div problems

[Bryce (Work)]

I have a page that's being dynamically generated.

It has 2 parts, which I want to display on top of each other (not
overlapping, but one after the other). I won't know the height of the
1st part until run time.

Now, to compound the problem, each part has elements inside it that
are absolute positioned inside its box.

I have tried to use <div style="position :absolute">, but I need to
know the top and height of the 1st part in order to place the 2nd part
(which I don't).

Of course using <div> tags without a position:absolu te style will
place the parts one after the other, but then the contained elements
are then positioned inside the browser as opposed to the desired
result; positioned inside its containing box.

Any suggestions? Tips?

[Ivo]

Re: div problems


"Bryce (Work)" <spamtrap@berze rker-soft.com> wrote in message
news:jsggnv41jl fpbdnft8qo08edv eonvnuf91@4ax.c om...[color=blue]
> I have a page that's being dynamically generated.
>
> It has 2 parts, which I want to display on top of each other (not
> overlapping, but one after the other). I won't know the height of the
> 1st part until run time.
>
> Now, to compound the problem, each part has elements inside it that
> are absolute positioned inside its box.
>
> I have tried to use <div style="position :absolute">, but I need to
> know the top and height of the 1st part in order to place the 2nd part
> (which I don't).
>
> Of course using <div> tags without a position:absolu te style will
> place the parts one after the other, but then the contained elements
> are then positioned inside the browser as opposed to the desired
> result; positioned inside its containing box.
>
> Any suggestions? Tips?[/color]

Wait with layout and positioning until runtime. Users may witness a funny
looking page while loading, but many sites work that way, including some
sections at microsoft.com.
Ivo

[Bryce (Work)]

Re: div problems

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:21:32 +0200, "Ivo" <no@thank.you > wrote:
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>
>Wait with layout and positioning until runtime. Users may witness a funny
>looking page while loading, but many sites work that way, including some
>sections at microsoft.com.
>Ivo[/color]

yea, I ended up implementing with some javascript onload. Works, I
just pray to god none of my clients have turned off JavaScript in
their browsers...

[Brian]

Re: div problems

Bryce (Work) wrote:[color=blue]
>
> I ended up implementing with some javascript onload. Works, I
> just pray to god none of my clients have turned off JavaScript in
> their browsers...[/color]

lol perhaps you should rely on something more material than prayer

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[Stephen Poley]

Re: div problems

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:16:59 -0400, "Bryce (Work)"
<spamtrap@berze rker-soft.com> wrote:
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>On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 05:21:32 +0200, "Ivo" <no@thank.you > wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Wait with layout and positioning until runtime. Users may witness a funny
>>looking page while loading, but many sites work that way, including some
>>sections at microsoft.com.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>yea, I ended up implementing with some javascript onload. Works, I
>just pray to god none of my clients have turned off JavaScript in
>their browsers...[/color]

Estimates of visitors with Javascript off or unavailable range from 10%
to 20%, so you may need to rethink that one.

The absolute minimum you need to do would be a warning to the reader
that the page will display strangely without Javascript. But my view is
that doing a table-based layout is preferable to doing a CSS layout
which breaks without Javascript.

--
Stephen Poley

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/

[Bryce (Work)]

Re: div problems

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:33:04 +0200, Stephen Poley
<sbpoleySpicedH amTrap@xs4all.n l> wrote:
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>>yea, I ended up implementing with some javascript onload. Works, I
>>just pray to god none of my clients have turned off JavaScript in
>>their browsers...[/color]
>
>Estimates of visitors with Javascript off or unavailable range from 10%
>to 20%, so you may need to rethink that one.
>
>The absolute minimum you need to do would be a warning to the reader
>that the page will display strangely without Javascript. But my view is
>that doing a table-based layout is preferable to doing a CSS layout
>which breaks without Javascript.[/color]

I wish I could... Table layout would be best in our situation, but
that would involve a total rewrite as opposed to a quick solution...
Thank god we are replacing this app with something better...

[I V]

Re: div problems

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:42:55 -0400, Bryce (Work) wrote:[color=blue]
> I have tried to use <div style="position :absolute">, but I need to
> know the top and height of the 1st part in order to place the 2nd part
> (which I don't).
>
> Of course using <div> tags without a position:absolu te style will
> place the parts one after the other, but then the contained elements
> are then positioned inside the browser as opposed to the desired
> result; positioned inside its containing box.[/color]

position: relative also creates a new containing box. I often find that
positioning the main content div relatively, and any additional divs
absolutely allows me to get the layout I want without knowing the height
of the divs involved.

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