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  • Cartoper

    Deactivate browser's print function

    I hear it is possible to disable the web browsers print function, does
    anyone know how to do that?

  • Sherm Pendley

    #2
    Re: Deactivate browser's print function

    Cartoper <cartoper@gmail .comwrites:
    I hear it is possible to disable the web browsers print function
    You heard wrong.

    sherm--

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    • Cartoper

      #3
      Re: Deactivate browser's print function

      On Jul 28, 9:25 am, Sherm Pendley <spamt...@dot-app.orgwrote:
      Cartoper <carto...@gmail .comwrites:
      I hear it is possible to disable the web browsers print function
      >
      You heard wrong.
      Bummer, what I heard, well read, exactly is:

      Selecting the "Print only blank pages" option will prevent visitors
      from printing your pages. Any time someone uses the print function,
      either the browser will refuse to print (Internet Explorer 4.0 or
      higher) or only a blank page will be output (Netscape Navigator 6.0 or
      higher and Opera 4.0 or higher).

      This function works with almost every CSS 2.0-enabled browser. Be
      aware that no warning is given, so users in this scenario may suspect
      a faulty printer or defective software.

      source: http://www.aw-soft.com/htmlguard-security.html

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      • Dylan Parry

        #4
        Re: Deactivate browser's print function

        Cartoper wrote:
        Ah ha. What their software is essentially doing is adding a print
        stylesheet to your page that contains the rule:

        * {
        display: none;
        }

        This means that nothing will be shown on any pages that are printed. Of
        course, this is going to annoy people who don't know how to get around
        such silly things.

        --
        Dylan Parry
        http://electricfreedom.org | http://webpageworkshop.co.uk

        The opinions stated above are not necessarily representative of
        those of my cats. All opinions expressed are entirely your own.

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        • rf

          #5
          Re: Deactivate browser's print function


          "Cartoper" <cartoper@gmail .comwrote in message
          news:1185630224 .358246.180630@ z24g2000prh.goo glegroups.com.. .
          On Jul 28, 9:25 am, Sherm Pendley <spamt...@dot-app.orgwrote:
          >Cartoper <carto...@gmail .comwrites:
          I hear it is possible to disable the web browsers print function
          >>
          >You heard wrong.
          >
          Bummer, what I heard, well read, exactly is:
          >
          Selecting the "Print only blank pages" option will prevent visitors
          from printing your pages. Any time someone uses the print function,
          either the browser will refuse to print (Internet Explorer 4.0 or
          higher) or only a blank page will be output (Netscape Navigator 6.0 or
          higher and Opera 4.0 or higher).
          >
          This function works with almost every CSS 2.0-enabled browser. Be
          aware that no warning is given, so users in this scenario may suspect
          a faulty printer or defective software.
          >
          source: http://www.aw-soft.com/htmlguard-security.html
          Har har.

          <oil src='snake'>

          To refute the claims made on the abovementioned page:

          1. Type some simple javascript into the address bar and the "source" is
          immediately visible. The real disadvantage of this approach is that those
          with javascript unavailable (estimated to be 10 to 15%) will never see the
          page. This is just like turning your server off for the month of December.

          2. Tidy (google for it). Tidies things up nicely.

          3. Stupid. Never seen a scroll bar?

          4. With one mouse click I can disable javascript. Then "no right click"
          scripts are disabled. Anyway I don't use my right mouse button to steal
          images. I left click/drag/drop them into my image editor. Going to disable
          my left mouse button as well?

          5. What "block text selection" option. a) Use another browser b)
          view:http://url.

          6. Most modern browsers dont allow clipboard disablement anyway.

          7. Har Har. Disable print? Use another browser or type view:http://url into
          your address bar. And what are you going to do once you have printed the
          page? Type it into an editor? You don't need a hardcopy for that, just two
          windows open.

          8. PHP3? Har har. Nothing done server side will stop me from saving your
          images. Nothing. Ever heard of Print Screen?

