IE 6 and favicons

[Thom Brando]

OK, I posted this question to comp.infosystem s.www.browsers.ms-windows and
got not a single response, so I'm hoping someone in this group might be able
to help me.

I'm having a real problem trying to get favicons to show up in IE 6. I've
created a favicon using Visual Studio. The file is named favicon.ico and
contains 4 icons:

16 x 16, 16 colors
16 x 16, 256 colors
32 x 32, 16 colors
32 x 32, 256 colors

I've put the file in the document root of my web server. When I hit the web
server root from Firefox or Mozilla, I see the icon in the address bar.
When I hit the web server root from IE, nada!

I thought favicons were originally an IE thing. But they don't work in IE?
(I just noticed for the first time that I don't see a favicon in IE for any
web site I visit, even sites like Yahoo and Google!)

Please prove to me that this is the group I can come to with my nastiest
questions, not that silly ms-windows group!

Thom

[Mark Parnell]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

Previously in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Thom Brando
<brando@comcast .net> said:
[color=blue]
> I thought favicons were originally an IE thing. But they don't work in IE?
> (I just noticed for the first time that I don't see a favicon in IE for any
> web site I visit, even sites like Yahoo and Google!)[/color]

IE only displays the favicon after the site is bookmarked.

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Mark Parnell

http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

[Chris Hope]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

Thom Brando wrote:
[color=blue]
> OK, I posted this question to comp.infosystem s.www.browsers.ms-windows
> and got not a single response, so I'm hoping someone in this group
> might be able to help me.
>
> I'm having a real problem trying to get favicons to show up in IE 6.
> I've
> created a favicon using Visual Studio. The file is named favicon.ico
> and contains 4 icons:
>
> 16 x 16, 16 colors
> 16 x 16, 256 colors
> 32 x 32, 16 colors
> 32 x 32, 256 colors
>
> I've put the file in the document root of my web server. When I hit
> the web server root from Firefox or Mozilla, I see the icon in the
> address bar. When I hit the web server root from IE, nada!
>
> I thought favicons were originally an IE thing. But they don't work
> in IE? (I just noticed for the first time that I don't see a favicon
> in IE for any web site I visit, even sites like Yahoo and Google!)
>
> Please prove to me that this is the group I can come to with my
> nastiest questions, not that silly ms-windows group![/color]

AFAIK they only work in IE when you actually bookmark a page.

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[Thom Brando]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

On 5/11/05 9:04 PM, "Mark Parnell" <webmaster@clar kecomputers.com .au> is
alleged to have written:
[color=blue]
> IE only displays the favicon after the site is bookmarked.[/color]

On 5/11/05 9:07 PM, "Chris Hope" <blackhole@elec trictoolbox.com > is alleged
to have written:
[color=blue]
> AFAIK they only work in IE when you actually bookmark a page.[/color]

Hmmmmm... they don't seem to be working for me, even when I bookmark a page.

I've tried using two different favicon files: one containing the four
images I described in my first post --

16 x 16, 16 colors
16 x 16, 256 colors
32 x 32, 16 colors
32 x 32, 256 colors

the other containing only a 16 x 16, 16-color image. Regardless of which
icon I put in my web server's document root, I see the icon immediately upon
visiting the site with Firefox, but I don't see the icon in my IE address
bar or on the Favorites menu, even after visiting the favicon's URL (in
which case the icon displays properly in the browser window) and bookmarking
the site's document root. I have even put the following element:

<link rel="shortcut icon" href="/favicon.ico">

in the head of the site's index.html file.

Can anyone think of anything else I'm not doing -- or doing wrong? This is
driving me nuts!

Thom

[kchayka]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

Thom Brando wrote:[color=blue]
> On 5/11/05 9:04 PM, "Mark Parnell" <webmaster@clar kecomputers.com .au> is
> alleged to have written:
>[color=green]
>> IE only displays the favicon after the site is bookmarked.[/color]
>
> Hmmmmm... they don't seem to be working for me, even when I bookmark a page.[/color]

Post a URL.

