Is the end of HTML as we know it?

[SpaceGirl]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?

On Nov 7, 2:03 pm, Els <els.aNOS...@ti scali.nlwrote:

Chaddy2222 wrote:

BTW, that's why I have not been much of a fan of the CMS packages I
have found, they are all reliant on templates that use very bloated
code.

>
Have to correct you there, Chad - I use Joomla for clients all the
time, but in no way do I depend on templates with bloated code. I
write the templates myself, and replace tables with divs where needed.
Obviously, this does need quite a bit of customisation, but that's why
they pay me for it ;-)
>
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Els http://locusmeus.com/

How do you find Joomla! Els? I have a client wanting to use it, and I
was pushing them more in the direction of WordPress (which I have more
experience with). They currently have Joomla! but I really can't get
to grips with it!

[Els]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?

SpaceGirl wrote:

How do you find Joomla! Els? I have a client wanting to use it, and I
was pushing them more in the direction of WordPress (which I have more
experience with). They currently have Joomla! but I really can't get
to grips with it!

I've never used Wordpress, but Joomla is a piece of cake[*]. At the
same time though, I've now been using it for over a year, and I'm
still discovering handy features I didn't know about. (I guess that's
what you get for not reading manuals...)

______________[*] miles may differ ;-)

(fup to a.w.w)

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[1001 Webs]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?

On Nov 7, 1:41 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:

1001 Webs wrote:

On Nov 7, 6:39 am, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailb ox-sicur...@yahoo. com.au>
wrote:

Heidi wrote:
>Chaddy2222 wrote:
>: It was a template I developed for my own sites.
>:http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biznow is useing it.
>: It should look a lot better as I changed a lot of things in the CSS.
>I hope you can take constructive criticism...
>The flash thingy for your portfolio is annoying. Why does the text have to
>flip, roll, spin, or bounce oddly into place?
>Heidi
Hmmm do you think it would look better if they all (meaning the text)
came in the same way? I believe I was thinking of doing that first.

It would look better if you learned to use Flash in the first place.
It is just pathetic the way it looks.
Aren't you ashamed of showing off such a disgrace?

>
You should get your own site in shape before criticizing others.

You should get a website before attempting to even open your mouth,
you phony "instructor ".
Hey people, Jerry Sucker does NOT have his own website.
That says it all, doesn't it?

Have you been able to "instruct" your dog at least.?
Can't even do that, can you?

[1001 Webs]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?

On Nov 7, 2:58 pm, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailb ox-sicur...@yahoo. com.au>
wrote:

On Nov 7, 11:41 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
>

1001 Webs wrote:

On Nov 7, 6:39 am, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailb ox-sicur...@yahoo. com.au>
wrote:
>Heidi wrote:
>>Chaddy2222 wrote:
>>: It was a template I developed for my own sites.
>>:http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biznowis useing it.
>>: It should look a lot better as I changed a lot of things in the CSS.
>>I hope you can take constructive criticism...
>>The flash thingy for your portfolio is annoying. Why does the text have to
>>flip, roll, spin, or bounce oddly into place?
>>Heidi
>Hmmm do you think it would look better if they all (meaning the text)
>came in the same way? I believe I was thinking of doing that first.
It would look better if you learned to use Flash in the first place.
It is just pathetic the way it looks.
Aren't you ashamed of showing off such a disgrace?

>

You should get your own site in shape before criticizing others.

>
I could not agree more.
I need to be honest here:
I can NOT believe that with the OP's lack of clue and understanding
about some rather fundamentall facts concerning website design that
he even expects to get payed for what he slaps together.
Baysicly, the OP is a hack, that's evident from the fact that he /
she / it uses third party templates.
Frankly if clients wanted third party templates, and CMS's they could
just install Joomla.
BTW, that's why I have not been much of a fan of the CMS packages I
have found, they are all reliant on templates that use very bloated
code.

Hi moron,

here, have a look at some Flash created by me.

http://www.geocities.com/microlink_estepona/

don't like it really, but compared to yours it looks like "Halo 3"

[Jerry Stuckle]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?

1001 Webs wrote:

On Nov 7, 1:41 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:

>1001 Webs wrote:

>>On Nov 7, 6:39 am, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailb ox-sicur...@yahoo. com.au>
>>wrote:
>>>Heidi wrote:
>>>>Chaddy222 2 wrote:
>>>>: It was a template I developed for my own sites.
>>>>:http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biznow is useing it.
>>>>: It should look a lot better as I changed a lot of things in the CSS.
>>>>I hope you can take constructive criticism...
>>>>The flash thingy for your portfolio is annoying. Why does the text have to
>>>>flip, roll, spin, or bounce oddly into place?
>>>>Heidi
>>>Hmmm do you think it would look better if they all (meaning the text)
>>>came in the same way? I believe I was thinking of doing that first.
>>It would look better if you learned to use Flash in the first place.
>>It is just pathetic the way it looks.
>>Aren't you ashamed of showing off such a disgrace?

