Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

[just say NO to PDF]

Here's the scoop:

Does anyone remember the UNIX utility "pretty" for formatting C code?

What I'm looking for is a utility that will do two things:
1) Format the HTML code itself to make it more readable (indentation, line
breaks, etc.)
2) Optimize HTML to remove empty and redundant tags

Reason: Have you ever seen what kind of a mess you get when you paste WORD
(or other rich text) into a HTML editor like Front Page? Answer is a "Hello,
World" of about 50KB...

Recognising that the two requirements are somewhat contradictory, I may need
two utilities...are there any free ones available before I do it myself in
PERL?

--Maarten ( webnames.ca_NO_ SPAM_@city.rich mond.bc.ca )

[John Bokma]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

just say NO to PDF wrote:
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> Here's the scoop:
>
> Does anyone remember the UNIX utility "pretty" for formatting C code?[/color]

http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/

John

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[Mike Novak]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?


"just say NO to PDF" <stingray_67@no _spam.hotmail.c om> wrote in message
news:XKDRa.15$5 V2.471@news.bc. tac.net...[color=blue]
> Here's the scoop:
>
> Does anyone remember the UNIX utility "pretty" for formatting C code?
>
> What I'm looking for is a utility that will do two things:
> 1) Format the HTML code itself to make it more readable (indentation, line
> breaks, etc.)
> 2) Optimize HTML to remove empty and redundant tags
>
> Reason: Have you ever seen what kind of a mess you get when you paste WORD
> (or other rich text) into a HTML editor like Front Page? Answer is a[/color]
"Hello,[color=blue]
> World" of about 50KB...
>
> Recognising that the two requirements are somewhat contradictory, I may[/color]
need[color=blue]
> two utilities...are there any free ones available before I do it myself in
> PERL?
>
> --Maarten ( webnames.ca_NO_ SPAM_@city.rich mond.bc.ca )
>
>[/color]

Try HTML-Kit

http://www.chami.com/html-kit/

[Toby A Inkster]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:29:31 -0700, just say NO to PDF wrote:
[color=blue]
> What I'm looking for is a utility that will do two things:
> 1) Format the HTML code itself to make it more readable (indentation, line
> breaks, etc.)
> 2) Optimize HTML to remove empty and redundant tags[/color]

Tidy does both of these. Someone has already posted a link to the old Tidy
site, but the newest versions can be found at http://tidy.sourceforge.net/
[color=blue]
> Reason: Have you ever seen what kind of a mess you get when you paste WORD
> (or other rich text) into a HTML editor like Front Page? Answer is a "Hello,
> World" of about 50KB...[/color]

Tidy has special routines for dealing with the output of FrontPage, Word,
etc...

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[Michel]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

try notepad.

Nothing beats notepad when it comes to web-design....

Michel

"just say NO to PDF" <stingray_67@no _spam.hotmail.c om> wrote in message
news:XKDRa.15$5 V2.471@news.bc. tac.net...[color=blue]
> Here's the scoop:
>
> Does anyone remember the UNIX utility "pretty" for formatting C code?
>
> What I'm looking for is a utility that will do two things:
> 1) Format the HTML code itself to make it more readable (indentation, line
> breaks, etc.)
> 2) Optimize HTML to remove empty and redundant tags
>
> Reason: Have you ever seen what kind of a mess you get when you paste WORD
> (or other rich text) into a HTML editor like Front Page? Answer is a[/color]
"Hello,[color=blue]
> World" of about 50KB...
>
> Recognising that the two requirements are somewhat contradictory, I may[/color]
need[color=blue]
> two utilities...are there any free ones available before I do it myself in
> PERL?
>
> --Maarten ( webnames.ca_NO_ SPAM_@city.rich mond.bc.ca )
>
>[/color]

[kchayka]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

John Bokma wrote:
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> Toby A Inkster wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:32:36 +0200, Michel wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Nothing beats notepad when it comes to web-design....[/color]
>>
>> Yeah, it does:
>>
>> http://www.nedit.org/[/color]
>
> Texpad (http://www.textpad.com/ ) is cool too.[/color]

Nah, Crimson Editor is better than textpad any day. :)
<URL:http://crimsoneditor.c om/>

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[Jim Royal]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

In article <bf7864$4q4$1@n ews.cistron.nl> , Michel
<webmaster@hand leiding-online-nospam-aub.nl> wrote:
[color=blue]
> try notepad.
>
> Nothing beats notepad when it comes to web-design....[/color]

BBEdit.

'Nuff said.

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[John]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

In article <1058488673.699 918@halkan.kabe lfoon.nl>,
postmaster@cast leamber.com says...[color=blue]
> Toby A Inkster wrote:
>[color=green]
> > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:32:36 +0200, Michel wrote:
> >
> >[color=darkred]
> >>Nothing beats notepad when it comes to web-design....[/color]
> >
> >
> > Yeah, it does:
> >
> > http://www.nedit.org/
> >[/color]
>
> Nirvana rocks :-)
>
> Texpad (http://www.textpad.com/ ) is cool too. I like the clip library
> and the tabbed interface.
>
> John[/color]

There are also dandy macros you can add to TextPad, and when you add Tidy
to the Tools menu, what more could you want?

(another) John
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[Arve Bersvendsen]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

John Bokma wrote in news:1058474495 .743828@halkan. kabelfoon.nl:
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> http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/[/color]

Tidy now lives at <URL:http://tidy.sourceforg e.net/>

(And for prettyprinting of HTML, there's not much that beats tidy).

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[Lars G. Svensson]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:29:31 -0700, just say NO to PDF
<stingray_67@no _spam.hotmail.c om> wrote:
[color=blue]
> What I'm looking for is a utility that will do two things:
> 1) Format the HTML code itself to make it more readable (indentation,
> line
> breaks, etc.)
> 2) Optimize HTML to remove empty and redundant tags[/color]
JEdit <http://www.jedit.org> with XML/HTML and JTidy plugins. Requires
Java, though.

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[Brian]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

kchayka wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>>Texpad (http://www.textpad.com/ ) is cool too.[/color][/color]

That's a new one for me.
[color=blue]
> Nah, Crimson Editor is better than textpad any day. :)
> <URL:http://crimsoneditor.c om/>[/color]

I tried that. The context highlighting, with different colors, was
great. But I couldn't live w/out my clip libraries in NoteTab, so I
went back. Does Crimson have anything like that?

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[Leonard Blaisdell]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

In article <18072003002621 2115%jimroyal@c anada.com>, noone@nowhere.c om wrote:
[color=blue]
> BBEdit.
>
> 'Nuff said.[/color]

Amen old Mac buddy! I can't speak for any of the PC world programs, but I
can't imagine a better text editor. What would it do that BBEdit can't?

leo

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[Ian Rastall]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:36:46 +0200, Stephen Poley <sbpoley@xs4all .nl>
wrote:
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>NoteTab is pretty good - and the Light version is free.[/color]

NoteTab Pro is pretty much what my world revolves around. Tidy is
integrated too, which is nice.

Ian
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[Lauri Raittila]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

In article <leo-180703013249000 1@leosmac.spark s.nv.us>, Leonard Blaisdell
wrote:
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> What would it do that BBEdit can't?[/color]

I don't know. But I bet emacs can do that.

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[Michel]

Re: Formatting HTML Source - Is there a utility?

Exactly my point

And you're the only one yet to see it.

Regards,

Michel