How to make font size constant in HTML

[Frances Del Rio]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML

Nirvana wrote:[color=blue]
> How to make the font size constant in HTML code, so that in a web
> browser it remains fixed.
> For e.g in IE if you press CTRL and move mouse wheel front or back the
> font size changes,[/color]

use styles, thus:

p,td {font-size:11px}

if you use px as opposed to pt, percentages or anything else font size
will remain constant. Many people in this ng and elsewhere feel it's
bad practice to do this, but I feel differently, as many users don't
even know they can adjust font-size on the browser and sometimes fonts
come out horribly large, not because user needs it to be like that, but
b/c they don't know how to control it.. anyway, my two cents here, take
it or leave it.. pls see

http://www.francesdelrio.com/resume/

font sizes in body of this page remain constant even if user tries to
change it by doing view -> text size in IE..

again, my issue here: I like Netscape, in which you specify what
font-size browser should use IF author hasn't specified font size, in IE
there's no such thing.. in IE I always have to change font size for
every page I view, as font usu. comes out too large (again, IF author
has not specified font size..)

Frances

[Andreas Prilop]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Frances Del Rio wrote:
[color=blue]
> [...] but I feel differently, as many users don't
> even know they can adjust font-size on the browser and sometimes fonts
> come out horribly large, not because user needs it to be like that, but
> b/c they don't know how to control it..[/color]

That's nothing! Just think of all those poor people who don't know
how to adjust their seat belts.

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Top-posting.
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[Lachlan Hunt]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML

Frances Del Rio wrote:[color=blue]
> p,td {font-size:11px}
>
> if you use px as opposed to pt, percentages or anything else font size
> will remain constant.>[/color]

Only in IE, but *DO NOT* do that!

http://diveintoaccessibility.org/day_26_using_relative_font_sizes.html

[color=blue]
> http://www.francesdelrio.com/resume/
>
> font sizes in body of this page remain constant even if user tries to
> change it by doing view -> text size in IE..[/color]

Well, I'm glad I don't use IE. My sight isn't that bad, but it's still
not comfortable for me to read something that small. I often increase
text size, and you should not try to prevent me from doing so.
[color=blue]
> again, my issue here: I like Netscape, in which you specify what
> font-size browser should use IF author hasn't specified font size, in IE
> there's no such thing..[/color]

Well, that's just another reasons people should switch to a descent
browser, but it's no reason to abuse the system and make your site
inaccessible to IE users with poor eyesight.
[color=blue]
> in IE I always have to change font size for every page I view, as font
> usu. comes out too large (again, IF author has not specified font size..)[/color]

Isn't that being rather hypocritical? First you recommend the author
use pixel units that prevent IE users resizing the text size, but then
admit that you often change the text size yourself to suit your needs!

--
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[Harlan Messinger]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML


"Frances Del Rio" <fdr58@yahoo.co m> wrote in message
news:2vun1iF2pu iddU1@uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
> Nirvana wrote:[color=green]
> > How to make the font size constant in HTML code, so that in a web
> > browser it remains fixed.
> > For e.g in IE if you press CTRL and move mouse wheel front or back the
> > font size changes,[/color]
>
> use styles, thus:
>
> p,td {font-size:11px}
>
> if you use px as opposed to pt, percentages or anything else font size
> will remain constant. Many people in this ng and elsewhere feel it's
> bad practice to do this, but I feel differently, as many users don't
> even know they can adjust font-size on the browser and sometimes fonts
> come out horribly large, not because user needs it to be like that, but
> b/c they don't know how to control it.. anyway, my two cents here, take
> it or leave it.. pls see[/color]

Because some people don't know they can change the size, you disable the
option for people who know how to and *need* to. Very logical. As for the
people for whom the text comes out too terribly large--what, are you afraid
that your dazzling text will render them blind?

