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  • Safalra

    #16
    Re: HTML Code HELP

    Brian <usenet3@juliet remblay.com.inv alid> wrote in message news:<108iac367 50jq4f@corp.sup ernews.com>...[color=blue]
    > Safalra wrote:[color=green]
    > > "Jukka K. Korpela" wrote ...[color=darkred]
    > >> The counter itself is the worst problem; it's the archetypal
    > >> indicator of childish design and produces worse than useless data.[/color]
    > >
    > > [snip]
    > > It's not very accurate for all kinds of reasons, but it's better than
    > > nothing.[/color]
    >
    > Why? It doesn't tell you how many people may have viewed your page, nor
    > even how many requests were made for the page.[/color]

    Okay, suppose a site has two pages, interesting.htm l and boring.html.
    The visit counter for interesting.htm l says it has had 1000 visits.
    The visit counter for boring.html says it has had 10 visits. We can
    say with confidence that interesing.html has almost certainly had more
    'actual visits' than boring.html, and the author may decide to devote
    his attention to interesting.htm l.

    --
    Safalra (Stephen Morley)

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    • Brian

      #17
      Re: HTML Code HELP

      Safalra wrote:
      [color=blue]
      > suppose a site has two pages, interesting.htm l and boring.html.
      > The visit counter for interesting.htm l says it has had 1000 visits.
      > The visit counter for boring.html says it has had 10 visits. We can
      > say with confidence that interesing.html has almost certainly had more
      > 'actual visits' than boring.html[/color]

      We cannot say that will complete confidence. If during a brief period 10
      thousand students from a university visit interesting.htm l, it's
      entirely possible that they get counted once on the counter, especially
      if the site has been designed competently. I recommend that you take a
      look at the pages on cacheing that Alan Flavell points out in his
      contribution to this thread.

      --
      Brian (remove "invalid" from my address to email me)

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      • Jukka K. Korpela

        #18
        Re: HTML Code HELP

        "Toni Mcintyre" <edgeofthebush@ sasktel.net> wrote:
        [color=blue]
        > excuse me, but i think we went through all this MUST have
        > type="text/javascript" stuff a couple of days ago[/color]

        You are not excused. We can easily check what the HTML specification
        requires. Whether lack of a required attribute has anything to do with
        the observed problem is quite a different question. Do you have any
        evidence of that?
        [color=blue]
        > so, for being away from programming
        > for 6 years, i picked up some bad habits about html.[/color]

        Let me guess... you're trolling?
        [color=blue]
        > anyways, all i know about this is that i was <script>....</script>
        > everywhere and it worked fine on MSIE and i didn't know any different
        > until my friend, who works at Sasktel's Internet Support Desk, and is
        > a Netscape geek, ran the site and NONE of the javascript did ANYTHING
        > at all!!!![/color]

        Could you consider stopping the babbling and giving some hard evidence,
        or at least facts like URLs?
        [color=blue]
        > after some discussion on THIS group, i put <script
        > type="text/javascript"> everywhere and (after other issues) my pages
        > started validating and my Netscape friend can run the site and have
        > it look "something" like i want it to look.[/color]

        Unless you post the "before" and "after" URLs so that the situation can
        be verified, I would say that you have mistaken.
        [color=blue]
        > so - before you are so rude to people who don't have quite as much
        > experience as you do, you should google "why do i have so much hubris
        > when a little simple arrogance would do" and see what comes up[/color]

        Oh, so you were not trolling, just trying to make people stop reading
        your messages. Thank you for making your point so clearly. So never mind
        the URLs - you wouldn't have given the right URLs anyway.

        --
        Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
        Pages about Web authoring: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www.html

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        • Gr8DaddyG

          #19
          Re: HTML Code HELP

          "Toni Mcintyre" <edgeofthebush@ sasktel.net> wrote in message news:<108h8erlj dsb8c8@corp.sup ernews.com>...[color=blue]
          > "Gr8DaddyG" <garrett.johnso n@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
          > news:9a3b2d0a.0 404221637.15bcd 4e@posting.goog le.com...[color=green]
          > > I am trying to paste the following code into the HTLM editor of my
          > > webpage:
          > >
          > > <script[/color]
          > src='http://voap.weather.co m/weather/oap/USFM0004?templa te=EVNTV&par=10 04845
          > 350&unit=0&key= 470c828c1eed430 6eeef1f0c11d4bf 45'></script>[color=green]
          > >
          > > But, it will not display correctly. Here's exactly what it displays:
          > >
          > >[/color]
          > src='http://voap.weather.co m/weather/oap/USFM0004?templa te=EVNTV&par=10 04845
          > 350&unit=0&key= 470c828c1eed430 6eeef1f0c11d4bf 45'></script>[color=green]
          > >
          > > It's supposed to be a Weather indicator, but it just shows up as code.
          > > I've tested the code at
          > > http://www.jmarshall.com/easy/html/testbed.html and it dislpays fine,
          > > so I don't know what the problem.
          > >
          > > Sorry for the dubm question, but I'm new with HTML. Thanks,
          > >
          > > Garrett[/color]
          >
          > I put your code into a text file and ran it with MSIE6 and it came up
          > beautifully. I am learning that MSIE will tolerate many things that other
          > browsers won't. What browser are you using??
          >
          > I know from the past couple of days that this code won't validate.
          >
          > 1. MUST HAVE THIS: <script type="text/javascript" .....
          > i had a similar problem where my page would run fine at home on MSIE, but my
          > friend's Netscape wouldn't run any of the scripts because i didn't have
          > type="text/javascript". it didn't display the code as yours did, but again,
          > what browser are you using?
          >
          > 2. the validator won't accept foo.htm?var=val &var=val --- it wants you to
          > foo.htm?var=val ;var=val
          > i am having the same problem with my free page counter. i don't think it
          > would help i if asked the author to change all his code so my page would
          > validate.
          >
          > maybe if you addressed issue 1, the script would display properly, hope so,
          > as it is a nice weather indicator
          >
          > Toni Mcintyre - edgeofthebush@s asktel.net
          > http://wildprop.sasktelwebsite.net/4sale/[/color]

          Great, Thank you!

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