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  • Spartanicus

    #61
    Re: wanting to hire a web author...

    kchayka wrote:
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    >> I fail to see why max-width would be any better than a fixed width table
    >> design.[/color]
    >
    >You don't have to set max-width on the body element, just on those
    >elements or class selectors that might be problematic, like
    >
    >p {max-width:40em}[/color]

    Which again imposes an author's view of what he thinks is a comfortable
    width to read text. It's a dead tree edition constraint that should not
    be emulated on the web. Properly coded web sites allow each user to
    determine what *they* consider comfortable.

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    Spartanicus

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    • Peter Foti

      #62
      Re: wanting to hire a web author...

      "Mr. B." <webmaster@Cats EyeDesigns.Net> wrote in message
      news:44f7223a.0 311250101.18e9a a58@posting.goo gle.com...[color=blue][color=green]
      > > BTW: "Click here" is not good text for links - how does someone using a
      > > keyboard/PDA/speech browser/whatever click? And you shouldn't be using[/color][/color]
      only[color=blue][color=green]
      > > Javascript for links - what happens for the ~10-15% of users who have it
      > > disabled? Not to mention Googlebot.[/color]
      > As far as googlebot, I don't WANT googlebot to index that, which is
      > why a javascript link isn't a problem in that respect. The only
      > javascript links are for the items in my portfolio, and a few others
      > that don't need to be search engine indexable.
      >
      > As far as the "click here" thing, I read a user interface article a
      > year or so ago that said that users like to be TOLD what to do
      > sometimes. Maybe they were wrong? Maybe I don't remember it correctly?
      > Who knows.[/color]

      Regarding "Click Here", here's the W3 suggestion:


      Regards,
      Peter Foti


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      • Brian

        #63
        Re: wanting to hire a web author...

        Spartanicus wrote:[color=blue]
        > Brian wrote:
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        >>>And if it's wider then it won't adapt, same flawed principle.[/color]
        >>
        >>Perhaps. But horizontal scrollbars are really awful.[/color]
        >
        > The thread's context was preventing content to extend to the view port
        > width.[/color]

        Yes. And in that context, one could use width. But when the viewport
        is narrow, there are horizontal scroll bars. Using max-width helps
        layout without forcing horizontal scrollbars.

        I'd give you an example, but my hosting provider is undergoing a
        denial-of-service attack, so http is unavailable.

        --
        Brian
        follow the directions in my address to email me

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        • Spartanicus

          #64
          Re: wanting to hire a web author...

          Brian wrote:
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          >> The thread's context was preventing content to extend to the view port
          >> width.[/color]
          >
          >Yes. And in that context, one could use width. But when the viewport
          >is narrow, there are horizontal scroll bars.[/color]

          Again: the context was a *wide* viewport.

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          Spartanicus

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          • Brian

            #65
            Re: wanting to hire a web author...

            Spartanicus wrote:[color=blue]
            > Brian wrote:
            >[color=green][color=darkred]
            >>>The thread's context was preventing content to extend to the view port
            >>>width.[/color]
            >>
            >>Yes. And in that context, one could use width. But when the viewport
            >>is narrow, there are horizontal scroll bars.[/color]
            >
            > Again: the context was a *wide* viewport.[/color]

            My context is the www. The question is why and how to prevent a wide
            display of e.g. a paragraph. Width is a bad choice to accomplish this
            task. Max-width is a good choice.



            This uses max-width to suggest what the client thinks is an attractive
            layout. Had I used width, the layout would be the same, even if
            someone had a narrow viewport, creating horizontal scroll bars.
            Instead, I used max-width. It does what the client wanted when the
            viewport is wide -- the context of this thread -- but does not create
            usability problems when the browsing situation is different. Seems to
            me that's a document that works well in the context of the www.

            --
            Brian
            follow the directions in my address to email me

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