Dev-C++ compiling problem

**Richard Heathfield** · Oct 26 '07, 12:25 PM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

Philip Potter said:

<snip>

Richard, your argument is let down by your tacet assumptions. I don't go
through /every/ red light, and indeed if there is traffic driving across
my lane I won't cross.

Erm, in my original draft, I did have something like "...althoug h
presumably you take care to avoid this..." - but your reply prompted me to
re-read my article, and indeed that phrase appears to have hit the
cutting-room floor. In fact, my whole reply reads far more severely than I
intended, and I apologise to you for that.

<snip>

So there we have it. Cycling as a means of transport is dead. The roads
are too dangerous, the pavements are too illegal, and the cycle paths
are too daft.

Yes - at least until the oil runs out, anyway. It's still just about
possible for some children to cycle to school safely, but even that is
becoming too risky in places.

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**Joachim Schmitz** · Oct 26 '07, 07:25 PM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

"Kenny McCormack" <gazelle@xmissi on.xmission.com schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:ffs324$s92 $1@news.xmissio n.com...

In article <LFpUCbEM7TIHFw 2A@tqvideo.co.u k>,
Tony Quinn <tony@tqvideo.c o.ukwrote:
...

>>>But I have to ask, what's this about cycling on pavement being a bad
>>>thing? I'm assuming that by "pavement", we don't mean anything more
>>>complicate d than "road". In any case, we cycle on the road all the time
>>>over here in the US (where else would you cycle?[*]) Is it really
>>>different in the UK?
>>>
>>>[*] If you actually want to get somewhere, as opposed to just spinning
>>>your wheels.

>>
>>What we call the pavement, you call the sidewalk

>
I see. Still, I'm a little surprised. While I personally don't think
riding on the sidewalk is a good idea, I would say that it is believed
by many that it is safer (particularly for children and other infirmed
types) and it is generally not discouraged.

here in Germany children up to a certain age (which escapes me right now)
are required to use their bikes on the pavement/sildwalk (i.e not allowed on
the street), up to a certain (higher) age they are still allowed to do this
and as of that age it's strictly forbidden, except if stated otherwise by
some traffic sign.
You'd get a ticket for riding a bike in a pedestrian area (if the police
get's you ;-))

Bye, Jojo

**Keith Thompson** · Oct 26 '07, 08:15 PM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

Richard Heathfield <rjh@see.sig.in validwrites:
[...]

In Usenet terms, you can:
>
(1) complain to your ISP;
(2) use a different ISP;
(3) stop using Usenet;
(4) ignore the problem.
>
(1) is a reasonable course. So is (2). Nobody is suggesting (3). (4) is
what you are doing at the moment. This, too, is a not unreasonable course,
but it does mean that every single article you post breaches netiquette
conventions. Whilst this is perfectly understandable in your situation, it
significantly weakens your justification for criticising other people's
netiquette breaches.

Richard, are you sure he hasn't complained to his Usenet provider?
(It's not really an ISP, since it presumably doesn't provide his
Internet access.)

Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please do
so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for others, not
just for you, and is likely to discourage others from using their
services. They can put all the advertisements they like in the header
lines.

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**Richard Heathfield** · Oct 26 '07, 08:35 PM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

Keith Thompson said:

<snip>

Richard, are you sure [Chuck] hasn't complained to his Usenet provider?

Nope. But I hope he has done so or will do so.

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**CBFalconer** · Oct 26 '07, 09:15 PM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

Keith Thompson wrote:

>

.... snip ...

>
Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please
do so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for
others, not just for you, and is likely to discourage others from
using their services. They can put all the advertisements they
like in the header lines.

Frankly I consider all this fuss ridiculous. A one line added sig
by the news-server is not causing serious problems for anyone.

--
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<http://cbfalconer.home .att.net>

--
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**Ian Collins** · Oct 26 '07, 11:45 PM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

CBFalconer wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote:
.... snip ...

>Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please
>do so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for
>others, not just for you, and is likely to discourage others from
>using their services. They can put all the advertisements they
>like in the header lines.

>
Frankly I consider all this fuss ridiculous.

True.

A one line added sig
by the news-server is not causing serious problems for anyone.
>

Only them, I don't sae others flocking to use their service...

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**Keith Thompson** · Oct 26 '07, 11:45 PM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

CBFalconer <cbfalconer@yah oo.comwrites:

Keith Thompson wrote:

>>

... snip ...