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[Thom Brando]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

On 5/15/05 7:13 AM, "kchayka" <usenet@c-net.us> is alleged to have written:
[color=blue]
> Thom Brando wrote:[color=green]
>> On 5/11/05 9:04 PM, "Mark Parnell" <webmaster@clar kecomputers.com .au> is
>> alleged to have written:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> IE only displays the favicon after the site is bookmarked.[/color]
>>
>> Hmmmmm... they don't seem to be working for me, even when I bookmark a page.[/color]
>
> Post a URL.[/color]

Unfortunately, I cannot. I'm working on a corporate intranet and don't have
access to the document root of a server outside the firewall.

Since my last posting, I have found that IE will show the favicon from
www.comcast.net (after I've bookmarked the page). I downloaded /favicon.ico
from this site, opened it with Visual Studio 2003, and found it contained a
single, 16-color, 16 x 16 image. And yet, when I generate an icon file with
a single, 16-color, 16 x 16 image in it, IE doesn't show it (even after I
bookmark my server)!

If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to try them. Otherwise, I'm
ready to give up.

Thom

[Grant Smith - eNVENT Technologies]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

Thom Brando wrote:[color=blue]
> On 5/15/05 7:13 AM, "kchayka" <usenet@c-net.us> is alleged to have written:
>
>[color=green]
>>Thom Brando wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>On 5/11/05 9:04 PM, "Mark Parnell" <webmaster@clar kecomputers.com .au> is
>>>alleged to have written:
>>>
>>>
>>>>IE only displays the favicon after the site is bookmarked.
>>>
>>>Hmmmmm... they don't seem to be working for me, even when I bookmark a page.[/color]
>>
>>Post a URL.[/color]
>
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot. I'm working on a corporate intranet and don't have
> access to the document root of a server outside the firewall.
>
> Since my last posting, I have found that IE will show the favicon from
> www.comcast.net (after I've bookmarked the page). I downloaded /favicon.ico
> from this site, opened it with Visual Studio 2003, and found it contained a
> single, 16-color, 16 x 16 image. And yet, when I generate an icon file with
> a single, 16-color, 16 x 16 image in it, IE doesn't show it (even after I
> bookmark my server)!
>
> If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to try them. Otherwise, I'm
> ready to give up.
>
> Thom
>[/color]
Try deleting your bookmark and clearing your cache and history. Then, go
back to the site and bookmark it again. It /should/ show after that.

--
Grant Smith
A+, Net+, MCP x 2

eNVENT Technologies - www.envent-tech.com

[Thom Brando]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

On 5/15/05 4:09 PM, "Grant Smith - eNVENT Technologies"
<grant.smith@en vent-tech.com> is alleged to have written:
[color=blue]
> Thom Brando wrote:[color=green]
>> On 5/15/05 7:13 AM, "kchayka" <usenet@c-net.us> is alleged to have written:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Thom Brando wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/11/05 9:04 PM, "Mark Parnell" <webmaster@clar kecomputers.com .au> is
>>>> alleged to have written:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> IE only displays the favicon after the site is bookmarked.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmmm... they don't seem to be working for me, even when I bookmark a
>>>> page.
>>>
>>> Post a URL.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, I cannot. I'm working on a corporate intranet and don't have
>> access to the document root of a server outside the firewall.
>>
>> Since my last posting, I have found that IE will show the favicon from
>> www.comcast.net (after I've bookmarked the page). I downloaded /favicon.ico
>> from this site, opened it with Visual Studio 2003, and found it contained a
>> single, 16-color, 16 x 16 image. And yet, when I generate an icon file with
>> a single, 16-color, 16 x 16 image in it, IE doesn't show it (even after I
>> bookmark my server)!
>>
>> If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to try them. Otherwise, I'm
>> ready to give up.
>>
>> Thom
>>[/color]
> Try deleting your bookmark and clearing your cache and history. Then, go
> back to the site and bookmark it again. It /should/ show after that.[/color]

No go. I deleted my bookmark, cleared my cache and history, quit IE,
restarted IE, visited the site, bookmarked the site, and I still don't see
the favicon. If I visit the url of the favicon, I see it in the browser's
document area, but I never see it in the address bar or on the Favorites
menu.

