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  • Joni Nieminen

    Forum without sql-server?

    Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
    javascript..

    Help?!


  • Stephen Poley

    #2
    Re: Forum without sql-server?

    On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:51:59 +0300, "Joni Nieminen"
    <joni.nieminen@ pp.phnet.fi> wrote:
    [color=blue]
    >Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
    >javascript..[/color]

    You don't need SQL-server for a forum, but you do need server-side
    processing and some sort of database. Assuming budget is an issue for
    you, you could try looking at some of these:



    --
    Stephen Poley


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    • Joni Nieminen

      #3
      Re: Forum without sql-server?


      "D. Stussy" <spam@bde-arc.ampr.org> kirjoitti viestissä
      news:Pine.LNX.4 .64.06061401445 90.1307@kd6lvw. ampr.org...[color=blue]
      > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Stephen Poley wrote:[color=green]
      > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:51:59 +0300, "Joni Nieminen"
      > > <joni.nieminen@ pp.phnet.fi> wrote:
      > >[color=darkred]
      > > >Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
      > > >javascript..[/color]
      > >
      > > You don't need SQL-server for a forum, but you do need server-side
      > > processing and some sort of database. Assuming budget is an issue for
      > > you, you could try looking at some of these:
      > >
      > > http://www.opensourcecms.com/[/color]
      >
      > Actually, you don't even need the database! One can set up the forum[/color]
      areas as[color=blue]
      > local newsgroups and access them via PHP's extensions for NNTP. This
      > arrangement has the side-effect that if one wanted to link them to that of
      > other sites, all one has to do is remove the restrictions on transferring[/color]
      them[color=blue]
      > (in the newserver configuration; I'm thinking of inn).[/color]

      Thank you of those informations but I dont understand those terms :D
      Im just kid.. Can you give me complete html sites wich I need?


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      • Joni Nieminen

        #4
        Re: Forum without sql-server?


        "D. Stussy" <spam@bde-arc.ampr.org> kirjoitti viestissä
        news:Pine.LNX.4 .64.06061407105 20.1307@kd6lvw. ampr.org...[color=blue]
        > On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Joni Nieminen wrote:[color=green]
        > > "D. Stussy" <spam@bde-arc.ampr.org> kirjoitti viestissä
        > > news:Pine.LNX.4 .64.06061401445 90.1307@kd6lvw. ampr.org...[color=darkred]
        > > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Stephen Poley wrote:
        > > > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:51:59 +0300, "Joni Nieminen"
        > > > > <joni.nieminen@ pp.phnet.fi> wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > > >Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do[/color][/color][/color]
        little[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
        > > > > >javascript..
        > > > >
        > > > > You don't need SQL-server for a forum, but you do need server-side
        > > > > processing and some sort of database. Assuming budget is an issue[/color][/color][/color]
        for[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
        > > > > you, you could try looking at some of these:
        > > > >
        > > > > http://www.opensourcecms.com/
        > > >
        > > > Actually, you don't even need the database! One can set up the forum[/color]
        > > areas as[color=darkred]
        > > > local newsgroups and access them via PHP's extensions for NNTP. This
        > > > arrangement has the side-effect that if one wanted to link them to[/color][/color][/color]
        that of[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
        > > > other sites, all one has to do is remove the restrictions on[/color][/color][/color]
        transferring[color=blue][color=green]
        > > them[color=darkred]
        > > > (in the newserver configuration; I'm thinking of inn).[/color]
        > >
        > > Thank you of those informations but I dont understand those terms :D
        > > Im just kid.. Can you give me complete html sites wich I need?[/color]
        >
        > PHP is a scripting language. - see www.php.net
        > NNTP - you're using it now! "Usenet" or newsgroups are transmitted via[/color]
        NNTP.[color=blue]
        >[/color]

        I try to understand :) I have already done these sites
        http://koti.phnet.fi/jonisivu and http://koti.phnet.fi/pirjo05


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        • Andy Dingley

          #5
          Re: Forum without sql-server?


          Joni Nieminen wrote:[color=blue]
          > Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
          > javascript..[/color]

          It's really hard to write a forum. Hard stuff, and lots of it. So don't
          write your own, just download and install an existing one, such as
          phpBB.

          You'll need web hosting that supports PHP and MySQL , but that's not
          hard to find.

