anywhere
      in the document.
      [color=blue]
      > the
      > blank page is www.nscadesign.ca/potvin/pages/print.html[/color]

      Every single closing tag has the wrong slash, every <\example> should be
      </example>
      --
      Andrew Urquhart
      - FAQ: www.htmlhelp.org/faq/html/
      - Archive: www.tinyurl.com/2zw7m (Google Groups)
      - Contact me: http://andrewu.co.uk/contact/


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      • Neal

        #4
        Re: Error on page - why?

        On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:46:18 +0100, Philip Ronan
        <phil.ronanzzz@ virgin.net> wrote:
        [color=blue]
        > In its current form, your site
        > is about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
        >
        > It looks nice though :-)[/color]

        Tastes great too.

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        • Daniel R. Tobias

          #5
          Re: Error on page - why?

          Neal wrote:[color=blue]
          > On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:46:18 +0100, Philip Ronan
          > <phil.ronanzzz@ virgin.net> wrote:[color=green]
          >> It looks nice though :-)[/color]
          >
          > Tastes great too.[/color]

          Less filling!

          --
          Dan

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          • Dave Patton

            #6
            Re: Error on page - why?

            jpotvin77@hotma il.com (Jacquie) wrote in
            news:64d10947.0 407260625.1364a c8e@posting.goo gle.com:
            [color=blue]
            > hello- I am hoping someone can help me solve this mystery. My pages
            > always say Done with error on page on the bottom. They appear fine on
            > my computer but other people can't all see it on their computer. Also
            > one of my pages is blank, I uploaded it and am not sure what the
            > problem is. The code is all fine I think. Please look at the code if
            > you can. You have to click on the bottom of the website to view code,
            > thank u!!! www.nscadesign.ca/potvin all the pages are doing this![/color]

            You should figure out if you want to use "www.jqdesign.c om" or
            "www.nscadesign .ca/potvin/", and stick with that.

            You should fix the HTML as a first step.
            Then fix things which may validate, but
            make no sense, such as the "Home" link,
            which is broken.

            Then you should look at your home page

            with images disabled and ask yourself
            if that's really what you want people
            to "see".

            Once you have dealt with those sorts
            of issues, you could ask in alt.html.critiq ue
            for a review of your site.

            While at NSCAD University, if you took their
            "ARTS 3120/DMED 3120 Web Sites for Visual Artists"[1]
            course, I would hope you already 'know all this
            sort of thing already'. If they didn't cover
            how to properly author documents for the worldwide
            web, and instead taught how to make 'pretty pages
            people can look at in their web browser', then
            you should ask for your money back.

            [1}

            ARTS 3120/DMED 3120 Web Sites for Visual Artists
            6 studio credits This course gives students the opportunity to
            explore the potential of the World Wide Web as the means of
            expressing themselves as artists. By producing a project for the
            web, students will learn the basics of preparing graphics and
            writing the coding for the web.

            --
            Dave Patton
            Canadian Coordinator, Degree Confluence Project
            The Degree Confluence Project contains photographs of the intersections of integer latitude and longitude degree lines.

            My website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/

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            • Jacquie

              #7
              Re: Error on page - why?

