cannot type greek fonts to IE

[Alan J. Flavell]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Kris wrote:
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> We? You mean, others build the world to what it is and you decided
> one day to come along and conveniantly claim you participated in
> that.[/color]

"The mouse pissed in the ocean, and cried 'I helped to make it' "
(I'm assured that it's an old Albanian proverb).

[Brian]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

George Hester wrote:[color=blue]
> "Brian"...
>
>[color=green]
>> So, you're being persecuted like Galileo was? Have you been placed
>> under house arrest by the inline post police?[/color]
>
>
> The point is when users get it in their craw that doing something
> should be done and when it's not they get angry is similar to what
> happened to Galileo.[/color]


I'm sorry, but comparing yourself to Galileo is simply too rediculous.

*plonk*

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Brian (remove "invalid" to email me)

[Neal]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:39:39 GMT, George Hester <hesterloli@hot mail.com>
wrote:
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> Did I? Hmph interesting. I don't like bottom posting and by virtue of
> that I made the electron microscope?
> I have moved into the Modern World. And as far as I know my only
> contribution to that was being born.
> Of course Top posters don't deserve to have been born. Understood but
> that's "The Way of The World."[/color]

You are either totally self-absorbed or a very humorous troll.

I shall end this here.

[Andreas Prilop]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004, George Hester wrote:
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>> How about
>> <http://www.google.com. gr/webhp?hl=el&oe= ISO-8859-7>
>>
>> --
>> Top-posting.
>> What's the most irritating thing on Usenet?[/color]
>
> Ummm...
> Bottom-posting. Yuck.
> I can't stand it. It serves no useful purpose and I already read the replied-to poster's response why do I need to
> see it again? Yuck!!![/color]

Where you successful in searching Greek text with the above URL?
For example,
<http://google.com.gr/search?ie=ISO-8859-7&oe=ISO-8859-7&q=%E7%EB%DF%E 8%E9%E5>
should display fine in Netscape 4.x and Internet Explorer.

--
Top-posting.
What's the most irritating thing on Usenet?

[Daniel R. Tobias]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

"George Hester" <hesterloli@hot mail.com> wrote in message news:<QQwcd.840 1$JS4.5748@twis ter.nyroc.rr.co m>...[color=blue]
> Whining is what you hear. I hear disagreement with this convention.
> It's as simple as that. I only do it to keep those that demand it from
> going balistic. If there is some benefit to it your attempt to explain
> it was admirable. Trouble is we have moved into the Modern World. We
> are in the 21st Century you know. And what was beneficial in ancient
> times may no longer be. But of course that's whining so I'll bow out.[/color]

I've got some discussion of the quoting issue in my site, where I try
to be reasonably balanced despite my dislike of top-posters:

http://mailformat.dan.info/quoting/

--
Dan

[George Hester]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

"Daniel R. Tobias" <dan@tobias.nam e> wrote in message news:aab17256.0 410180610.46d99 079@posting.goo gle.com...[color=blue]
> "George Hester" <hesterloli@hot mail.com> wrote in message news:<QQwcd.840 1$JS4.5748@twis ter.nyroc.rr.co m>...[color=green]
> > Whining is what you hear. I hear disagreement with this convention.
> > It's as simple as that. I only do it to keep those that demand it from
> > going balistic. If there is some benefit to it your attempt to explain
> > it was admirable. Trouble is we have moved into the Modern World. We
> > are in the 21st Century you know. And what was beneficial in ancient
> > times may no longer be. But of course that's whining so I'll bow out. [/color]
>
> I've got some discussion of the quoting issue in my site, where I try
> to be reasonably balanced despite my dislike of top-posters:
>
> http://mailformat.dan.info/quoting/
>
> --
> Dan[/color]

Dan,
you know if I could just set Outlook Express to use bottom posting I would for those who like it. Currently reading what you have to see what my options are. I still don't like it but I dislike upsetting people here more. Thanks fot that link. It was refreshing not to be lynched for once on this issue.

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George Hester
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[George Hester]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

"Brian" <usenet3@juliet remblay.com.inv alid> wrote in message news:TEDcd.4219 $OD2.1537@bgtns c05-news.ops.worldn et.att.net...[color=blue]
> George Hester wrote:[color=green]
> > "Brian"...
> >
> > [color=darkred]
> >> So, you're being persecuted like Galileo was? Have you been placed
> >> under house arrest by the inline post police?[/color]
> >
> >
> > The point is when users get it in their craw that doing something
> > should be done and when it's not they get angry is similar to what
> > happened to Galileo.[/color]
>
>
> I'm sorry, but comparing yourself to Galileo is simply too rediculous.
>
> *plonk*
>
> --
> Brian (remove "invalid" to email me)[/color]

See Brian. You couldn't even recognize I was not comparing myself to Galileo. I was comparing you to those he was battling. People like you are like those he was battling. I am not Galieo I am the brunt of your derision like he was the brunt of their derision.. Sorry if that is too complicated. I tried..

