Robot.txt?

[Arthur Pratz]

Re: Robot.txt?

Is there a reason that you have a text only browser?
Just curious?
Mike Pratz






"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> wrote in message
news:yZMCb.1109 6$Ug6.9205@twis ter.nyroc.rr.co m...[color=blue]
> Quoth the raven named Arthur Pratz:
>[color=green]
> > If you go to a site like MICROSFT.COM, they have JS menus similar to[/color][/color]
mine.[color=blue]
>
> I doubt if anyone here ever said Microsoft did everything right. <g>
>
> Consider: http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html
>
> If your whole site works in this viewer, e.g. it is navigable and all
> the content is presented, you're on your way to a good site.
>
> --
> -bts
> -This space intentionally left blank.
>[/color]

[Alan J. Flavell]

Re: Robot.txt?

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Arthur Pratz blurted out atop a fullquote:
[color=blue]
> Is there a reason that you have a text only browser?[/color]

Is there a reason that you blunder into a usenet discussion group
without bothering to check the accepted netiquette?
[color=blue]
> Just curious?[/color]

Indeed you are.

bye

[Arthur Pratz]

Re: Robot.txt?

Maybe I should of asked this question:
Do you use more than just the test only browser?






"Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@ph.gla .ac.uk> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4 .53.03121323461 60.31955@ppepc5 6.ph.gla.ac.uk. ..[color=blue]
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Arthur Pratz blurted out atop a fullquote:
>[color=green]
> > Is there a reason that you have a text only browser?[/color]
>
> Is there a reason that you blunder into a usenet discussion group
> without bothering to check the accepted netiquette?
>[color=green]
> > Just curious?[/color]
>
> Indeed you are.
>
> bye[/color]

[Stan Brown]

Re: Robot.txt?

In article <PEMCb.191407$E c1.7073718@bgtn sc05-
news.ops.worldn et.att.net> in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html,
Arthur Pratz wrote:[color=blue]
>However, a plain text menu bar would be so many lines of links I didnt like
>it.
>If you go to a site like MICROSFT.COM, they have JS menus similar to mine.[/color]

"If Bobby jumped off the roof, would you jump off the roof too?"

Microsoft is hardly an example of good practice. If you think your
menu had too many links then deal with that design problem. Don't
just wish it away by fooling yourself into a Javascript solution.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA

http://OakRoadSystems.com/

HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
2.1 changes: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/changes.html
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

[Stan Brown]

Re: Robot.txt?

In article <QmNCb.191580$E c1.7077046@bgtn sc05-
news.ops.worldn et.att.net> in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html,
Arthur Pratz wrote:[color=blue]
>Is there a reason that you have a text only browser?
>Just curious?[/color]

Is there a reason you insist on posting upside down?
[color=blue]
>Mike Pratz[/color]

Which is it, Arthur or Mike? or Find?

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA

http://OakRoadSystems.com/

HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
2.1 changes: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/changes.html
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

[Find Yourself]

Re: Robot.txt?


"Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown @fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a4581 97a1ba1cf398b95 d@news.odyssey. net...[color=blue]
> In article <QmNCb.191580$E c1.7077046@bgtn sc05-
> news.ops.worldn et.att.net> in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html,
> Arthur Pratz wrote:[color=green]
> >Is there a reason that you have a text only browser?
> >Just curious?[/color]
>
> Is there a reason you insist on posting upside down?
>[color=green]
> >Mike Pratz[/color]
>
> Which is it, Arthur or Mike? or Find?[/color]

Say what? Check the IP and news server the posts are coming from. I don't
know about Arthur and Mike, but I am my own person.

[Arthur Pratz]

Re: Robot.txt?

Stan, My name is Mike.
Arthur is my father, obviosly i am using his computer at this time.
It sounds to me that your not a big fan of JavaScript.
Would you agree that there are most likely a larger percent of sites on the
web with Java or other types of code.
I find that it lets the web designer use and show there imagination better
than ordinary text.
Before you go off on me, This is my OPINION.
Mike



"Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown @fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a4581 5124621bc998b95 c@news.odyssey. net...[color=blue]
> In article <PEMCb.191407$E c1.7073718@bgtn sc05-
> news.ops.worldn et.att.net> in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html,
> Arthur Pratz wrote:[color=green]
> >However, a plain text menu bar would be so many lines of links I didnt[/color][/color]
like[color=blue][color=green]
> >it.
> >If you go to a site like MICROSFT.COM, they have JS menus similar to[/color][/color]
mine.[color=blue]
>
> "If Bobby jumped off the roof, would you jump off the roof too?"
>
> Microsoft is hardly an example of good practice. If you think your
> menu had too many links then deal with that design problem. Don't
> just wish it away by fooling yourself into a Javascript solution.
>
> --
> Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA
> http://OakRoadSystems.com/
> HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
> validator: http://validator.w3.org/
> CSS 2 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
> 2.1 changes: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/changes.html
> validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/[/color]

[JustAnotherGuy]

Re: Robot.txt?

Arthur Pratz wrote:[color=blue]
> Stan, My name is Mike.
> Arthur is my father, obviosly i am using his computer at this time.
> It sounds to me that your not a big fan of JavaScript.
> Would you agree that there are most likely a larger percent of sites on the
> web with Java or other types of code.
> I find that it lets the web designer use and show there imagination better
> than ordinary text.
> Before you go off on me, This is my OPINION.[/color]

Ok, you are really irritating a lot of people by posting above the
message you're quoting. Just press ctrl+end before you start typing.

Also, it would be nice if you respected people's time by spellchecking
your message, or at least making sure it's somewhat readable.

