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  • Mark Tranchant

    #16
    Re: headings headings headings

    Jacqui or (maybe) Pete wrote:
    [color=blue][color=green]
    >>I like this one:
    >>
    >>http://www.tranchant.freeserve.co.uk...tml-start.html
    >>
    >>I hear the author is a really great chap too. ;-)[/color][/color]
    [color=blue]
    > I heard the same - but when is he going to start the companion css
    > tutorial that he promised :?)[/color]

    He keeps claiming he's short of time to complete it, although he has
    started it. Poor excuse if you ask me...

    --
    Mark.


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    • Brian

      #17
      Re: headings headings headings

      Mark Tranchant wrote:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
      >>> I like this one:
      >>>
      >>> http://www.tranchant.freeserve.co.uk...tml-start.html
      >>>
      >>> I hear the author is a really great chap too. ;-)[/color][/color]
      >[color=green]
      >> I heard the same - but when is he going to start the companion
      >> css tutorial that he promised :?)[/color]
      >
      > He keeps claiming he's short of time to complete it, although he
      > has started it. Poor excuse if you ask me...[/color]

      Lazy s.o.b. :-p

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      • Brian

        #18
        Re: headings headings headings

        Mark Tranchant wrote:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
        >>>>http://www.tranchant.freeserve.co.uk...tml-start.html
        >>>
        >>>In Galeon 1.3.5 based on Mozilla 1.3.1 the bottom of the left
        >>>navigation menu isn't visible through scrolling if the window height
        >>>is too small. It needs over 700px of height at my fairly small font
        >>>size after including a reasonable amount of browser controls, so this
        >>>might happen a lot. I'd guess it's the way it's handling position:
        >>>fixed;[/color][/color]
        >
        > compromise to display the menu structure without implementing collapsing
        > menus.
        >
        > I'll have another think, but if anyone else has any ideas, I'd be open
        > to suggestions.[/color]

        I've never used anything even close to the following, so I have no
        idea if I'm way off the mark. Could you use overflow: auto on the
        nave div?

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        Brian
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        • Lauri Raittila

          #19
          Re: headings headings headings

          In article <XVFPa.37328$N7 .4621@sccrnsc03 >, Brian wrote:[color=blue]
          > Mark Tranchant wrote:[/color]
          [color=blue][color=green]
          > > compromise to display the menu structure without implementing collapsing
          > > menus.
          > >
          > > I'll have another think, but if anyone else has any ideas, I'd be open
          > > to suggestions.[/color]
          >
          > I've never used anything even close to the following, so I have no
          > idea if I'm way off the mark. Could you use overflow: auto on the
          > nave div?[/color]

          He could, it works, and he don't like it. That's what I also suggested
          before.

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          • Mark Tranchant

            #20
            Re: headings headings headings

            Lauri Raittila wrote:[color=blue]
            > In article <beln3b$k9713@e ccws12.dearborn .ford.com>, Mark Tranchant
            > wrote:
            >[color=green]
            >>Lauri Raittila wrote:
            >>[color=darkred]
            >>>In article <878yr6uzcr.fsf @dinopsis.dur.a c.uk>, Chris Morris wrote:
            >>>
            >>>>Mark Tranchant <mtranch2@ford. com> writes:
            >>>>
            >>>>
            >>>>>I like this one:
            >>>>>
            >>>>>http://www.tranchant.freeserve.co.uk...tml-start.html
            >>>>
            >>>>In Galeon 1.3.5 based on Mozilla 1.3.1 the bottom of the left
            >>>>navigatio n menu isn't visible through scrolling if the window height
            >>>>is too small. It needs over 700px of height at my fairly small font
            >>>>size after including a reasonable amount of browser controls, so this
            >>>>might happen a lot. I'd guess it's the way it's handling position:
            >>>>fixed;[/color]
            >>[color=darkred]
            >>>He knows that, but don't like to fix it. Mark, you should add disclaimer:
            >>>"that position:fixed menu will be truncated occasionally, and I don't
            >>>care"[/color]
            >>
            >>I do point this out on my "help" page:
            >>
            >>http://www.tranchant.freeserve.co.uk/help.html#vis
            >>
            >>It's not that I don't care, but that I believe this is the best
            >>compromise to display the menu structure without implementing collapsing
            >>menus.
            >>
            >>I'll have another think, but if anyone else has any ideas, I'd be open
            >>to suggestions.[/color]
            >
            >
            > As I said before, make it look like it is purpose. I think I said that it
            > gradually going transparent would be good indicator, and IIRC that would
            > have been easy to do, but I haven't visited your site since.[/color]

            That's a good idea. I don't remember seeing your old suggestion: either
            I missed it, or my newsfeed did.

            I'll have to try that, perhaps using less contrasty colours for the
            lower menus. Another possibility is to overlay a div containing an alpha
            gradient PNG, but I'd have to watch background compatibility.

            --
            Mark.


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            • Lauri Raittila

              #21
              Re: headings headings headings

              In article <betk46$5eh7@ec cws12.dearborn. ford.com>, Mark Tranchant wrote:[color=blue]
              > Lauri Raittila wrote:[color=green]
              > > As I said before, make it look like it is purpose. I think I said that it
              > > gradually going transparent would be good indicator, and IIRC that would
              > > have been easy to do, but I haven't visited your site since.[/color]
              >
              > That's a good idea. I don't remember seeing your old suggestion: either
              > I missed it, or my newsfeed did.
              >
              > I'll have to try that, perhaps using less contrasty colours for the
              > lower menus. Another possibility is to overlay a div containing an alpha
              > gradient PNG, but I'd have to watch background compatibility.[/color]

              I think easiest would be absolute positioning gradient from transparent
              to bluebackground on the bottom of the page, under/bottom of the menu. It
              will make last shown menuitem hard/impossible to read, but that was not
              the problem, right?

              (of course this need to be hidden from IE)

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              Lauri Raittila <http://www.iki.fi/lr> <http://www.iki.fi/zwak/fonts>
              Saapi lähettää meiliä, jos aihe ei liity ryhmään, tai on yksityinen
              tjsp., mutta älä lähetä samaa viestiä meilitse ja ryhmään.

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