          It should be noted that most of the snake oil promulgated by this site
          assumes IE. People who would *want* to steal code are the least likely ones
          to be using IE.

          And those who *can* bypass the trivial barriers and steal the code and use
          it would be the very ones who could write it from scratch and do a far
          better job.

          Finallly:
          The desire to hide the HTML behind a page is inversly proportional to the
          value of that HTML to anybody else.

          </oil>



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          • Sherm Pendley

            #6
            Re: Deactivate browser's print function

            "rf" <rf@invalid.com writes:
            "Cartoper" <cartoper@gmail .comwrote in message
            news:1185630224 .358246.180630@ z24g2000prh.goo glegroups.com.. .>
            Har har.
            >
            <oil src='snake'>
            >
            To refute the claims made on the abovementioned page:
            ....
            </oil>
            I completely agree. In my opinion, such products aren't far short of out-
            right fraud - they're making claims about capabilities which they simply
            cannot deliver. Their business model is based on the fact that most people
            do not realize this, and believe the claims.

            Sadly, there's a sucker born every minute, so these frauds manage to stay
            in business.

            sherm--

            --
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            • Cartoper

              #7
              Re: Deactivate browser's print function

              On Jul 28, 10:45 am, Sherm Pendley <spamt...@dot-app.orgwrote:
              I completely agree. In my opinion, such products aren't far short of out-
              right fraud - they're making claims about capabilities which they simply
              cannot deliver. Their business model is based on the fact that most people
              do not realize this, and believe the claims.
              >
              Sadly, there's a sucker born every minute, so these frauds manage to stay
              in business.
              First off, I don't disagree that all these types of things are easy to
              get around, IF YOU KNOW HOW. Being a professional software developer
              I understand that it isn't a matter of if your code is stolen, but
              when is it stolen.

              On the other hand I think it is foolish not to put basic measures in
              place to "keep the honest people honest". I am putting together my
              photography studio web site and I want to at least let folks know that
              I don't want them taking my images. In the end I will leave it to
              their congest (how do you spell this work? I spend 10 minutes trying
              to figure it out and I cannot, please enlighten this poor fool that
              cannot smell!) as to go around my basic measures or not;)

              Cartoper

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              • Sherm Pendley

                #8
                Re: Deactivate browser's print function

                Cartoper <cartoper@gmail .comwrites:
                On the other hand I think it is foolish not to put basic measures in
                place to "keep the honest people honest".
                You're wasting your time. Honest people don't need such measures, and if
                you think they'll stop the dishonest ones you're just kidding yourself.
                Everybody and their dog knows how to disable JavaScript these days.
                I am putting together my
                photography studio web site and I want to at least let folks know that
                I don't want them taking my images.
                Then put a watermark on them. Just add a text layer in Photoshop that says
                "SAMPLE" and make that layer 85-90% (or so) transparent.

                It's simple, free, and (unlike a "solution" that only works if the user
                allows it to) is actually quite effective at preventing your online samples
                from being misused.

                sherm--

                --
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                • Ben C

                  #9
                  Re: Deactivate browser's print function

                  On 2007-07-28, Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.orgwrote:
                  "rf" <rf@invalid.com writes:
                  >
                  >"Cartoper" <cartoper@gmail .comwrote in message
                  >news:118563022 4.358246.180630 @z24g2000prh.go oglegroups.com. ..>>
                  >Har har.
                  >>
                  ><oil src='snake'>
                  >>
                  >To refute the claims made on the abovementioned page:
                  >
                  ...
                  >
                  ></oil>
                  >
                  I completely agree. In my opinion, such products aren't far short of out-
                  right fraud - they're making claims about capabilities which they simply
                  cannot deliver. Their business model is based on the fact that most people
                  do not realize this, and believe the claims.
                  The website was quite honest about it in this case though, explaining
                  what it does and why it doesn't really work.

                  When I saw aw-soft I thought is this Albert Wiersch again, but it seems
                  to be "Andreas Wulf Software".