[Frances Del Rio]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML

Lachlan Hunt wrote:
[color=blue]
> Frances Del Rio wrote:
>[color=green]
>> p,td {font-size:11px}
>>
>> if you use px as opposed to pt, percentages or anything else font size
>> will remain constant.>[/color]
>
>
> Only in IE, but *DO NOT* do that!
> http://diveintoaccessibility.org/day...ont_sizes.html
>[color=green]
>> http://www.francesdelrio.com/resume/
>>
>> font sizes in body of this page remain constant even if user tries to
>> change it by doing view -> text size in IE..[/color]
>
>
> Well, I'm glad I don't use IE. My sight isn't that bad, but it's still
> not comfortable for me to read something that small. I often increase
> text size, and you should not try to prevent me from doing so.
>[color=green]
>> again, my issue here: I like Netscape, in which you specify what
>> font-size browser should use IF author hasn't specified font size, in
>> IE there's no such thing..[/color]
>
>
> Well, that's just another reasons people should switch to a descent
> browser, but it's no reason to abuse the system and make your site
> inaccessible to IE users with poor eyesight.
>[color=green]
>> in IE I always have to change font size for every page I view, as font
>> usu. comes out too large (again, IF author has not specified font size..)[/color]
>
>
> Isn't that being rather hypocritical? First you recommend the author
> use pixel units that prevent IE users resizing the text size, but then
> admit that you often change the text size yourself to suit your needs![/color]

Font comes out too large ONLY IF author hasn't specified size, if author
HAS specified size, I'm willing to live w/what author has specified..

[Michael Fesser]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML

.oO(Frances Del Rio)
[color=blue]
>Font comes out too large ONLY IF author hasn't specified size,[/color]

You're free to adjust it in your browser. If no font-size is specified
the browser will use its default.
[color=blue]
>if author
>HAS specified size, I'm willing to live w/what author has specified..[/color]

I'm not. I use a minimum font-size of 13px in my browsers, regardless of
what the author may have declared.

Micha

[Michael Fesser]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML

.oO(Frances Del Rio)
[color=blue]
>use styles, thus:
>
>p,td {font-size:11px}
>
>if you use px as opposed to pt, percentages or anything else font size
>will remain constant.[/color]

Nope. All graphical browsers allow the user to adjust font-size as
needed, even IE (a bit more complicated sometimes, but still possible).
[color=blue]
>Many people in this ng and elsewhere feel it's
>bad practice to do this,[/color]

It _is_ bad practice.
[color=blue]
>but I feel differently, as many users don't
>even know they can adjust font-size on the browser and sometimes fonts
>come out horribly large,[/color]

Better too large than too small.

BTW, that's not the point. Usually people asking for fixed font-sizes
only need it to keep their broken layout together, because it collapses
with bigger fonts. The only way to fix that is to change the layout to
be more flexible.

Micha

[Harlan Messinger]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML


"Michael Fesser" <netizen@gmx.ne t> wrote in message
news:j7ikp01lig d7doe3r63d73kvt 3cjtl7frd@4ax.c om...[color=blue]
> .oO(Frances Del Rio)
>[color=green]
> >use styles, thus:
> >
> >p,td {font-size:11px}
> >
> >if you use px as opposed to pt, percentages or anything else font size
> >will remain constant.[/color]
>
> Nope. All graphical browsers allow the user to adjust font-size as
> needed, even IE (a bit more complicated sometimes, but still possible).
>[color=green]
> >Many people in this ng and elsewhere feel it's
> >bad practice to do this,[/color]
>
> It _is_ bad practice.
>[color=green]
> >but I feel differently, as many users don't
> >even know they can adjust font-size on the browser and sometimes fonts
> >come out horribly large,[/color]
>
> Better too large than too small.
>
> BTW, that's not the point. Usually people asking for fixed font-sizes
> only need it to keep their broken layout together, because it collapses
> with bigger fonts.[/color]

And in that case, it probably means the author wrote the page for only one
browser and doesn't realize that the text flows differently in other
browsers and breaks things even if the font is nominally the same size.