>You should get your own site in shape before criticizing others.

>
You should get a website before attempting to even open your mouth,
you phony "instructor ".
Hey people, Jerry Sucker does NOT have his own website.
That says it all, doesn't it?
>

Nope, I don't have a website YOU KNOW ABOUT. My training company
doesn't need one - I've got more work than I want right now. I do have
other websites - but they have nothing to do with webmastering and I
don't advertise them.

Have you been able to "instruct" your dog at least.?
Can't even do that, can you?
>
>

Actually, my training company probably brought in more money last month
than you have all year.


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[Jonathan N. Little]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?

Jerry Stuckle wrote:

1001 Webs wrote:

>On Nov 7, 1:41 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:

Nope, I don't have a website YOU KNOW ABOUT. My training company
doesn't need one - I've got more work than I want right now. I do have
other websites - but they have nothing to do with webmastering and I
don't advertise them.
>

>Have you been able to "instruct" your dog at least.?
>Can't even do that, can you?
>>
>>

>
Actually, my training company probably brought in more money last month
than you have all year.
>

Nice pissing contest guys! But it does really have anything to do with
the topic at hand, whether quality of design and skill translates to a
better web delivered product?


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[paul watt]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?


"Chaddy2222 " <spamlovermailb ox-sicurity@yahoo. com.auwrote in message
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Heidi wrote:

>Chaddy2222 wrote:
>: It was a template I developed for my own sites.
>: http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz now is useing it.
>: It should look a lot better as I changed a lot of things in the CSS.
>>
>I hope you can take constructive criticism...
>>
>The flash thingy for your portfolio is annoying. Why does the text have
>to
>flip, roll, spin, or bounce oddly into place?
>>
>>
>Heidi
>>

Hmmm do you think it would look better if they all (meaning the text)
came in the same way? I believe I was thinking of doing that first.

Hey Chad,
How ya doing mate? Why are you concentrating on flash? I thought that would
move you away from the accessable aspect of your philosophy?

--
Paul Watt

http://www.paulwattdesigns.com

[Chaddy2222]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?


paul watt wrote:

"Chaddy2222 " <spamlovermailb ox-sicurity@yahoo. com.auwrote in message
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Heidi wrote:

Chaddy2222 wrote:
: It was a template I developed for my own sites.
: http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz now is useing it.
: It should look a lot better as I changed a lot of things in the CSS.
>
I hope you can take constructive criticism...
>
The flash thingy for your portfolio is annoying. Why does the text have
to
flip, roll, spin, or bounce oddly into place?
>
>
Heidi
>

Hmmm do you think it would look better if they all (meaning the text)
came in the same way? I believe I was thinking of doing that first.

>
Hey Chad,
How ya doing mate? Why are you concentrating on flash? I thought that would
move you away from the accessable aspect of your philosophy?
>

Well, you perhaps have a point there Paul. As Flash is not widely as
accessible as it could be.
However I am only useing it for one particular section / feature of
the website and for what it does it works well.
I am also planning other
sections in particular an our sites type section where I will place
examples of my work and descriptions etc.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz

[Chaddy2222]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?


paul watt wrote:

"Chaddy2222 " <spamlovermailb ox-sicurity@yahoo. com.auwrote in message
news:1194364128 .987613.276010@ e34g2000pro.goo glegroups.com.. .

Heidi wrote:

Chaddy2222 wrote:
: It was a template I developed for my own sites.
: http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz now is useing it.
: It should look a lot better as I changed a lot of things in the CSS.
>
I hope you can take constructive criticism...
>
The flash thingy for your portfolio is annoying. Why does the text have
to
flip, roll, spin, or bounce oddly into place?
>
>
Heidi
>

Hmmm do you think it would look better if they all (meaning the text)
came in the same way? I believe I was thinking of doing that first.

>
Hey Chad,
How ya doing mate?

<snip>
Hay again Paul, I am doing quite well. I finished my final Uni exam
for the year today (well yesterday now I guess.
I am also working on a re-design of the Web Design Tips Online
project, soon to be officially launched.
I am also launching my new domain name on Monday
(freewebdesigno nline.org).
How are you going anyway, have you got more business yet?.
--
Regards Chad.

[Matt Probert]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?

"paul watt" <paul@NOSPAMpau lwatt.infowrote :

>Hey Chad,
>How ya doing mate? Why are you concentrating on flash? I thought that would
>move you away from the accessable aspect of your philosophy?

You may be considering accessible only through terms of visual
impairment. Children and possibly therefore those with learning
difficulties, often find pictures, and by extenson, Flash more
accessible than plain text.

Similarly the deaf; those born profoundly death may not have learned a
spoken language (English, Spanish, German etc) toa high level, and as
such may find pictures easier to comprehend than written words.

