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  • Charles A. Landemaine
    #1

    CSS hack for IE8?

    Hello,

    My GUI works fine in the following browsers:
    - IE6
    - IE7
    - Opera
    - Safari
    - Firefox
    - Seamonkey
    - Konqueror
    However, yesterday, I tested it in IE8b1, and it's totally broken :(
    http://neuridia.org/docs/gui/

    I'd like to know if there is a hack to format my page only for IE8.
    Thanks,

    --
    Charles.
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    • Rik Wasmus
      #2
      Re: CSS hack for IE8?

      On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:20:36 +0100, Charles A. Landemaine
      <landemaine@gma il.comwrote:
      Hello,
      >
      My GUI works fine in the following browsers:
      - IE6
      - IE7
      - Opera
      - Safari
      - Firefox
      - Seamonkey
      - Konqueror
      However, yesterday, I tested it in IE8b1, and it's totally broken :(
      http://neuridia.org/docs/gui/

      I'd like to know if there is a hack to format my page only for IE8.
      You could use the MSIE proprietary 'comment' conditional offcourse.
      However, I think it's to soon to create MSIE8 hacks, as far as I learned a
      lot is still quite buggy. It would be a waste of time to write around bugs
      they might fix anyway (and why the hell does MSIE8 STILL insist on not
      understanding XHTML headers and SVG?).

      BTW: especially hovering above & clicking on links seems to be broken ATM.
      Don't try to fix that yet.
      --
      Rik Wasmus

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        • Charles A. Landemaine
          #3
          Re: CSS hack for IE8?

          On Mar 6, 11:01 am, "Rik Wasmus" <luiheidsgoe... @hotmail.comwro te:
          Don't try to fix that yet.
          Thanks, I'll wait for RCs then.

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            • Harlan Messinger
              #4
              Re: CSS hack for IE8?

              Rik Wasmus wrote:
              On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:20:36 +0100, Charles A. Landemaine
              <landemaine@gma il.comwrote:
              >
              >Hello,
              >>
              >My GUI works fine in the following browsers:
              > - IE6
              > - IE7
              > - Opera
              > - Safari
              > - Firefox
              > - Seamonkey
              > - Konqueror
              >However, yesterday, I tested it in IE8b1, and it's totally broken :(
              >http://neuridia.org/docs/gui/
              >I'd like to know if there is a hack to format my page only for IE8.
              >
              You could use the MSIE proprietary 'comment' conditional offcourse.
              However, I think it's to soon to create MSIE8 hacks, as far as I learned
              a lot is still quite buggy. It would be a waste of time to write around
              bugs they might fix anyway (and why the hell does MSIE8 STILL insist on
              not understanding XHTML headers and SVG?).
              Microsoft has poured its support for browser-based vector graphics into
              Silverlight, which, along with Adobe's Flash and Flex, has taken
              interest away from the clunky SVG technology.

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                • Ben C
                  #5
                  Re: CSS hack for IE8?

                  On 2008-03-08, Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.rem ovethis@comcast .netwrote:
                  Rik Wasmus wrote:
                  >On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:20:36 +0100, Charles A. Landemaine
                  ><landemaine@gm ail.comwrote:
                  >>
                  >>Hello,
                  >>>
                  >>My GUI works fine in the following browsers:
                  >> - IE6
                  >> - IE7
                  >> - Opera
                  >> - Safari
                  >> - Firefox
                  >> - Seamonkey
                  >> - Konqueror
                  >>However, yesterday, I tested it in IE8b1, and it's totally broken :(
                  >>http://neuridia.org/docs/gui/
                  >>I'd like to know if there is a hack to format my page only for IE8.
                  >>
                  >You could use the MSIE proprietary 'comment' conditional offcourse.
                  >However, I think it's to soon to create MSIE8 hacks, as far as I learned
                  >a lot is still quite buggy. It would be a waste of time to write around
                  >bugs they might fix anyway (and why the hell does MSIE8 STILL insist on
                  >not understanding XHTML headers and SVG?).
                  >
                  Microsoft has poured its support for browser-based vector graphics into
                  Silverlight, which, along with Adobe's Flash and Flex, has taken
                  interest away from the clunky SVG technology.
                  What's clunky about SVG technology?

