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  • salmanjavaheri@yahoo.co.uk
    #1

    Header AND Footer?

    Hi is there any simple way to get a footer in an html page? so that
    when it comes to print, that footer is on EVERY page, just as whatever
    you put in the <headtag is at the top of every page printed.



    thanks
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    • Andy Dingley
      #2
      Re: Header AND Footer?

      On 18 Feb, 09:09, salmanjavah...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
      Hi is there any simple way to get a footer in an html page?
      No.

      You can do this (and do it well) with XSL:FO, which is much more
      complicated but is targetted more for print-based output and has far
      better features for this sort of task. Not much use on the web though.

      You could also try <tablemarkup and using <theadand <tfoot>
      elements. In _some_ contexts, these may be printed as repeated headers
      and footers for each page that the table spans. Note though that this
      has two drawbacks: It's far from reliable (print handling
      implementation in HTML is usually poor and this behaviour isn't a
      mandatory requirement anyway.) Secondly it's a clear abuse of <table>
      as a purely layout feature.

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        • salmanjavaheri@yahoo.co.uk
          #3
          Re: Header AND Footer?

          On Feb 18, 1:23 pm, Andy Dingley <ding...@codesm iths.comwrote:
          On 18 Feb, 09:09, salmanjavah...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
          >
          Hi is there any simple way to get a footer in an html page?
          >
          No.
          >
          You can do this (and do it well) with XSL:FO, which is much more
          complicated but is targetted more for print-based output and has far
          better features for this sort of task. Not much use on the web though.
          >
          You could also try <tablemarkup and using <theadand <tfoot>
          elements. In _some_ contexts, these may be printed as repeated headers
          and footers for each page that the table spans. Note though that this
          has two drawbacks: It's far from reliable (print handling
          implementation in HTML is usually poor and this behaviour isn't a
          mandatory requirement anyway.) Secondly it's a clear abuse of <table>
          as a purely layout feature.
          thanks for the help - will take a look

          i'm 99% sure whatever is in the head tag appears at the top of every
          page

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            • Harlan Messinger
              #4
              Re: Header AND Footer?

              salmanjavaheri@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
              On Feb 18, 1:23 pm, Andy Dingley <ding...@codesm iths.comwrote:
              >On 18 Feb, 09:09, salmanjavah...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
              >>
              >>Hi is there any simple way to get a footer in an html page?
              >No.
              >>
              >You can do this (and do it well) with XSL:FO, which is much more
              >complicated but is targetted more for print-based output and has far
              >better features for this sort of task. Not much use on the web though.
              >>
              >You could also try <tablemarkup and using <theadand <tfoot>
              >elements. In _some_ contexts, these may be printed as repeated headers
              >and footers for each page that the table spans. Note though that this
              >has two drawbacks: It's far from reliable (print handling
              >implementati on in HTML is usually poor and this behaviour isn't a
              >mandatory requirement anyway.) Secondly it's a clear abuse of <table>
              >as a purely layout feature.
              >
              thanks for the help - will take a look
              >
              i'm 99% sure whatever is in the head tag appears at the top of every
              page
              You have a browser that prints the META and LINK tags at the top of each
              page?

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                • salmanjavaheri@yahoo.co.uk
                  #5
                  Re: Header AND Footer?

                  i'm getting worried now, just tried it on my office pc and...as you
                  all said, it didn't work, will check out the one i did at home.


                  btw all this is for a replacement for the reports that are made in
                  access, my reports are quite complicated, and very frustating to put
                  together and edit in access, so i thought i'd try and move to html,
                  but obviously the headers and footers are going to be an issue.

                  Is xsl:fo THE solution for reports then? is it easy to learn?

                  thanks


                  On Feb 19, 11:50 am, Harlan Messinger
                  <hmessinger.rem ovet...@comcast .netwrote:
                  salmanjavah...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
                  On Feb 18, 1:23 pm, Andy Dingley <ding...@codesm iths.comwrote:
                  On 18 Feb, 09:09, salmanjavah...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
                  >
                  >Hi is there any simple way to get a footer in an html page?
                  No.
                  >
                  You can do this (and do it well) with XSL:FO, which is much more
                  complicated but is targetted more for print-based output and has far
                  better features for this sort of task. Not much use on the web though.
                  >
                  You could also try <tablemarkup and using <theadand <tfoot>
                  elements. In _some_ contexts, these may be printed as repeated headers
                  and footers for each page that the table spans. Note though that this
                  has two drawbacks: It's far from reliable (print handling
                  implementation in HTML is usually poor and this behaviour isn't a
                  mandatory requirement anyway.) Secondly it's a clear abuse of <table>
                  as a purely layout feature.
                  >
                  thanks for the help - will take a look
                  >
                  i'm 99% sure whatever is in the head tag appears at the top of every
                  page
                  >
                  You have a browser that prints the META and LINK tags at the top of each
                  page?- Hide quoted text -
                  >
                  - Show quoted text -