>>
>Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please
>do so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for
>others, not just for you, and is likely to discourage others from
>using their services. They can put all the advertisements they
>like in the header lines.

>
Frankly I consider all this fuss ridiculous. A one line added sig
by the news-server is not causing serious problems for anyone.
>
--
Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home .att.net>
>
>
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

It's adding *six* lines. After your own signature, there are three
blank lines, the "-- " delimiter, the "Posted via ..." message, and
another blank line.

I'm assuming the three blank lines aren't part of your own signature.
If they are, I suggest you remove them. Removing the trailing
new-line at the end of the last line of your own signature (if you can
do so) might also help. (If you could fool teranews into putting the
"-- " on the end of the last line of your own signature, that would
probably silence most objections.)

If the teranews folks insist in adding an advertisement to each posted
article, I suppose that's not entirely unreasonable in exchange for a
(nearly) free account. But they *should* append no more than a line
or two, and they *shouldn't* append a "--" delimiter if the article
already has one. For example, if each of your articles ended with:

| --
| Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
| Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
| <http://cbfalconer.home .att.net>
| Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

that would be just fine.

I'd complain to teranews myself (and I still might), but I think a
complaint from one of their users would have more impact -- and, oddly
enough, I think you're the only teranews free account user I've seen.

So far, I've been mostly sympathetic to you on this issue. It will be
easier for me to continue being sympathetic if you're willing to take
the time to talk to teranews.

--
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San Diego Supercomputer Center <* <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
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-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

**CBFalconer** · Oct 27 '07, 01:55 AM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

Keith Thompson wrote:

>

.... snip ...

>
If the teranews folks insist in adding an advertisement to each posted
article, I suppose that's not entirely unreasonable in exchange for a
(nearly) free account. But they *should* append no more than a line
or two, and they *shouldn't* append a "--" delimiter if the article
already has one. For example, if each of your articles ended with:
>
>| --
>| Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
>| Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
>| <http://cbfalconer.home .att.net>
>| Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
that would be just fine.
>
I'd complain to teranews myself (and I still might), but I think a
complaint from one of their users would have more impact -- and, oddly
enough, I think you're the only teranews free account user I've seen.
>
So far, I've been mostly sympathetic to you on this issue. It will be
easier for me to continue being sympathetic if you're willing to take
the time to talk to teranews.

Actually I have ISP problems with email, which I can only conquer
by sending email from yet another URL based system (and including
instructions about replies). I have emailed Teranews several
times, and never received an answer. One of these days I shall try
changing to Thunderbird, but so far I haven't found out how to make
it operate off-line and synchronize. I wouldn't even be using
teranews if my own ISPs linkage still worked. It used to, and then
they diddled something, which brought on all my troubles and work
arounds. Complaints to them don't work either, and I am reluctant
to change ISPs because the email address will foul up. It has
something to do with security. Also bear in mind that I connect
via the dial-up system, and want to keep the phone line free.

At any rate the history has made me extremely reluctant to change
anything.

(And yes - my sigs have no excess trailing blank lines.) Note that
a blank line adds only two bytes to the transmission, and to any
possible storage file. Trivial.

--
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Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home .att.net>

--
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**Dann Corbit** · Oct 27 '07, 03:45 AM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

"CBFalconer " <cbfalconer@yah oo.comwrote in message
news:47229043.7 605F2D4@yahoo.c om...
[snip]

At any rate the history has made me extremely reluctant to change
anything.
>
(And yes - my sigs have no excess trailing blank lines.) Note that
a blank line adds only two bytes to the transmission, and to any
possible storage file. Trivial.
>
--
Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home .att.net>
>
>
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

I wonder if my teranews account will do the same goofy thing.
We'll know in a minute.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

**Ian Collins** · Oct 27 '07, 03:45 AM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

Dann Corbit wrote:

>
I wonder if my teranews account will do the same goofy thing.
We'll know in a minute.
>

It did. Time to pay news.individual .net a visit...

--
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**Richard Heathfield** · Oct 27 '07, 07:45 AM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

CBFalconer said:

Keith Thompson wrote:

>>

... snip ...

>>
>Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please
>do so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for
>others, not just for you, and is likely to discourage others from
>using their services. They can put all the advertisements they
>like in the header lines.

