Re: Rant: Microsoft madness
On 2008-05-08, DuncanIdaho <Duncan.Idaho20 08@googlemail.c omwrote:
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You're right, it is rubbish, and significantly more rubbish than any of
their other stuff (much of which is reasonably good if you like that
sort of thing, which I don't).
I was also quite taken aback by it when I knew enough about these things
to realize just how bad it is.
Recent article by Lie in The Register:
"Microsoft' s IE is bug-ridden and the company, despite its vast
resources, has shown little interest in fixing problems that cost
web designers time and sleep. IE dominates the web due to its being
bundled with Windows. This forces web designers to prioritize coding
for IE. Coding for standards-compliant browsers becomes a secondary
consideration.
"Microsoft is keenly aware of this and therefore has little interest
in improving their support for standards. They will never become
standards compliant unless forced by someone in a position to demand
a change, something that users and customers are not. Requiring
standard compliance would greatly lessen Microsoft's monopolistic
stranglehold in the web browser market, would delight web developers
everywhere and would, ironically, make IE a better product."
On 2008-05-08, DuncanIdaho <Duncan.Idaho20 08@googlemail.c omwrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
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Hello
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I realise this thread has probably run it's course but I thought it
would be good to make one final comment
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>What a nightmare.
>What a nightmare.
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Hello
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I realise this thread has probably run it's course but I thought it
would be good to make one final comment
It always amazes me how people defend the indefensible, not just in
software engineering but in many walks of life. If I released such
rubbish I would be sacked, in fact I have a certain pride in my work
that will not allow me to release bug infested software, even if it
means I have to stay behind and work in my own time.
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I guess the fact that this browser is packaged with the 'operating
system' that ships with most new PCs these days means Microsoft don't
really have to try, why should they care when people have no choice.
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For years I have kept out of the 'Microsoft is rubbish' arguments
because I don't really use Microsoft software unless there is no
alternative, consequently I don't feel in a position to comment.
Well I'm afraid to say that in the case of IE 7, if any one asks me I
will recommend anything BUT Internet Explorer, when they ask me why I
will say 'because it's rubbish' and I will feel I have plenty of data to
back up my assertion.
software engineering but in many walks of life. If I released such
rubbish I would be sacked, in fact I have a certain pride in my work
that will not allow me to release bug infested software, even if it
means I have to stay behind and work in my own time.
>
I guess the fact that this browser is packaged with the 'operating
system' that ships with most new PCs these days means Microsoft don't
really have to try, why should they care when people have no choice.
>
For years I have kept out of the 'Microsoft is rubbish' arguments
because I don't really use Microsoft software unless there is no
alternative, consequently I don't feel in a position to comment.
Well I'm afraid to say that in the case of IE 7, if any one asks me I
will recommend anything BUT Internet Explorer, when they ask me why I
will say 'because it's rubbish' and I will feel I have plenty of data to
back up my assertion.
their other stuff (much of which is reasonably good if you like that
sort of thing, which I don't).
I was also quite taken aback by it when I knew enough about these things
to realize just how bad it is.
Recent article by Lie in The Register:
"Microsoft' s IE is bug-ridden and the company, despite its vast
resources, has shown little interest in fixing problems that cost
web designers time and sleep. IE dominates the web due to its being
bundled with Windows. This forces web designers to prioritize coding
for IE. Coding for standards-compliant browsers becomes a secondary
consideration.
"Microsoft is keenly aware of this and therefore has little interest
in improving their support for standards. They will never become
standards compliant unless forced by someone in a position to demand
a change, something that users and customers are not. Requiring
standard compliance would greatly lessen Microsoft's monopolistic
stranglehold in the web browser market, would delight web developers
everywhere and would, ironically, make IE a better product."
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