              Dave Patton <spam@trap.inva lid> wrote in message news:<Xns953273 1042262mrzaphod directcaold@24. 71.223.159>...[color=blue]
              > jpotvin77@hotma il.com (Jacquie) wrote in
              > news:64d10947.0 407260625.1364a c8e@posting.goo gle.com:
              >[color=green]
              > > hello- I am hoping someone can help me solve this mystery. My pages
              > > always say Done with error on page on the bottom. They appear fine on
              > > my computer but other people can't all see it on their computer. Also
              > > one of my pages is blank, I uploaded it and am not sure what the
              > > problem is. The code is all fine I think. Please look at the code if
              > > you can. You have to click on the bottom of the website to view code,
              > > thank u!!! www.nscadesign.ca/potvin all the pages are doing this![/color]
              >
              > You should figure out if you want to use "www.jqdesign.c om" or
              > "www.nscadesign .ca/potvin/", and stick with that.
              >
              > You should fix the HTML as a first step.
              > Then fix things which may validate, but
              > make no sense, such as the "Home" link,
              > which is broken.
              >
              > Then you should look at your home page
              > http://www.jqdesign.com/
              > with images disabled and ask yourself
              > if that's really what you want people
              > to "see".
              >
              > Once you have dealt with those sorts
              > of issues, you could ask in alt.html.critiq ue
              > for a review of your site.
              >
              > While at NSCAD University, if you took their
              > "ARTS 3120/DMED 3120 Web Sites for Visual Artists"[1]
              > course, I would hope you already 'know all this
              > sort of thing already'. If they didn't cover
              > how to properly author documents for the worldwide
              > web, and instead taught how to make 'pretty pages
              > people can look at in their web browser', then
              > you should ask for your money back.
              >
              > [1}
              > http://www.nscad.ns.ca/study/fine/fine_arts_courses.php
              > ARTS 3120/DMED 3120 Web Sites for Visual Artists
              > 6 studio credits This course gives students the opportunity to
              > explore the potential of the World Wide Web as the means of
              > expressing themselves as artists. By producing a project for the
              > web, students will learn the basics of preparing graphics and
              > writing the coding for the web.[/color]

              Dave, Thank u very much for your advice. I did take that course at
              NSCAD and actually everyone who knows anything about nscad knows they
              don't teach anything good when it comes to technical issues,
              computers, web design.
              It is entirely a fine arts theory school. You are learning on your own
              with webdesign and just presenting your website with no assistance
              with designing it or coding. Very difficult to learn that way. IN fact
              only 2 people out of 30 that I studied with actually still can create
              websites on their own. So this is the reason I am always asking for
              help on google - I appreciate it, it's a learning process! My images
              aren't broken on the computers I checked however. I have forwarded
              jqdesign.com to nscad for cost purposes temporarily. Aside from the
              home link broken, can u view the portfolio page clearly? I will have
              to spice it up as harsh as some people's comments critiques are always
              helpful - it's the only way to learn. Thank u!! Jacquie

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              • Jacquie

                #8
                Re: Error on page - why?

                Andrew: Thank u very much, I made a lot of changes to the code. This
                is just a temporary site, I'm still learning, graduated from a FINE
                art school, so I'm definately not a pro! And I really need to spice it
                up apparently so will do that after I learn more. Until then, would it
                be possible for you to view again and see if my links work on your
                computer. They work fine on the 3 I tried on, aside from the home
                link. Much appreciated!!! :-) Jacquie

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                • Andrew Urquhart

                  #9
                  Re: Error on page - why?

                  *Jacquie* wrote:[color=blue]
                  > Andrew: Thank u very much, I made a lot of changes to the code. This
                  > is just a temporary site, I'm still learning, graduated from a FINE
                  > art school, so I'm definately not a pro! And I really need to spice it
                  > up apparently so will do that after I learn more. Until then, would it
                  > be possible for you to view again and see if my links work on your
                  > computer. They work fine on the 3 I tried on, aside from the home
                  > link. Much appreciated!!! :-) Jacquie[/color]

                  The 'blank' page does now display in Opera 7.52, Win2000. If you're
                  feeling up to it you might like to look through one of the better HTML
                  tutorials, such as: http://www.htmldog.com/guides/htmlbeginner/. BTW I
                  really like the print design examples, very impressive.
                  --
                  Andrew Urquhart
                  - Contact me: http://andrewu.co.uk/contact/
                  - 'Staccato signals of constant information
                  A loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires' - Paul Simon


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                  • Dave Patton

                    #10
                    Re: Error on page - why?

                    jpotvin77@hotma il.com (Jacquie) wrote in
                    news:64d10947.0 407270307.41acc 0c4@posting.goo gle.com:
                    [color=blue]
                    > Dave Patton <spam@trap.inva lid> wrote in message
                    > news:<Xns953273 1042262mrzaphod directcaold@24. 71.223.159>...[color=green]
                    >> jpotvin77@hotma il.com (Jacquie) wrote in
                    >> news:64d10947.0 407260625.1364a c8e@posting.goo gle.com:[/color][/color]
                    [color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
                    >> > www.nscadesign.ca/potvin[/color][/color][/color]
                    [color=blue][color=green]
                    >> You should fix the HTML as a first step.
                    >> Then fix things which may validate, but
                    >> make no sense, such as the "Home" link,
                    >> which is broken.
                    >>
                    >> Then you should look at your home page
                    >> with images disabled and ask yourself
                    >> if that's really what you want people
                    >> to "see".[/color][/color]
                    [color=blue]
                    > My images aren't broken on the computers I checked however.[/color]
                    [color=blue]
                    > Aside from the home link broken, can u view the portfolio page clearly?[/color]