>
Frankly I consider all this fuss ridiculous. A one line added sig
by the news-server is not causing serious problems for anyone.

Failure to snip sigs in a quote doesn't cause *serious* problems for anyone
either. And your point?

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**CBFalconer** · Oct 27 '07, 09:15 AM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

Richard Heathfield wrote:

CBFalconer said:

>Keith Thompson wrote:

>>>

>... snip ...

>>>
>>Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please
>>do so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for
>>others, not just for you, and is likely to discourage others from
>>using their services. They can put all the advertisements they
>>like in the header lines.

>>
>Frankly I consider all this fuss ridiculous. A one line added sig
>by the news-server is not causing serious problems for anyone.

>
Failure to snip sigs in a quote doesn't cause *serious* problems
for anyone either. And your point?

Ah, but that piles up and interferes with further correspondence.
The extra lines simply require a slightly longer snip, or a
complaint to the newsreader programmer that they do not delete
complete sigs in a reply, or an actual snip by the poor overworked
replier.

Unless they are involved in the discussion, I don't think you will
ever find unsnipped sigs in my replies, and very rarely (usually to
make a point) overlong lines. This doesn't occupy reams of time,
and is fully within the capabilities of the poorest typist.

--
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Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home .att.net>

--
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**Chris Hills** · Oct 27 '07, 10:05 AM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

In article <471E6DC4.D4ED3 4AB@yahoo.com>, CBFalconer
<cbfalconer@yah oo.comwrites

>Richard Heathfield wrote:

>CBFalconer said:

>>Richard Heathfield wrote:

>>
><snip>
>>

>>>Whilst this is
>>>perfectly understandable in your situation, it significantly
>>>weakens your justification for criticising other people's
>>>netiquette breaches.
>>>
>>I'll go along with 'weakens slightly'. The slightly is because
>>the so-called 4 line maximum is only a recommendation, not a
>>requirement .

>>
>So are the behaviours about which you often complain, such as the
>failure to snip signatures.

>
>And you may have noticed I don't make demands. I advise and
>request. The typical message is of the form "Please do (or don't)
><whatever>".
>
>--
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Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home .att.net>

I notice that in this way OT thread it is mainly the people who used to
shout OT the most :-)))))

However as far as I am concerned a little OT social interaction by the
regulars doesn't hurt. Most groups are better for it. It seems to
happen in many groups on a Friday Afternoon...

The good news is that as we don't have an OT argument ensuing the thread
is some 250 posts shorter than it might have been :-)

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**Richard Heathfield** · Oct 27 '07, 10:45 AM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

CBFalconer said:

Richard Heathfield wrote:

>CBFalconer said:

>>Keith Thompson wrote:
>>>>
>>... snip ...
>>>>
>>>Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please
>>>do so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for
>>>others, not just for you, and is likely to discourage others from
>>>using their services. They can put all the advertisements they
>>>like in the header lines.
>>>
>>Frankly I consider all this fuss ridiculous. A one line added sig
>>by the news-server is not causing serious problems for anyone.

>>
>Failure to snip sigs in a quote doesn't cause *serious* problems
>for anyone either. And your point?

>
Ah, but that piles up and interferes with further correspondence.
>
The extra lines simply require a slightly longer snip,

Chuck, it's special pleading.You're saying "it's okay for me to breach
netiquette because I don't see it as being any kind of big deal in my
case", but precisely the same argument can be made by anyone on any
breach, with just as much validity (or invalidity, rather).

It is evident, however, that you are not amenable to persuasion on this
matter, and I'm simply not interested enough to flog this dead horse any
further. But until you either fix your sig or stop complaining about other
people's netiquette breaches, your hypocrisy remains.

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**Richard** · Oct 27 '07, 01:15 PM

Re: Dev-C++ compiling problem

CBFalconer <cbfalconer@yah oo.comwrites:

Keith Thompson wrote:

>>

... snip ...

>>
>Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please
>do so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for
>others, not just for you, and is likely to discourage others from
>using their services. They can put all the advertisements they
>like in the header lines.

>
Frankly I consider all this fuss ridiculous. A one line added sig
by the news-server is not causing serious problems for anyone.

Wrong. As has been explained many, many times. And considering you are
the one constantly whining about people breaking conventions by using
words like "prog" then it becomes even more obvious that you are
somewhat selfish and self absorbed.

>
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The solution is simple : sign up for another free news server.

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