table cell border and css

[quickcur@yahoo.com]

here is my css

table#bartb {
border : 1px solid;
width : 100%;
}

table#bartb td {
border : 1px solid;
color : #ffffff;
padding : 0px;
margin : 0px;
background : #679999;
text-align : right;
font : bold white xx-small Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}

here is my html

<table id=bartb>
<tr>
<td>Empty cell row</td>
<td> </td>
</tr>
</table>

I found that the border of the second cell is not printed. How can I
get it printed?
Thanks,

qq

[David Dorward]

Re: table cell border and css

quickcur@yahoo. com wrote:

[color=blue]
> <td>Empty cell row</td>
> <td> </td>[/color]
[color=blue]
> I found that the border of the second cell is not printed. How can I
> get it printed?[/color]

http://w3.org/TR/CSS2/tables.html#propdef-empty-cells

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[Jukka K. Korpela]

Re: table cell border and css

quickcur@yahoo. com wrote:
[color=blue]
> here is my css[/color]

If your problem is essentially a CSS question, as you seem to think
yourself, then this is a wrong group.

You should post the URL, not snippets of code.
[color=blue]
> font : bold white xx-small Verdana, Arial, Helvetica,[/color]

Working hard to make text illegible to most people, are you not?
[color=blue]
> <table id=bartb>
> <tr>
> <td>Empty cell row</td>
> <td> </td>
> </tr>
> </table>[/color]

Doesn't look like a tabular structure to me.
[color=blue]
> I found that the border of the second cell is not printed. How can I
> get it printed?[/color]

David gave you a pointer to the CSS solution.

Here in the HTML group I might mention that you could use
<td>&nbsp;</td> instead of <td> </td> to get the borders.
This is an ugly hack, but it has a semi-official status.

On the other hand, &nbsp; is a character (the no-break space), which thus
has some width and height, so the cell cannot be made arbitrarily small.
There are other workarounds to this, but why don't you explain what you are
really trying to achieve, illustrating this with a nice juicy URL?

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[quickcur@yahoo.com]

Re: table cell border and css

You printed out a long anser, none of the lines is useful to me and
other readers.
[color=blue]
> If your problem is essentially a CSS question, as you seem to think
> yourself, then this is a wrong group.[/color]

Why can not we post css question here? Is not css and html related?
Also, I do not know it is a css problem or a html problem yet.
[color=blue]
> You should post the URL, not snippets of code.
>[color=green]
> > font : bold white xx-small Verdana, Arial, Helvetica,[/color]
>[/color]

I have hundreds of people visit my site, no of them complain about the
font. I was trying to make my site looks nice. I do not want to
sacrifice the appearance just because 0.1% people can not see the font.
[color=blue]
> Working hard to make text illegible to most people, are you not?
>[color=green]
> > <table id=bartb>
> > <tr>
> > <td>Empty cell row</td>
> > <td> </td>
> > </tr>
> > </table>[/color]
>
> Doesn't look like a tabular structure to me.
>[/color]

So what's your tabular structure?

I do not like the way you write. If you do not like help people, why do
you visit and post here?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Re: table cell border and css

quickcur@yahoo. com wrote:
[color=blue]
> You printed out a long anser, none of the lines is useful to me and
> other readers.[/color]

Au contraire.
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> font : bold white xx-small Verdana, Arial, Helvetica,[/color][/color]
>
> I have hundreds of people visit my site, no of them complain about
> the font.[/color]

Most people will simply leave a site they cannot read, go back to the
search engine of choice and pick another one.
[color=blue]
> I was trying to make my site looks nice. I do not want to sacrifice
> the appearance just because 0.1% people can not see the font.[/color]

I'd say that xx-small (when Verdana is not present) is unreadable to
far more than 0.1%. It would be to me. Do be aware that not everyone
*has* Verdana on their computers. Just because you have Verdana, and
good eyesight, is no reason to set your site's font at anything other
than a size of ... 100%.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/verdana.html

[color=blue]
> I do not like the way you write. If you do not like help people,
> why do you visit and post here?[/color]

It was good advice.