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                    • GTalbot
                      #6
                      Re: CSS hack for IE8?

                      On 8 mar, 12:58, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4...@centra l.netwrote:
                      A pain ain't it! As as MS keeps dragging behind like a uncooperative
                      2-year-old this is a web designer's reality. Recent reports I've read
                      IE8 is that it will probably fall short again opposed to first blush...
                      Johnathan,

                      I think it would be more proper here to be nuanced and be more "wait-
                      and-see". You and I do not know how good/correct/compliant IE 8 final
                      will be. So far, Microsoft has created a brand new rendering engine
                      and many modules (eg inline module) have not been yet implemented but
                      will be implemented before IE 8 final is RTM. Solid facts we can be
                      sure of so far about IE 8:

                      - float model implementation has been corrected: there are still some
                      issues left
                      - adjoining margin collapsing has been fixed entirely
                      - z-index has been correctly implemented: there are still a few cases
                      left to fix
                      - the most glaring obvious bugs (1 crash and 3 hang bugs) have been
                      fixed
                      - people are filing bugs at connect

                      Lots of people complained about the above 5 items.

                      - there won't be any CSS 3 properties implemented (eg opacity, border-
                      radius), no SVG support. I personally do not see why many people are
                      upset with that. IE's proprietary filter: alpha(opacity=) should be
                      supported in IE 8 final.

                      If IE 8 beta 1 is a fair indication of what IE 8 final will be, then
                      IE 8 will reduce the gap between other better-web-standards-compliant
                      browsers like Firefox 3, Opera 9.50, Safari 3.1 and Konqueror 4.03.
                      There will be areas where IE 8 will be far behind like DOM 2 Events,
                      DOM 2 CSS.

                      "Our goal is to deliver complete, full CSS 2.1 support in the final
                      IE8 product."
                      Dean Hachamovitch, General Manager, Internet Explorer, March 5th 2008
                      IEBlog
                      http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/05/internet-explorer-8-beta-1-for-developers-now-available.aspx


                      "We want to make IE8's Standards mode much, much better than IE7's
                      Standards mode."
                      Dean Hachamovitch, March 3rd 2008
                      IEBlog
                      http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/03/microsoft-s-interoperability-principles-and-ie8.aspx


                      Microsoft has also commited itself on a number of issues like complete
                      DOM (1 or 2?) Core support. There will be a beta 2 release.
                      After a careful reading of their documentation, I believe DOM 2 Events
                      interface and DOM 2 Stylesheets interface won't be implemented..

                      Regards, Gérard
                      --
                      Internet Explorer 8 bugs
                      Bugs in MSIE 8 for Windows
                      http://www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSection/MSIE8Bugs/

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                        • Jonathan N. Little
                          #7
                          Re: CSS hack for IE8?

                          GTalbot wrote:
                          On 8 mar, 12:58, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4...@centra l.netwrote:
                          >
                          >A pain ain't it! As as MS keeps dragging behind like a uncooperative
                          >2-year-old this is a web designer's reality. Recent reports I've read
                          >IE8 is that it will probably fall short again opposed to first blush...
                          >
                          Johnathan,
                          >
                          I think it would be more proper here to be nuanced and be more "wait-
                          and-see". You and I do not know how good/correct/compliant IE 8 final
                          will be. So far, Microsoft has created a brand new rendering engine
                          and many modules (eg inline module) have not been yet implemented but
                          will be implemented before IE 8 final is RTM. Solid facts we can be
                          sure of so far about IE 8:
                          >
                          Hmm call me a cynic, but it would be nice if it comes true. Where did
                          they get the rendering engine from?

                          --
                          Take care,

                          Jonathan
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