Update help and advice please

**Hugh Newbury** · Sep 12 '07, 10:55 AM

Re: Update help and advice please

Andy Dingley wrote:

On 12 Sep, 10:37, Hugh Newbury <h...@hnewbury. uklinux.netwrot e:
>

>The reason for all this is that I discover Firefox 2.0.0.6 can't see my
>frames, unlike 2.0.0.4.

>
Post a URL so that we can see it, there's probably some simple short-
term fix for it.
>

https://www.evershot.demon.co.uk

Very many thanks for your help. I'm sure you're right that I've mucked
it up somehow trying to get it to work again.

Hugh

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**GArlington** · Sep 12 '07, 12:45 PM

Re: Update help and advice please

On 12 Sep, 11:54, Hugh Newbury <h...@hnewbury. uklinux.netwrot e:

Andy Dingley wrote:

On 12 Sep, 10:37, Hugh Newbury <h...@hnewbury. uklinux.netwrot e:

>

The reason for all this is that I discover Firefox 2.0.0.6 can't see my
frames, unlike 2.0.0.4.

>

Post a URL so that we can see it, there's probably some simple short-
term fix for it.

>

https://www.evershot.demon.co.uk

>
Very many thanks for your help. I'm sure you're right that I've mucked
it up somehow trying to get it to work again.
>
Hugh
>
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>
Hugh Newbury
>
Running Linux Suse 10.1 in deepest Dorset

Which frames can you NOT see?

**Hugh Newbury** · Sep 12 '07, 01:45 PM

Re: Update help and advice please

GArlington wrote:

>
Which frames can you NOT see?
>

This is weird. It seems to be working now. But it *really* wasn't last
night. Clicking any of the navigation frame links produced that page in
full frame, IYSWIM. The header and nav frames were overwritten. I'd
better leave it for now. I don't see how it can work one afternoon, but
not in the evening before! I'll get back to you if it throws another wobbly.

But all your help is invaluable. Thank you all.

Hugh

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**Andy Dingley** · Sep 12 '07, 01:55 PM

Re: Update help and advice please

On 12 Sep, 13:43, GArlington <garling...@tis cali.co.ukwrote :

www.evershot.demon.co.uk

Which frames can you NOT see?

I can't see _anything_.

Come back in an hour or two when my eyeballs have recovered from the
glaring yellow and green colour scheme!

The obvious suckage here is the bogus doctype declaration that
HotMetal has stuck on the top of the pages. I suggest that the OP
manually cut and paste an appropriate one for HTML 4.01 Transitional
with standards-based rendering (copy it from Henri Sivonen's page, as
listed previously).

Then poke at it with the HTML validators, Tidy etc. There's a lot you
_could_ improve, but as far as a "frame based legacy page" goes,
there's nothing that's _obviously_ wrong with it (There might be, but
with that bogus DTD it's too awkward to tell automatically as yet).

I'm seeing all the frames I'd expect to see, and that's with FF 2.0.0.6

**Jonathan N. Little** · Sep 12 '07, 02:05 PM

Re: Update help and advice please

Hugh Newbury wrote:

GArlington wrote:

>Which frames can you NOT see?
>>

>
This is weird. It seems to be working now. But it *really* wasn't last
night. Clicking any of the navigation frame links produced that page in
full frame, IYSWIM. The header and nav frames were overwritten. I'd
better leave it for now. I don't see how it can work one afternoon, but
not in the evening before! I'll get back to you if it throws another wobbly.

Was your CTRL key stuck? In Windows and Linux CTRL + Left Click opens
link in a new tab by default...

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**Hugh Newbury** · Sep 12 '07, 02:25 PM

Re: Update help and advice please

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Was your CTRL key stuck? In Windows and Linux CTRL + Left Click opens
link in a new tab by default...
>

Don't think so.

Hugh

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**Hugh Newbury** · Sep 12 '07, 02:35 PM

Re: Update help and advice please

Andy Dingley wrote:

On 12 Sep, 13:43, GArlington <garling...@tis cali.co.ukwrote :
>

>>www.evershot.demon.co.uk

>

>Which frames can you NOT see?

>
I can't see _anything_.
>
Come back in an hour or two when my eyeballs have recovered from the
glaring yellow and green colour scheme!

It was supposed to be creamy butter and green fields, such as we have
down here!

>
The obvious suckage here is the bogus doctype declaration that
HotMetal has stuck on the top of the pages. I suggest that the OP
manually cut and paste an appropriate one for HTML 4.01 Transitional
with standards-based rendering (copy it from Henri Sivonen's page, as
listed previously).

Will do.

>
Then poke at it with the HTML validators, Tidy etc. There's a lot you
_could_ improve, but as far as a "frame based legacy page" goes,
there's nothing that's _obviously_ wrong with it (There might be, but
with that bogus DTD it's too awkward to tell automatically as yet).

I'll try that too.

I'm seeing all the frames I'd expect to see, and that's with FF 2.0.0.6
>

I'll work at all that and get back to you-all.

Hope you get your eyesight back soon.

Thanks again

Hugh

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**Andy Dingley** · Sep 12 '07, 03:35 PM

Re: Update help and advice please

On 12 Sep, 15:26, Hugh Newbury <h...@hnewbury. uklinux.netwrot e:

It was supposed to be creamy butter and green fields, such as we have
down here!

Whatever colour you pick, turn down the saturation to about half what
you expected. If someone sees it less strongly than you do, they won't
mind. if they see it more strongly than you do (and that includes the
majority of Mac users), then they're likely to find their eyeballs
rolling around on the floor afterwards. Better too subtle than too
heavy.

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