                    A)
                    You are making some fundamental mistakes in the authoring(note that
                    I didn't say "design") of your website. Don't feel bad - many people
                    make the same mistakes, and particularly those with 'design skills'.
                    You may want to "take a step back" and learn some more before going
                    any further, because in the end you'll likely just end up having
                    to replace much of your current content.

                    B)
                    For a start, you should only author HTML that is valid. There's
                    little point in "figuring out why something doesn't work", or
                    in asking for a site critique, without starting with valid HTML.
                    Use the W3C validator:
                    W3C's easy-to-use markup validation service, based on SGML and XML parsers.

                    to validate each and every webpage you author. For example, your
                    site's index page has 6 validation errors.

                    C)
                    Do not try and produce "pixel perfect" web pages - that's not
                    'how the web works'. Remember, your webpages are a guest on the
                    visitor's computer, and it's not up to you what size they may
                    want to view them at. Strive for 'fluid design' that adapts,
                    within reason, to a variety of browser viewport sizes.

                    D)
                    Don't put examples on your website that demonstrate that you
                    don't know how to do something properly. For example, you
                    have a "portfolio page"(incorrect ly titled as "list"):

                    that has a "Web Design" link. That shouldn't be there unless
                    your own website utilizes proper practices, although you
                    would be far from the first person/company to do this.
                    Another example - don't give examples of the use of Flash
                    unless you are very sure what you are doing. Is this really
                    you want people to see, either at the client's website, or
                    as an example of your work?:

                    You might want to read the thread that started July 26th
                    in the alt.html newsgroup titled:
                    What % of browsers are Flash enabled?

                    E)
                    ALways use a standards-compliant browser when developing and
                    testing your webpages. You may then have to 'tweak things' to
                    cater to the idiosyncrasies of things like operating system
                    components pretending to be browsers, such as Internet Explorer.
                    I'd suggest taking a look at Mozilla Firefox, installing it
                    with the DOM inspector, and getting the Web Developer extension.

                    F)
                    Don't use tables for layout - that's what CSS is for.
                    HTML is for markup. Javascript and Flash should be
                    considered 'optional extras'.

                    G)
                    I know you are a 'graphic designer', so this may sound odd
                    to you, but don't rely on images. For example, you misunderstood
                    my suggestion about disabling images. Take a look at this:
                    <http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.....nscadesign.ca
                    %2Fpotvin%2Find ex.html>
                    Is that really what you want people to see on your home page?
                    Here's your homepage right before I disable images:

                    and here's what I get:

                    You may say to yourself - but my site is about graphic design,
                    so I want images, but consider that the above fairly closely
                    represents what a search engine "sees". Of course there is
                    also the issue of accessability(e .g. for people with impaired
                    vision), which you may be required to address, or conform to,
                    when working for some companies or government organisations.

                    H)
                    Don't give up hope! You aren't ready to 'participate' yet
                    on this website, because you don't know enough about CSS,
                    etc., but take a look at the CSS Zen Garden:
                    A demonstration of what can be accomplished visually through CSS-based design.

                    Participation, in terms of submitting a design, is limited
                    to graphic artists, but you can learn a lot from the website.
                    Try some of the designs. Don't worry for now about "the details".
                    Just appreciate that all those designs are possible without
                    changing any HTML. That's because HTML is used for the page's
                    MARKUP, while CSS is used for the page's PRESENTATION.

                    There - that should keep you busy for now ;-)

                    --
                    Dave Patton
                    Canadian Coordinator, Degree Confluence Project
                    The Degree Confluence Project contains photographs of the intersections of integer latitude and longitude degree lines.

                    My website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/

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