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  • runner7@fastmail.fm

    max-width web page design

    After some research and personal testing, it appears to me that if you
    want a maximum width for your web page in IE using div's, scripting
    will have to be turned on. This being the case, if you are going to
    use div's, anyone without scripting turned on in their IE browser
    would have to be supplied a single default width, unless you are
    willing to have your page extruded to unlimited widths.

    If the above is indeed the case, it would be my opinion that table
    design, which will give you a max width without the need for
    scripting, is superior to the use of div's when you need a max width
    to maintain the graphic aspect of your web page within certain
    proportions. Otherwise, some screen resolutions will always lose the
    benefit of your intended design.

    Thus, it appears for this particular need that the most recent html/
    css recommendations for design are still inferior to table design due
    to lack of implementation in IE. The latest recommendations are no
    doubt superior for the purposes of standardization and control in
    theoretical browser behavior, but to get the specific behavior
    described here now, table design still appears to be superior.

    This post is not to put down IE which has often made my life much
    easier than Firefox, but not in this case. I would be interested in
    any, hopefully well-informed, comments on this post, especially from
    anyone who might know of any way to indeed get a max page width in IE
    using div's, but with scripting turned off.

  • Bergamot

    #2
    Re: max-width web page design

    runner7@fastmai l.fm wrote:
    After some research and personal testing, it appears to me that if you
    want a maximum width for your web page in IE using div's, scripting
    will have to be turned on.
    Only for IE 6 or older versions. IE7 supports max-width.

    --
    Berg

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    • Bergamot

      #3
      Re: max-width web page design

      runner7@fastmai l.fm wrote:
      On Nov 3, 9:51 am, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
      >>
      >IE7 supports max-width.
      >
      I just tried the following code in 2 different installations of IE7
      It's a waste of time to post a code snippet. Post a URL showing your
      attempts.

      --
      Berg

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      • runner7@fastmail.fm

        #4
        Re: max-width web page design

        On Nov 4, 10:49 am, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
        runn...@fastmai l.fm wrote:
        On Nov 3, 9:51 am, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
        >
        IE7 supports max-width.
        >
        I just tried the following code in 2 different installations of IE7
        >
        It's a waste of time to post a code snippet. Post a URL showing your
        attempts.
        >
        --
        Berg
        I may do that if I have some extra time. In the meantime, have you
        ever actually seen css max-width work in IE7? If so, was some
        particular setting needed to make it work?

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        • Jonathan N. Little

          #5
          Re: max-width web page design

          Bergamot wrote:
          You can run these multiple IE versions on Win XP or earlier versions.
          Vista has other requirements I don't know anything about. Google for it.
          Seems with Vista virtual machines is your only option. (or multiple
          boot| machines) ;-)



          --
          Take care,

          Jonathan
          -------------------
          LITTLE WORKS STUDIO

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          • runner7@fastmail.fm

            #6
            Re: max-width web page design

            On Nov 7, 10:15 am, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
            runn...@fastmai l.fm wrote:
            >
            Now, your page claims to have been tested in IE 5.0-7.0, so it appears
            that css max-width works in those earlier versions as well
            >
            Nope. Only IE7 supports max-width. There are JavaScript hacks that can
            make it work in IE6 (possibly earlier versions), but I don't use them.
            BTW, that page is not intended as an example of max-width, just a
            2-column layout using a particular method. It happens to use max-width.
            >
            Berg
            But, your 2-column layout appears to depend on max-width, so does it
            really work in IE 5 and 6 or not?

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            • rf

              #7
              Re: max-width web page design


              <runner7@fastma il.fmwrote in message
              news:1194583809 .884065.71320@5 7g2000hsv.googl egroups.com...
              On Nov 7, 10:15 am, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
              >runn...@fastma il.fm wrote:
              >>
              Now, your page claims to have been tested in IE 5.0-7.0, so it appears
              that css max-width works in those earlier versions as well
              >>
              >Nope. Only IE7 supports max-width. There are JavaScript hacks that can
              >make it work in IE6 (possibly earlier versions), but I don't use them.
              >BTW, that page is not intended as an example of max-width, just a
              >2-column layout using a particular method. It happens to use max-width.
              >>
              >Berg
              >
              But, your 2-column layout appears to depend on max-width,
              No it doesn't. Remove max-width and it still works as designed, a two column
              layout.
              so does it
              really work in IE 5 and 6 or not?
              The subject of the page, the two column layout, does. Maxwidth, of course
              does not but that is not what the "tested in ..." comment is about. That is
              about the two column layout.

              --
              Richard.


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              • Bergamot

                #8
                Re: max-width web page design

                runner7@fastmai l.fm wrote:
                On Nov 7, 10:15 am, Bergamot <berga...@visi. comwrote:
                >>
                >BTW, that page is not intended as an example of max-width, just a
                >2-column layout using a particular method. It happens to use max-width.
                >
                But, your 2-column layout appears to depend on max-width,
                No, it does not. The max-width has nothing to do with the 2-column
                layout. Take max-width out and you still have 2 columns.
                so does it
                really work in IE 5 and 6 or not?
                The 2 columns work fine, which is what that page is all about. The
                layout just stretches to fill the viewport instead of stopping at 45ems
                (or whatever max-width happens to be).

                --
                Berg

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