You'll find that everyone will be far more willing to help you out. Just
thought I'd clarify because other posters have tried to tell you the
same thing in snarky ways that may have caused you to you miss the point.

[Arthur Pratz]

Re: Robot.txt?


"JustAnotherGuy " <gah@mailinator .com> wrote in message
news:brgh46$2rd en$1@ID-214165.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
> Arthur Pratz wrote:[color=green]
> > Stan, My name is Mike.
> > Arthur is my father, obviosly i am using his computer at this time.
> > It sounds to me that your not a big fan of JavaScript.
> > Would you agree that there are most likely a larger percent of sites on[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > web with Java or other types of code.
> > I find that it lets the web designer use and show there imagination[/color][/color]
better[color=blue][color=green]
> > than ordinary text.
> > Before you go off on me, This is my OPINION.[/color]
>
> Ok, you are really irritating a lot of people by posting above the
> message you're quoting. Just press ctrl+end before you start typing.
>
> Also, it would be nice if you respected people's time by spellchecking
> your message, or at least making sure it's somewhat readable.
>
> You'll find that everyone will be far more willing to help you out. Just
> thought I'd clarify because other posters have tried to tell you the
> same thing in snarky ways that may have caused you to you miss the point.
>[/color]


My apologies to all the people I have irritated.
I thank all the people who gave me tips and sharing there know how with me.
I certainly didn't want to make anyone mad.
Thanks for your time,
Mike

[Stan Brown]

Re: Robot.txt?

In article <brgh46$2rden$1 @ID-214165.news.uni-berlin.de> in
comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, JustAnotherGuy wrote:[color=blue]
>Ok, you are really irritating a lot of people by posting above the
>message you're quoting.[/color]

Right
[color=blue]
>Just press ctrl+end before you start typing.[/color]

Wrong. Delete everything except the specific part you're responding
to.

This isn't rocket surgery.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA

http://OakRoadSystems.com/

HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
2.1 changes: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/changes.html
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

[JustAnotherGuy]

Re: Robot.txt?

Stan Brown wrote:
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>Just press ctrl+end before you start typing.[/color]
>
>
> Wrong. Delete everything except the specific part you're responding
> to.[/color]

Indeed. But he was rapidly running himself into the ground so I offered
a quick-and-easy solution--y'know, walk before you run kinda thing :)
[color=blue]
> This isn't rocket surgery.[/color]

Or brain science either!
Oh, wait--was that intentional?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Re: Robot.txt?

Quoth the raven named Arthur/Mike Pratz:
[color=blue]
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> wrote in message
> news:yZMCb.1109 6$Ug6.9205@twis ter.nyroc.rr.co m...
>[color=green]
>>Quoth the raven named Arthur Pratz:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>If you go to a site like MICROSFT.COM, they have JS menus similar to[/color][/color]
> mine.
>[color=green]
>>I doubt if anyone here ever said Microsoft did everything right. <g>
>>
>>Consider: http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html
>>
>>If your whole site works in this viewer, e.g. it is navigable and all
>>the content is presented, you're on your way to a good site.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> Is there a reason that you have a text only browser?
> Just curious?
> Mike Pratz[/color]

I've been out for the evening, but I guess you've figured out the
answer based on the rest of the posts. Personally, I use the text
browser for testing my sites. I'm also not vision impaired, and I have
a fast connection where downloading images is not a problem.

Others do not have these luxuries. My local public library only has a
text browser because they don't want the kids looking at porn. Some on
slow connections turn off images. More and more are disabling
JavaScript because of security issues, but mostly because so many
authors use it for stupid popup windows. So, to repeat, if your site
cannot display all of the relevant content and navigation in a text
browser, you have an accessibility issue. The text browser will also
give you a pretty fair indication of what a speech browser will speak.

And the Number One reason? Google doesn't do JavaScript.

--
-bts
-This space intentionally left blank.

[Eric Bohlman]

Re: Robot.txt?

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> wrote in
news:Y0TCb.1117 4$Ug6.359@twist er.nyroc.rr.com :
[color=blue]
> And the Number One reason? Google doesn't do JavaScript.[/color]

It's also worth mentioning that link-checking software, which the
proprietors of any site that wants to be regarded as significant need to
run frequently, can't make the slightest sense of script-dependent links.
If you make external links script-dependent, they *will* go dead on you and
you won't be able to catch it (if your site is badly managed, you'll also
have *internal* links going dead). You'll never hear user complaints about
dead links that you don't catch yourself; your users will simply go
somewhere else.

[William Tasso]

Re: Robot.txt?

Arthur Pratz wrote:[color=blue]
> ...
> It sounds to me that your not a big fan of JavaScript.[/color]

is irrelevant
[color=blue]
> Would you agree that there are most likely a larger percent of sites
> on the web with Java or other types of code.[/color]

is also irrelevant . please note java is not javascript
[color=blue]
> I find that it lets the web designer use and show there imagination
> better than ordinary text.[/color]

is completely immaterial.
[color=blue]
> Before you go off on me, This is my OPINION.[/color]

With the greatest of respect, your opinion on this is utterly and completely
irrelevant.

What matters are the capabilities of the browser your visitor is using.
Information you can never know with certainty.

--
William Tasso - http://WilliamTasso.com

[Ralph Friedman]

Re: Robot.txt?

Stan Brown wrote:
[color=blue]
> As far as I can see there are no links to anything in the site,
> except a mailto: for the Webmaster.[/color]

In opera 7.2, I see a menu bar with many links just above the "Mailto".

--
Regards,
Ralph
~~