          NB - Keep the version up to date! This sort of forum software is prone
          to attacks by hackers and spammers. If you run an old version with
          known bugs in it, then you can get hit.

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          • Joni Nieminen

            #6
            Re: Forum without sql-server?


            <dingbat@codesm iths.com> kirjoitti viestissä
            news:1150274908 .273456.211930@ f6g2000cwb.goog legroups.com...[color=blue]
            >
            > Joni Nieminen wrote:[color=green]
            > > Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
            > > javascript..[/color]
            >
            > It's really hard to write a forum. Hard stuff, and lots of it. So don't
            > write your own, just download and install an existing one, such as
            > phpBB.
            >
            > You'll need web hosting that supports PHP and MySQL , but that's not
            > hard to find.
            >
            > NB - Keep the version up to date! This sort of forum software is prone
            > to attacks by hackers and spammers. If you run an old version with
            > known bugs in it, then you can get hit.
            >[/color]

            I solve the problem and did freewebs site and there where forum!

            Thank you all!




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            • pegasusflightresources@gmail.com

              #7
              Re: Forum without sql-server?

              Dear sir,
              By the way, you could easily host from home as long as you have a
              broadband connection. If you did this, then you could use a
              pre-written forum such as phpBB, which I am currently running, and
              install MySQL. That would be the simplest way of doing things, but I
              guess that a freewebs approach is okay. For your information, freewebs
              will charge you soon, as it restricts many different aspects of its
              free web pages in order to make money having people upgrade to a real
              web page from them. I personally like the concept of being able to
              host my own site. Barely any fees (pretty much the only fee is
              registering your domain) and complete control over your site.
              In any case, you will not be able to code a forum with JavaScript. You
              are required to use a server-side programming language, which is most
              likely to be PHP. Even if you tried, it still wouldn't work because
              JavaScript doesn't have much in terms of using or accessing databases.

              To dingbat@codesmi ths.com / kirjoitti viestissa:
              Dear sir,
              It isn't necessarily extensive to write a forum script, but it is hard.
              I have seen the concepts behind phpBB and phpNuke, and they use a
              fairly simple concept of writing to and accessing a database. The
              hardest part is probably just displaying the posts in their proper
              order and the actual HTML programming to get the pages. Even the
              schemes would be harder than just writing the database access and
              writing script. I agree, nobody really should have to write another
              forum program or script, so use phpBB.

              I have the honor to remain your most humble and Ob't Sv't in our war
              against the King.

              --
              Patrick Reilly
              1st Coy.
              Colonel Seth Warner's Regiment

              Joni Nieminen wrote:[color=blue]
              > <dingbat@codesm iths.com> kirjoitti viestissä
              > news:1150274908 .273456.211930@ f6g2000cwb.goog legroups.com...[color=green]
              > >
              > > Joni Nieminen wrote:[color=darkred]
              > > > Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
              > > > javascript..[/color]
              > >
              > > It's really hard to write a forum. Hard stuff, and lots of it. So don't
              > > write your own, just download and install an existing one, such as
              > > phpBB.
              > >
              > > You'll need web hosting that supports PHP and MySQL , but that's not
              > > hard to find.
              > >
              > > NB - Keep the version up to date! This sort of forum software is prone
              > > to attacks by hackers and spammers. If you run an old version with
              > > known bugs in it, then you can get hit.
              > >[/color]
              >
              > I solve the problem and did freewebs site and there where forum!
              >
              > Thank you all!
              >
              > http://koti.phnet.fi/jonisivu[/color]

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              • Chaddy2222

                #8
                Re: Forum without sql-server?


