Play audio when clicked?

[Alan J. Flavell]

Re: Play audio when clicked?

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Matt wrote:
[color=blue]
> Think of it a 3 in every 100 that won't ==> annoyed user.[/color]

Oh, I don't know - a browser that doesn't have flash is far less
annoying that *does* have it, when I'm looking for something in a
hurry.

Having heard a variety of reactions to the typical Flash offering, I
think I could fairly say (not that I believe the numbers, you
understand) that if 97% have it, and 3% haven't, then the 97% (many of
whom have been given no choice as to whether they have it or not, and
haven't yet found how to turn it off) is more reason for an author to
avoid forcing it on readers, than the 3% is.

As an available option, it might sometimes make sense. I *have* seen
a handful of worthwhile uses - interestingly, most of those were
offered as optional extras - as against hundreds of examples of
pointless dross - most of which (surprised?) were used as a
non-optional tank-trap on the way to what would otherwise have been
the front door. Or in a few cases there _was_ no front door - only
the Flash hoardings with nothing fo substance behind. Ho hum.

[Stan Brown]

Re: Play audio when clicked?

In article <smk17-A44F4E.13223023 102003@newsstan d.cit.cornell.e du>
in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Steve K <smk17@cornell. edu>
wrote:[color=blue]
>The website for this department which has the same target
>audience has a web counter. The site for that webcounter (nextgenstats)
>gives us detailed info on the last 100 users everyday. 97% of these
>users are on IE 4.[/color]

You've learned nothing from this newsgroup. Such statistics are
regularly exposed as the tissue of inaccuracy that they are.

Whether you made it up or someone made it up and told it to you,
that "97%" is a made-up number.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA

http://OakRoadSystems.com/

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[Matthias Gutfeldt]

Re: Play audio when clicked?

Safalra wrote:[color=blue]
> Stan Brown <the_stan_brown @fastmail.fm> wrote in message news:<MPG.1a00e d652e8d5f2d98b6 16@news.odyssey .net>...
>[color=green]
>>In article <smk17-A2D507.09574822 102003@newsstan d.cit.cornell.e du>
>>in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Steve K <smk17@cornell. edu>
>>wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>I'd say 97% of my target audience
>>>(high school seniors, undergrads, all around the world about to enter or
>>>thinking about entering Cornell's Applied Economics and Management
>>>undergraduat e business program) will be able to see the flash I use.[/color]
>>
>>Again with the made-up numbers. Sigh.[/color]
>
>
> As they say, 90% of statistics are made up on the spot.[/color]

Our extensive multi-modal cross-media survey suggests it's actually 94.7%.


Matthias

[Steve K]

Re: Play audio when clicked?

In article <MPG.1a026ee071 21a19898b620@ne ws.odyssey.net> , Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown @fastmail.fm> wrote:
[color=blue]
> In article <smk17-A44F4E.13223023 102003@newsstan d.cit.cornell.e du>
> in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Steve K <smk17@cornell. edu>
> wrote:[color=green]
> >The website for this department which has the same target
> >audience has a web counter. The site for that webcounter (nextgenstats)
> >gives us detailed info on the last 100 users everyday. 97% of these
> >users are on IE 4.[/color]
>
> You've learned nothing from this newsgroup. Such statistics are
> regularly exposed as the tissue of inaccuracy that they are.
>
> Whether you made it up or someone made it up and told it to you,
> that "97%" is a made-up number.[/color]

I agree. But it's real close to 97%.

The site is not 100% flash.

It has various small flash pieces throughout the site that a user can
play or not play. Each has a start button and a stop button. You lose no
control at all. None of it is navigation. I try to optimize it as best
as possible to keep the size down, etc.

It has actual student audio testimonials that you can choose to listen
to. Sure most of this could be left out, or just written in text but...
I chose not to I guess is my best answer. But I don't feel I'm overusing
it.

[Stan Brown]

Re: Play audio when clicked?

In article <smk17-7E281B.08324324 102003@newsstan d.cit.cornell.e du>
in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Steve K <smk17@cornell. edu>
wrote:[color=blue]
>I agree. But it's real close to 97%.[/color]

To quote W. Edwards Deming, "How do you know that? On what basis do
you know that? Why don't you put that figure in the trash can where
it belongs?"

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA

http://OakRoadSystems.com/

HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
2.1 changes: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/changes.html
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

[Steve K]

Re: Play audio when clicked?

In article <MPG.1a07272820 016bfc98b62a@ne ws.odyssey.net> , Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown @fastmail.fm> wrote:
[color=blue]
> In article <smk17-7E281B.08324324 102003@newsstan d.cit.cornell.e du>
> in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Steve K <smk17@cornell. edu>
> wrote:[color=green]
> >I agree. But it's real close to 97%.[/color]
>
> To quote W. Edwards Deming, "How do you know that? On what basis do
> you know that? Why don't you put that figure in the trash can where
> it belongs?"[/color]

How do you know it's not 97%?

[Mark Parnell]

Re: Play audio when clicked?

Sometime around Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:25:11 -0500, Steve K is reported to
have stated:[color=blue]
>
> How do you know it's not 97%?[/color]

ROFLOL

How do you know it's not 85%? Or 36%? Or 2%? You can't - that's the
point.

--
Mark Parnell

http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au