[George Hester]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

"Daniel R. Tobias" <dan@tobias.nam e> wrote in message news:aab17256.0 410180610.46d99 079@posting.goo gle.com...[color=blue]
> "George Hester" <hesterloli@hot mail.com> wrote in message news:<QQwcd.840 1$JS4.5748@twis ter.nyroc.rr.co m>...[color=green]
> > Whining is what you hear. I hear disagreement with this convention.
> > It's as simple as that. I only do it to keep those that demand it from
> > going balistic. If there is some benefit to it your attempt to explain
> > it was admirable. Trouble is we have moved into the Modern World. We
> > are in the 21st Century you know. And what was beneficial in ancient
> > times may no longer be. But of course that's whining so I'll bow out. [/color]
>
> I've got some discussion of the quoting issue in my site, where I try
> to be reasonably balanced despite my dislike of top-posters:
>
> http://mailformat.dan.info/quoting/
>
> --
> Dan[/color]

Your Analog magazine section almost had me there. But here is the difference. The magazine HAD to include what was written they were responding to because they could not count on the letter being previously read even if they had published it without a response. They had no choice in the matter. And in that regard it looks better. I agree bottom-posting is better there.

But we here DO have what was written before. If someone writes a response to a post we need only look at it if we haven't read it already. Now I understand that on the Web these newsgroup postings can be difficuilt to follow and yes interleaved quoting does help. Replying in the Top would really achieve the same thing. Replying at Bottom makes me wonder when the poster's stuff is going to appear. Posting at Top it's obvious when it appears and I can tell when he\she ends and ipsofacto what follows is what is being responded to. That is not so clear in Bottom posting. At least not to me.

Yes the ads stuff is an issue. Bottom posting would make that more bearable. I have to grant you that one. It's a tie now.

So yes we each have pros and cons. I really don't care about it all that much. If someone bottom posts or top posts I adjust. It's just that it takes ALOT of work for me to adhust to bottom posting advocates. I mean alot. Sure I could change my client but why? I bought this machine for myself not to make others happy. Except those that come to my website but that's a different issue altogether.

Anyway Daniel thank you for a sober analysis of this issue.

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George Hester
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[Sam Hughes]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

"George Hester" <hesterloli@hot mail.com> wrote in
news:a6%cd.1720 1$l07.16974@twi ster.nyroc.rr.c om:
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>
> Your Analog magazine section almost had me there. But here is the
>
> But we here DO have what was written before. If someone writes a
>
> Yes the ads stuff is an issue. Bottom posting would make that more
>
> So yes we each have pros and cons. I really don't care about it all
>
> Anyway Daniel thank you for a sober analysis of this issue.[/color]

Please fix your newsreader, so that it hard-wraps long lines of text.

[Mark Parnell]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:37:58 GMT, George Hester <hesterloli@hot mail.com>
declared in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html:
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> It's just that it takes ALOT of work for me to adhust to bottom posting
> advocates.[/color]

http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

--
Mark Parnell

http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

[George Hester]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

"Mark Parnell" <webmaster@clar kecomputers.com .au> wrote in message news:1npsrswafs 62z$.4eq5zg14fm 5x.dlg@40tude.n et...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:37:58 GMT, George Hester <hesterloli@hot mail.com>
> declared in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html:
> [color=green]
> > It's just that it takes ALOT of work for me to adhust to bottom posting
> > advocates.[/color]
>
> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>
> --
> Mark Parnell
> http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au[/color]

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/oe/ doesn't have this problem.

See what I mean ALOT of work. Sorry.

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George Hester
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[Neal]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 04:48:15 GMT, George Hester <hesterloli@hot mail.com>
wrote:[color=blue]
> "Mark Parnell" wrote:[color=green]
>> George Hester wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > It's just that it takes ALOT of work for me to adhust to bottom[/color]
>> posting[color=darkred]
>> > advocates.[/color]
>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/[/color]
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/oe/ doesn't have this problem.
> See what I mean ALOT of work. Sorry.[/color]

I give up. Ypou sound more like George Bush. "It's HARD WORK being able to
post the way everyone else seems to have no trouble with."

Fuck him, and plonk you.

[Mark Parnell]

Re: cannot type greek fonts to IE

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 04:48:15 GMT, George Hester <hesterloli@hot mail.com>
declared in comp.infosystem s.www.authoring.html:
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> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/oe/ doesn't have this problem.[/color]

What problem? Top posting by default? Yes it does. The program I posted
the link to _fixes_ OE's broken quoting.

And yes, even Microsoft know that it is broken:

"When including text from a previous message in the thread, trim it
down to include only text pertinent to your response. Your response
should appear below the quoted information.
In follow-ups, whether News or Mail, CUT headers & signatures, PRUNE
quotations, and preserve order. That is to say, quote above each
part of your reply as much of the earlier stuff as is needed to put
the new material in context, but no more; most readers will be able
to refer to the earlier article itself, if need be. Never write on
the same line as a quotation, except in lists and notes; generally
leave a wholly blank line between. Do not quote the header or the
signature, unless it is relevant to do so."

http://web.archive.org/web/20021213215529/http://www.jsiinc.com/newsgroup_document.htm

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> See what I mean ALOT of work.[/color]

What, download and install a program that does it for you (and even
allows you to keep using OE)? Hardly.

--
Mark Parnell

http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au