                pegasusflightre sources@gmail.c om wrote:[color=blue]
                > Dear sir,
                > By the way, you could easily host from home as long as you have a
                > broadband connection. If you did this, then you could use a
                > pre-written forum such as phpBB, which I am currently running, and
                > install MySQL. That would be the simplest way of doing things, but I
                > guess that a freewebs approach is okay. For your information, freewebs
                > will charge you soon, as it restricts many different aspects of its
                > free web pages in order to make money having people upgrade to a real
                > web page from them. I personally like the concept of being able to
                > host my own site. Barely any fees (pretty much the only fee is
                > registering your domain) and complete control over your site.[/color]
                The only concern I would have with that approach is server sicurity.
                You would need a good hardware Firewall and to limit requests to the
                server, so you do not get charged for useing to much bandwidth.
                But I think running something like Abyss would be ok for a test server
                on your local machine for testing sites would be fine.
                I would suggest buying a dedicated server.
                It means you have it fully sircured and less prone to outages etc etc.
                [color=blue]
                >[/color]
                In any case, you will not be able to code a forum with JavaScript.
                You[color=blue]
                > are required to use a server-side programming language, which is most
                > likely to be PHP. Even if you tried, it still wouldn't work because
                > JavaScript doesn't have much in terms of using or accessing databases.[/color]
                You could also use Pirl and CGI.
                [color=blue]
                >
                > To dingbat@codesmi ths.com / kirjoitti viestissa:
                > Dear sir,
                > It isn't necessarily extensive to write a forum script, but it is hard.
                > I have seen the concepts behind phpBB and phpNuke, and they use a
                > fairly simple concept of writing to and accessing a database. The
                > hardest part is probably just displaying the posts in their proper
                > order and the actual HTML programming to get the pages. Even the
                > schemes would be harder than just writing the database access and
                > writing script. I agree, nobody really should have to write another
                > forum program or script, so use PHPBB.[/color]
                Yes, I agree PHPBB works well and is easy to use, but the Op of this
                thread is just a kid, so he says.
                But, their are sites such as http://www.cjb.net that offer free forum
                hosting, so you could just create a forum their and post a link to it
                on your website.
                --
                Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.cjb.cc

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                • Joni Nieminen

                  #9
                  Re: Forum without sql-server?


                  "Chaddy2222 " <rockradio2000@ yahoo.com.au> kirjoitti viestissä
                  news:1150285656 .638244.199880@ u72g2000cwu.goo glegroups.com.. .[color=blue]
                  >
                  > pegasusflightre sources@gmail.c om wrote:[color=green]
                  > > Dear sir,
                  > > By the way, you could easily host from home as long as you have a
                  > > broadband connection. If you did this, then you could use a
                  > > pre-written forum such as phpBB, which I am currently running, and
                  > > install MySQL. That would be the simplest way of doing things, but I
                  > > guess that a freewebs approach is okay. For your information, freewebs
                  > > will charge you soon, as it restricts many different aspects of its
                  > > free web pages in order to make money having people upgrade to a real
                  > > web page from them. I personally like the concept of being able to
                  > > host my own site. Barely any fees (pretty much the only fee is
                  > > registering your domain) and complete control over your site.[/color]
                  > The only concern I would have with that approach is server sicurity.
                  > You would need a good hardware Firewall and to limit requests to the
                  > server, so you do not get charged for useing to much bandwidth.
                  > But I think running something like Abyss would be ok for a test server
                  > on your local machine for testing sites would be fine.
                  > I would suggest buying a dedicated server.
                  > It means you have it fully sircured and less prone to outages etc etc.
                  >[color=green]
                  > >[/color]
                  > In any case, you will not be able to code a forum with JavaScript.
                  > You[color=green]
                  > > are required to use a server-side programming language, which is most
                  > > likely to be PHP. Even if you tried, it still wouldn't work because
                  > > JavaScript doesn't have much in terms of using or accessing databases.[/color]
                  > You could also use Pirl and CGI.
                  >[color=green]
                  > >
                  > > To dingbat@codesmi ths.com / kirjoitti viestissa:
                  > > Dear sir,
                  > > It isn't necessarily extensive to write a forum script, but it is hard.
                  > > I have seen the concepts behind phpBB and phpNuke, and they use a
                  > > fairly simple concept of writing to and accessing a database. The
                  > > hardest part is probably just displaying the posts in their proper
                  > > order and the actual HTML programming to get the pages. Even the
                  > > schemes would be harder than just writing the database access and
                  > > writing script. I agree, nobody really should have to write another
                  > > forum program or script, so use PHPBB.[/color]
                  > Yes, I agree PHPBB works well and is easy to use, but the Op of this
                  > thread is just a kid, so he says.
                  > But, their are sites such as http://www.cjb.net that offer free forum
                  > hosting, so you could just create a forum their and post a link to it
                  > on your website.
                  > --
                  > Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.cjb.cc
                  >[/color]

                  Thanks :D and Im almost 16 years old.. but kid :P That freewebs forum is
                  good enough.. http://koti.phnet.fi/jonisivu thats my page... there is no all
                  stuff in english but finnish is.. I update when I have time and
                  interesting..