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[Barbara de Zoete]

Re: table cell border and css

On 5 Feb 2005 08:38:15 -0800, <quickcur@yahoo .com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I do not like the way you write. If you do not like help people, why do
> you visit and post here?
>[/color]

Damn, yet another fool who thinks he can order others around like it is his
personal helpdesk.

Look here dude, if you don't like what you get here, get a refund. The advise
given was solid and good. It is not Jukka's fault you lack knowledge to
rackognise its worth.

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Re: table cell border and css

On 5 Feb 2005 08:38:15 -0800, quickcur@yahoo. com wrote:

[color=blue]
>I have hundreds of people visit my site, no of them complain about the
>font. I was trying to make my site looks nice. I do not want to
>sacrifice the appearance just because 0.1% people can not see the font.
>[/color]

Oh! Another artist.

Geo

[Brian]

Re: table cell border and css

quickcur@yahoo. com wrote:[color=blue]
> You printed out a long anser, none of the lines is useful to me and
> other readers.[/color]

It is only useful to those who are open-minded enough to see its worth.
[color=blue]
> Why can not we post css question here?[/color]

You can. But you'll get more help about css in a group dedicated to css,
don't you think? And comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.stylesheets is just
one door down from comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html.
[color=blue]
> I have hundreds of people visit my site, no of them complain about
> the font.[/color]

They never do. They put up with it or go elsewhere.
[color=blue]
> I was trying to make my site looks nice.[/color]

looks nice != unreadable
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>><table id=bartb>
>>> <tr>
>>> <td>Empty cell row</td>
>>> <td> </td>
>>> </tr>
>>></table>[/color]
>>
>>Doesn't look like a tabular structure to me.
>>[/color]
>
>
> So what's your tabular structure?[/color]

Here are pages with <table> elements that hold tabular data:

http://www.tsmchughs.com/menus/wine

http://www.tsmchughs.com/contact/

http://www.julietremblay.com/portfolio/catalogue

[color=blue]
> I do not like the way you write.[/color]

Then you got what you paid for. Take something useful from it or not.
That's your choice.

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[Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz]

Re: table cell border and css

In <1107621495.851 231.103140@f14g 2000cwb.googleg roups.com>, on
02/05/2005
at 08:38 AM, quickcur@yahoo. com said:
[color=blue]
>I do not want to sacrifice the appearance just because 0.1% people
>can not see the font.[/color]

Tonto, you have no way of knowing how many people can't see your font.
Most will simply ignore your site rather than complaining.
[color=blue]
>I do not like the way you write.[/color]

And I don't like the way that you write.
[color=blue]
>If you do not like help people, why do you visit and post here?[/color]

If you don't want to accept the help that is offered, why do you ask
for help?

He was helping you; you were just to stubborn to accept his help.

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[Ge Cong]

Re: table cell border and css

First of all, I have the right to say what I think. Second, I have the
right to say "fool" too, but I never use it in a tech community.

[Stephen Poley]

Re: table cell border and css

On 5 Feb 2005 08:38:15 -0800, quickcur@yahoo. com wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> You should post the URL, not snippets of code.
>>[color=darkred]
>> > font : bold white xx-small Verdana, Arial, Helvetica,[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>I have hundreds of people visit my site, no of them complain about the
>font.[/color]

Just out of curiosity: how do you suppose that someone who can't read
your site is going to be able to send you a complaint?

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http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/

[quickcur@yahoo.com]

Re: table cell border and css

We are in the same company, and if they can not read my site, they lost
their job.

Stephen Poley wrote:[color=blue]
> On 5 Feb 2005 08:38:15 -0800, quickcur@yahoo. com wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> You should post the URL, not snippets of code.
> >>
> >> > font : bold white xx-small Verdana, Arial, Helvetica,
> >>[/color]
> >
> >I have hundreds of people visit my site, no of them complain about[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> >font.[/color]
>
> Just out of curiosity: how do you suppose that someone who can't read
> your site is going to be able to send you a complaint?
>
> --
> Stephen Poley
>
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/[/color]

[quickcur@yahoo.com]

Re: table cell border and css

You think you can fuck around because you have given some help?

[quickcur@yahoo.com]

Re: table cell border and css

You are the fool

[quickcur@yahoo.com]

Re: table cell border and css

You are the fool