[Jan Roland Eriksson]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:10:00 -0500, Frances Del Rio <fdr58@yahoo.co m>
wrote:
[...][color=blue]
>http://www.francesdelrio.com/resume/[/color]

That page comes out as filled with "fliegen dreck" over here, but I
guess you already knew that :-/
[color=blue]
>font sizes in body of this page remain constant even if user tries to
>change it by doing view -> text size in IE..[/color]

Yea; stupid, isn't it.

--
Rex

[Frances Del Rio]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML



Jan Roland Eriksson wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:10:00 -0500, Frances Del Rio <fdr58@yahoo.co m>
> wrote:
> [...]
>[color=green]
>>http://www.francesdelrio.com/resume/[/color]
>
>
> That page comes out as filled with "fliegen dreck" over here, but I
> guess you already knew that :-/
>
>[color=green]
>>font sizes in body of this page remain constant even if user tries to
>>change it by doing view -> text size in IE..[/color]
>
> Yea; stupid, isn't it.[/color]

yo y'all, I said it's my two cents, take it or leave it.. have fun
all.. Frances

[Harlan Messinger]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML


"Frances Del Rio" <fdr58@yahoo.co m> wrote in message
news:2vvb00F2q9 jmkU1@uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
>
>
> Jan Roland Eriksson wrote:[color=green]
> > On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:10:00 -0500, Frances Del Rio <fdr58@yahoo.co m>
> > wrote:
> > [...]
> >[color=darkred]
> >>http://www.francesdelrio.com/resume/[/color]
> >
> >
> > That page comes out as filled with "fliegen dreck" over here, but I
> > guess you already knew that :-/
> >
> >[color=darkred]
> >>font sizes in body of this page remain constant even if user tries to
> >>change it by doing view -> text size in IE..[/color]
> >
> > Yea; stupid, isn't it.[/color]
>
> yo y'all, I said it's my two cents, take it or leave it.. have fun
> all.. Frances[/color]

Yup, stay the course! The damage be damned.

[Lachlan Hunt]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML

Frances Del Rio wrote:[color=blue]
> Font comes out too large ONLY IF author hasn't specified size, if author
> HAS specified size, I'm willing to live w/what author has specified..[/color]

That makes no sense. If I specify:
body { font-size: 1em; }
or even
body { font-size: 1.2em }

Then, technically, I have specified a font size, but the first is the
default size, and the second is slightly bigger, both or which are
obviously too big to you. So, your statement is incorrect, or you have
incorrectly assumed that when an author specifies a font size, that they
will choose one smaller than the default.

--
Lachlan Hunt

http://lachy.id.au/

http://GetFirefox.com/ Rediscover the Web
http://SpreadFirefox.com/ Igniting the Web

[Neal]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 01:36:23 GMT, Lachlan Hunt <spam.my.gspot@ gmail.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
> Frances Del Rio wrote:[color=green]
>> Font comes out too large ONLY IF author hasn't specified size, if
>> author HAS specified size, I'm willing to live w/what author has
>> specified..[/color]
>
> That makes no sense. If I specify:
> body { font-size: 1em; }[/color]

... then you run into bugs in IE...
[color=blue]
> Then, technically, I have specified a font size, but the first is the
> default size, and the second is slightly bigger, both or which are
> obviously too big to you.[/color]

The proper declaration in body can only be

font-size: 100;

else the wrath of Gates ruins everything. Though I agree, if this is too
big for you,m it;s your own damn fault.

[Mark Parnell]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML

Previously in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Neal
<neal413@yahoo. com> said:
[color=blue]
> The proper declaration in body can only be
>
> font-size: 100;[/color]

Hobnobs?

--
Mark Parnell

http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

[Neal]

Re: How to make font size constant in HTML

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:17:45 +1100, Mark Parnell
<webmaster@clar kecomputers.com .au> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Previously in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html, Neal
> <neal413@yahoo. com> said:
>[color=green]
>> The proper declaration in body can only be
>>
>> font-size: 100;[/color]
>
> Hobnobs?[/color]

Typo. %.

But hobnobs would do.