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                  • David Dorward

                    #10
                    Re: Deactivate browser's print function

                    On Jul 28, 6:16 pm, Cartoper <carto...@gmail .comwrote:
                    On the other hand I think it is foolish not to put basic measures in
                    place to "keep the honest people honest".
                    Like the unskippable reminder that I shouldn't buy pirate DVDs that
                    appears before the main content on rather a large proportion of my
                    (bought and paid for) DVD collection?

                    Or the DRM on downloaded music that I have to strip off before I can
                    burn it to CD to listen to in the car?
                    I am putting together my photography studio web site and I want to at least let folks know that
                    I don't want them taking my images.
                    What do you lose if someone hits print to get a hard copy of a webpage
                    displaying your photo?

                    Surely it is going to be a low resolution version and have the
                    standard browser header/footer containing date stamps, URLs and the
                    like? Its not going to be much use for anything beyond "Hey boss, this
                    looks like a good picture for our thingy, shall we buy it?".


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                    • Stan Brown

                      #11
                      Re: Deactivate browser's print function

                      Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:19:28 GMT from rf <rf@invalid.com >:
                      Use another browser or type view:http://url into
                      your address bar.
                      Huh? What's that supposed to do?

                      In Mozilla, I get "view is not a registered protocol".

                      --
                      Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA

                      HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
                      validator: http://validator.w3.org/
                      CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
                      validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
                      Why We Won't Help You:

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                      • Stan Brown

                        #12
                        Re: Deactivate browser's print function

                        Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:45:36 -0500 from Ben C <spamspam@spam. eggs>:
                        When I saw aw-soft I thought is this Albert Wiersch again
                        "'Name him not!' said Gandalf, and for a moment it seemed that a
                        cloud of pain passed over his face, and he sat silent, looking old as
                        death."

                        --
                        Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA

                        HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
                        validator: http://validator.w3.org/
                        CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
                        validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
                        Why We Won't Help You:

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                        • rf

                          #13
                          Re: Deactivate browser's print function


                          "Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown @fastmail.fmwro te in message
                          news:MPG.211574 1ad1ecd9da98aef d@news.individu al.net...
                          Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:19:28 GMT from rf <rf@invalid.com >:
                          >Use another browser or type view:http://url into
                          >your address bar.
                          >
                          Huh? What's that supposed to do?
                          >
                          In Mozilla, I get "view is not a registered protocol".
                          view-source:

                          --
                          Richard.


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                          • Beauregard T. Shagnasty

                            #14
                            Re: Deactivate browser's print function

                            rf wrote:
                            "Stan Brown" wrote:
                            >Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:19:28 GMT from rf <rf@invalid.com >:
                            >>Use another browser or type view:http://url into your address bar.
                            >>
                            >Huh? What's that supposed to do?
                            >>
                            >In Mozilla, I get "view is not a registered protocol".
                            >
                            view-source:
                            ...and that just displays the encrypted source (in Firefox and
                            SeaMonkey). <g>

                            view-source:http://www.aw-soft.com/htmlguard-sample.html

                            --
                            -bts
                            -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

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                            • rf

                              #15
                              Re: Deactivate browser's print function


                              "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalidwr ote in message
                              news:CKRqi.8100 $ax1.2049@bgtns c05-news.ops.worldn et.att.net...
                              rf wrote:
                              >
                              >"Stan Brown" wrote:
                              >>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:19:28 GMT from rf <rf@invalid.com >:
                              >>>Use another browser or type view:http://url into your address bar.
                              >>>
                              >>Huh? What's that supposed to do?
                              >>>
                              >>In Mozilla, I get "view is not a registered protocol".
                              >>
                              >view-source:
                              >
                              ..and that just displays the encrypted source (in Firefox and
                              SeaMonkey). <g>
                              >
                              view-source:http://www.aw-soft.com/htmlguard-sample.html
                              The view-source comment was directed at snake oil point 5, the "block text
                              selection" option, to point out how silly it is to disable only one of the
                              many ways to achieve copy/paste. Like locking the door on your convertible
                              but leaving the top down.
                              --
                              -bts
                              -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

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