[Adrienne]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Thom Brando <brando@comcast .net>
writing in news:BEAD2CCD.1 02C7%brando@com cast.net:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Try deleting your bookmark and clearing your cache and history. Then,
>> go back to the site and bookmark it again. It /should/ show after
>> that.[/color]
>
> No go. I deleted my bookmark, cleared my cache and history, quit IE,
> restarted IE, visited the site, bookmarked the site, and I still don't
> see the favicon. If I visit the url of the favicon, I see it in the
> browser's document area, but I never see it in the address bar or on
> the Favorites menu.
>[/color]

Are you sure it is a true icon file and not a file named .ico?

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[Thom Brando]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

On 5/16/05 2:37 AM, "Adrienne" <arbpen2003@sbc global.net> is alleged to have
written:
[color=blue]
> Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Thom Brando <brando@comcast .net>
> writing in news:BEAD2CCD.1 02C7%brando@com cast.net:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Try deleting your bookmark and clearing your cache and history. Then,
>>> go back to the site and bookmark it again. It /should/ show after
>>> that.[/color]
>>
>> No go. I deleted my bookmark, cleared my cache and history, quit IE,
>> restarted IE, visited the site, bookmarked the site, and I still don't
>> see the favicon. If I visit the url of the favicon, I see it in the
>> browser's document area, but I never see it in the address bar or on
>> the Favorites menu.
>>[/color]
>
> Are you sure it is a true icon file and not a file named .ico?[/color]

Yes. I created it with Visual Studio 2003.

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

Thom Brando wrote:[color=blue]
> Yes. I created it with Visual Studio 2003.[/color]

Since other favicons work for you, and your own doesn't, it is only
logical to assume that the one you created is not a true icon file.

I don't think we can help any more until you post it somewhere and we
can examine it. Does your personal ISP have web space?

Try creating your icon with the free program Irfanview.

http://irfanview.com/

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[Thom Brando]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

On 5/16/05 10:45 AM, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid>
is alleged to have written:
[color=blue]
> Thom Brando wrote:[color=green]
>> Yes. I created it with Visual Studio 2003.[/color]
>
> Since other favicons work for you, and your own doesn't, it is only
> logical to assume that the one you created is not a true icon file.
>
> I don't think we can help any more until you post it somewhere and we
> can examine it. Does your personal ISP have web space?
>
> Try creating your icon with the free program Irfanview.
> http://irfanview.com/[/color]

http://home.comcast.net/~brando/favicon.ico

Thom

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

Thom Brando wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>> I don't think we can help any more until you post it somewhere
>> and we can examine it. Does your personal ISP have web space?[/color]
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~brando/favicon.ico[/color]

Yours: 2,238 bytes of 32x32x24.
Mine: 894 bytes of 16x16x24

Yours is not a suitable icon. Problem solved. <g>

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[Thom Brando]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

On 5/16/05 7:03 PM, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid>
is alleged to have written:
[color=blue]
> Thom Brando wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> I don't think we can help any more until you post it somewhere
>>> and we can examine it. Does your personal ISP have web space?[/color]
>>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~brando/favicon.ico[/color]
>
> Yours: 2,238 bytes of 32x32x24.
> Mine: 894 bytes of 16x16x24
>
> Yours is not a suitable icon. Problem solved. <g>[/color]

OK, the 16x16 I understand. Does the "24" mean 24-bit color?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Re: IE 6 and favicons

Thom Brando wrote:[color=blue]
> On 5/16/05 7:03 PM, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
> <a.nony.mous@ex ample.invalid> is alleged to have written:
>[color=green]
>> Thom Brando wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> I don't think we can help any more until you post it
>>>> somewhere and we can examine it. Does your personal ISP have
>>>> web space?
>>>
>>> http://home.comcast.net/~brando/favicon.ico[/color]
>>
>> Yours: 2,238 bytes of 32x32x24.
>> Mine: 894 bytes of 16x16x24
>>
>> Yours is not a suitable icon. Problem solved. <g>[/color]
>
> OK, the 16x16 I understand. Does the "24" mean 24-bit color?[/color]

24 BPP (bits per pixel)

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