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                  • axlq

                    #10
                    Re: Forum without sql-server?

                    In article <U6Bjg.2463$mm6 .1376@reader1.n ews.jippii.net> ,
                    Joni Nieminen <joni.nieminen@ pp.phnet.fi> wrote:[color=blue]
                    >Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
                    >javascript..[/color]

                    In the early days of the web, Matt Wright developed a web forum
                    called WWWBoard using Perl scripts, which required no database,
                    no javascript, just HTML pages with CGI forms calling Perl
                    scripts. Posts are stored as separate pages with threading
                    information embedded in each, so no database is needed.

                    It still exists on Matt's Script Archive at
                    http://www.scriptarchive.com and although it's primitive by today's
                    standards, I continue to marvel at its elegance and simplicity.



                    -A

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                    • Sherm Pendley

                      #11
                      Re: Forum without sql-server?

                      axlq@spamcop.ne t (axlq) writes:
                      [color=blue]
                      > In article <U6Bjg.2463$mm6 .1376@reader1.n ews.jippii.net> ,
                      > Joni Nieminen <joni.nieminen@ pp.phnet.fi> wrote:[color=green]
                      >>Is there any code or script which do forum in the page! I can do little
                      >>javascript. .[/color]
                      >
                      > In the early days of the web, Matt Wright developed[/color]

                      .... a huge number of scripts which even he acknowledges (having learned
                      better) are insecure, poorly written, and should *not* be used.
                      [color=blue]
                      > It still exists on Matt's Script Archive at
                      > http://www.scriptarchive.com and although it's primitive by today's
                      > standards, I continue to marvel at its elegance and simplicity.[/color]

                      What I marvel at is the fact that even today, when MSA's shortcomings
                      are so well-known and thoroughly documented, people are *still* being
                      duped into using them.

                      Do yourself a favor - use the NMS versions instead:

                      <http://nms-cgi.sourceforge .net/faq_nms.html>

                      sherm--

                      --
                      Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
                      Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org

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                      • Harlan Messinger

                        #12
                        Re: Forum without sql-server?

                        pegasusflightre sources@gmail.c om wrote:[color=blue]
                        > Dear sir,
                        > By the way, you could easily host from home as long as you have a
                        > broadband connection.[/color]

                        And your ISP doesn't restrict you from hosting services.

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                        • pegasusflightresources@gmail.com

                          #13
                          Re: Forum without sql-server?


                          Harlan Messinger wrote:[color=blue]
                          > pegasusflightre sources@gmail.c om wrote:[color=green]
                          > > Dear sir,
                          > > By the way, you could easily host from home as long as you have a
                          > > broadband connection.[/color]
                          >
                          > And your ISP doesn't restrict you from hosting services.[/color]

                          Especially true, but I haven't experienced many that restrict you from
                          port 80. I guess being in Vermont doesn't help.

                          I have the honor to remain your most humble and Ob't Sv't in our war
                          against the King.

                          --
                          Patrick Reilly
                          1st Coy.
                          Colonel Seth Warner's Regiment

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                          • thsadmin
                            New Member
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1

                            #14
                            Sorry for Digging up an Old Thread.
                            But I have arrived here after searching for my Forum (FreeWebs Forum), I was seeing what other FreeWebs forums are available and my forums position on Google.

                            after reading the replies to this thread my answer is :

                            I have ran a few forums in the past, Yes some are Hosted for free but these are usually monetized with Google ad's, while some do allow personalisation and the ability to rid these ad's, it can be costly and tedious, but now I have found my favorite hosting service for my forums and it only costs $5 per. month and with the ability to ad adsense ($5 isn't much to generate through adsense) so site fees are covered easily.

                            I actually run several forums from the one forum, I start a thread and Cloak it with a "Short URL" address (others are available) and then use that thread to start another forum (you will see what I mean if you click the link in my signature).

                            And the alternative this kid used is FreeWebs, not a great choice as there isn't a forum hosted by them ? maybe he meant a Blog ? and once again there is a lot of fiddling with the script if you want to use Google adsense or other banner advertising.

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