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                    • Harlan Messinger
                      #6
                      Re: Header AND Footer?

                      salmanjavaheri@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
                      On Feb 19, 11:50 am, Harlan Messinger
                      <hmessinger.rem ovet...@comcast .netwrote:
                      >salmanjavah... @yahoo.co.uk wrote:
                      >>On Feb 18, 1:23 pm, Andy Dingley <ding...@codesm iths.comwrote:
                      >>>On 18 Feb, 09:09, salmanjavah...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
                      >>>>Hi is there any simple way to get a footer in an html page?
                      >>>No.
                      >>>You can do this (and do it well) with XSL:FO, which is much more
                      >>>complicate d but is targetted more for print-based output and has far
                      >>>better features for this sort of task. Not much use on the web though.
                      >>>You could also try <tablemarkup and using <theadand <tfoot>
                      >>>elements. In _some_ contexts, these may be printed as repeated headers
                      >>>and footers for each page that the table spans. Note though that this
                      >>>has two drawbacks: It's far from reliable (print handling
                      >>>implementati on in HTML is usually poor and this behaviour isn't a
                      >>>mandatory requirement anyway.) Secondly it's a clear abuse of <table>
                      >>>as a purely layout feature.
                      >>thanks for the help - will take a look
                      >>i'm 99% sure whatever is in the head tag appears at the top of every
                      >>page
                      >You have a browser that prints the META and LINK tags at the top of each
                      >page?- Hide quoted text -
                      i'm getting worried now, just tried it on my office pc and...as you
                      all said, it didn't work, will check out the one i did at home.
                      >
                      >
                      btw all this is for a replacement for the reports that are made in
                      access, my reports are quite complicated, and very frustating to put
                      together and edit in access, so i thought i'd try and move to html,
                      but obviously the headers and footers are going to be an issue.
                      >
                      Is xsl:fo THE solution for reports then? is it easy to learn?
                      As was mentioned, it isn't much use on the Web. AFAIK there is no
                      browser support.

                      How about using Word?

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                        • Andy Dingley
                          #7
                          Re: Header AND Footer?

                          On 19 Feb, 13:32, salmanjavah...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
                          Is xsl:fo THE solution for reports then?
                          Works for me! It's my favoured route for "some database stuff" out
                          to PDFs (or other formats) with a lot of control over paper-based
                          typography.
                          is it easy to learn?
                          There's a lot of it.

                          _If_ you already know XML, XSLT and CSS, then it's pretty easy. XSL:FO
                          is written in XML, you'll most likely generate it with XSLT and the
                          rendering model is pretty close to CSS (with extensions for paged
                          media). If you don't know all three of these beforehand, then that's a
                          lot of learning for one project. It's all good stuff you'll not regret
                          having spent the effort on afterwards, but there's a lot of it.

                          OTOH, it's far less ugly than Crystal and at least you'll learn
                          something useful.

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                            • salmanjavaheri@yahoo.co.uk
                              #8
                              Re: Header AND Footer?

                              On Feb 19, 3:50 pm, Andy Dingley <ding...@codesm iths.comwrote:
                              On 19 Feb, 13:32, salmanjavah...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
                              >
                              Is xsl:fo THE solution for reports then?
                              >
                              Works for me!   It's my favoured route for "some database stuff" out
                              to PDFs (or other formats) with a lot of control over paper-based
                              typography.
                              >
                              is it easy to learn?
                              >
                              There's a lot of it.
                              >
                              _If_ you already know XML, XSLT and CSS, then it's pretty easy. XSL:FO
                              is written in XML, you'll most likely generate it with XSLT and the
                              rendering model is pretty close to CSS (with extensions for paged
                              media). If you don't know all three of these beforehand, then that's a
                              lot of learning for one project. It's all good stuff you'll not regret
                              having spent the effort on afterwards, but there's a lot of it.
                              >
                              OTOH, it's far less ugly than Crystal and at least you'll learn
                              something useful.

                              Sounds like the ticket, pdf's exactly what i'm going to be finishing
                              them off in, doesn't need to be web viewable. The other main reason
                              why i'm looking down this route is because the code could all be made
                              within the database, and then simply exported if i'm correct. Or is
                              there an even better way? (without getting a much more advanced
                              database system than access/filemaker)

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                                • Andy Dingley
                                  #9
                                  Re: Header AND Footer?

                                  On 19 Feb, 17:16, salmanjavah...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
                                  Or is there an even better way?
                                  Simplest possible report engine, then a really simple "Print as PDF"
                                  tool like Distiller or Foxit?

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