Matt

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[GreyWyvern]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?

And lo, Matt didst speak in a-buncha-groups:

those born profoundly death may not have learned a
spoken language

I don't think those people are even able to worry about website
accessibility.. .

Grey

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pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous.
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[paul watt]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?


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paul watt wrote:

>"Chaddy2222 " <spamlovermailb ox-sicurity@yahoo. com.auwrote in message
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>
Heidi wrote:
>Chaddy2222 wrote:
>: It was a template I developed for my own sites.
>: http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz now is useing it.
>: It should look a lot better as I changed a lot of things in the CSS.
>>
>I hope you can take constructive criticism...
>>
>The flash thingy for your portfolio is annoying. Why does the text
>have
>to
>flip, roll, spin, or bounce oddly into place?
>>
>>
>Heidi
>>
Hmmm do you think it would look better if they all (meaning the text)
came in the same way? I believe I was thinking of doing that first.

>>
>Hey Chad,
>How ya doing mate?

<snip>
Hay again Paul, I am doing quite well. I finished my final Uni exam
for the year today (well yesterday now I guess.
I am also working on a re-design of the Web Design Tips Online
project, soon to be officially launched.
I am also launching my new domain name on Monday
(freewebdesigno nline.org).
How are you going anyway, have you got more business yet?.

i'm not doing bad thanks, got a bit of buisness, just done a freebie for my
sister and i've got something else in the pipe line. I've had to take a full
time job but thats ok

--
Paul Watt

http://www.paulwattdesigns.com

[Chaddy2222]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?


paul watt wrote:

"Chaddy2222 " <spamlovermailb ox-sicurity@yahoo. com.auwrote in message
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paul watt wrote:

"Chaddy2222 " <spamlovermailb ox-sicurity@yahoo. com.auwrote in message
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Heidi wrote:
Chaddy2222 wrote:
: It was a template I developed for my own sites.
: http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz now is useing it.
: It should look a lot better as I changed a lot of things in the CSS.
>
I hope you can take constructive criticism...
>
The flash thingy for your portfolio is annoying. Why does the text
have
to
flip, roll, spin, or bounce oddly into place?
>
>
Heidi
>
Hmmm do you think it would look better if they all (meaning the text)
came in the same way? I believe I was thinking of doing that first.
>
Hey Chad,
How ya doing mate?

<snip>
Hay again Paul, I am doing quite well. I finished my final Uni exam
for the year today (well yesterday now I guess.
I am also working on a re-design of the Web Design Tips Online
project, soon to be officially launched.
I am also launching my new domain name on Monday
(freewebdesigno nline.org).
How are you going anyway, have you got more business yet?.

>
i'm not doing bad thanks, got a bit of buisness, just done a freebie for my
sister and i've got something else in the pipe line. I've had to take a full
time job but thats ok
>

Hmm it's a worry really.
But I am sure you know who to blaim for the lack of work, it's those
dam graphic designer hacks who think they can slap up pages and call
themselves a web designer.
They also charge very low rates.
BTW just a thaught have you considard buying ads in local newspapers
as well as web based (Google Add words) comes to mind.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz

[1001 Webs]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?

On Nov 8, 2:26 pm, "paul watt" <p...@NOSPAMpau lwatt.infowrote :

"Chaddy2222 " <spamlovermailb ox-sicur...@yahoo. com.auwrote in message
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Heidi wrote:

Chaddy2222 wrote:
: It was a template I developed for my own sites.
:http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz now is useing it.
: It should look a lot better as I changed a lot of things in the CSS.

>

I hope you can take constructive criticism...

>

The flash thingy for your portfolio is annoying. Why does the text have
to
flip, roll, spin, or bounce oddly into place?

>

Heidi

>

Hmmm do you think it would look better if they all (meaning the text)
came in the same way? I believe I was thinking of doing that first.

>
Hey Chad,
How ya doing mate? Why are you concentrating on flash?

"concentrat ing on Flash"???
Oh I see, it is a joke.
I get it now.
Very funny.
Hilarious, really, good one !!!

I thought that would
move you away from the accessable aspect of your philosophy?

Another joke, no doubt ...

[Matt Probert]

Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?

GreyWyvern <spam@greywyver n.comwrote:

>And lo, Matt didst speak in a-buncha-groups:
>

>those born profoundly death may not have learned a
>spoken language

>
>I don't think those people are even able to worry about website
>accessibility. ..

Which illustrates perfectly the typical level of ignorance and bigotry
we have in the Western world.

I have two profoundly deaf chums. They smoke pot, drink too much beer,
fornicate, but communicate in sign language rather than English.
They're deaf, not stupid.

In short, like all disabled people they are the same as everyone else.
All the same, all different. They all need to make use of services, so
to bar them from your web site, doesn't make economic sense.

Matt

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