How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

pamelafluente@l ibero.it wrote:
Then you've go problems - unless you know the height of the column (and can
absolutely position the other content), then you've no way of knowing
where "after" is.
On the subject of which - how do you know where "after" is for the second of
those divs? (Hint: The user might change their font size).

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Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

Hi David,

As to fonts, No the user cannot change sizes. Everything is done
absolutely with pixel precision. Fonts are fixed defined in pixels.
This is a very precise layout (enterprise report). User cannot change
it. User can only interact with it with some onclick onmousedown
events.

I thought that with a mix of Javascript (to retrieve the end of the
document)
and CSS this could be done.

(I could keep track of the last pixel written programmaticall y, but, if
possible, I would like to avoid that complication.)

I would prefere something self contained based on CSS (and possibly
javascript, if necessary)

-Pam


David Dorward ha scritto:

Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

On 2006-08-20, pamelafluente@l ibero.it wrote:That is almost always a mistake.
The user can always change it, unless you have some way of
absolutely controlling the users' browser and environment.

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Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

On 20 Aug 2006 03:17:54 -0700, pamelafluente@l ibero.it wrote:
You'd be suprised!

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Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

As to fonts, No the user cannot change sizes. Everything is doneAgree with that from the perspective of a web artist. My perspective is
that
of a document prepared in a page setter (like quark Xpress) and
outputted to web.
There are many other things (pictures, label, text) to match: so
precision is a feature.
That I have just tried. Changing the font size from the menu has no
effects (tried with IE).

Thanks for the advice. If all of you experts think there is no clean
solution in js/css, I will resort
to compute the last div position programmaticall y. Let me know...

-Pam

Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???


Nije Nego ha scritto:
eh? I do not want surprises. Tell me if there is anything I should take
care of :)

-Pam

Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

pamelafluente@l ibero.it wrote:

Don't top post.
Wrong. The user can always change the font sizes.
Almost always a mistake on the WWW.
Which will stop the user from resizing the text ... if (and only if) they
use Internet Explorer ... and if (and only if) they don't use a custom
style sheet ... and if (and only if) they don't tell their browser to
ignore font size information from websites ... and if (and only if) they
don't have a bookmarklet to zap font size information ... and ... and ...
and.


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Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

David Dorward ha scritto:
Do not understand the meaning of "top post". What does that mean?
Sorry if I have done something wrong (I use Google to post).
Answered above.
Good to know that. The pages are web rendering that try to clone
pages made with a page setter. The user should not have interest to
spoil
his layout work, done on the page setter.

By the way is there some tag I can insert to avoid some of these
problems?
-Pam

Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

pamelafluente@l ibero.it wrote:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22top%20post%22 - first hit
But they might have interest in having the text large enough to read. Or
they might have a minimum font size set.
No.


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Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

Do not understand the meaning of "top post". What does that mean?Ah I see. That stuff "David Dorward ha scritto:" is inserted
automatically by Google. Perhaps they want all posters to look "idiot".


As to the definition:
"This term is generally used pejoratively with the implication that the
offending person is a newbie, a Microsoft addict (Microsoft mail tools
produce a similar format by default), or simply a
common-and-garden-variety idiot.",

I would be curious to know in which category I could fall according to
your opinion :)
They can be set it in the Designer. There are many elements whose
position cannot
be jeopardized (like a magazine page) otherwiae the report become a
mess. It's not an artistic web page, it's a precisely designed
enterprise report.
:(

By the way, nice blog. I feel honored to be helped by someone
contributing to the css3 spec.

Ciao,

-Pam

Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

On 20 Aug 2006 04:22:16 -0700, pamelafluente@l ibero.it wrote:
When it comes to www - the only way to protect your design (in graphic
point of view), is to upload it as graphic file.

This goes for font sizes as well.

And, even so, user has the last word, he can choose not to view images.

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Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

On 20 Aug 2006 04:37:02 -0700, pamelafluente@l ibero.it wrote:
If you have a genuinely good reason for maintaining a completely fixed
layout (it does happen occasionally - I can't judge from your post
whether this is the case here) then the best approach is probably to
provide a PDF document to the reader.

Or you might provide two versions: a flexible HTML layout for easy
on-screen reading and a PDF for producing nice printed copies.

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Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

If you have a genuinely good reason for maintaining a completely fixedWe already do. But enterprises want web pages mostly.
The relative positioning is not possible in my specific context, where
the precise relative position of several items of different nature is
crucial.

I know that if you could see all the code generated you would have some
tons of criticism, but I have to balance a lot of other things and
considerations. This is not a page manually created, but an attempt to
render as close as possible a design made in a composer.

There are also interactivity problem as I have to handle the click on
each cell. and there could be thousands of cell arranged in any
possible layout, not necessarily "tables".

Cells can have pictures and alarms inside. There can be label
superposed precisely on charts,... So a mess.

I am always trying to do the best compromise between many factors.

You are like artists. It's more less like telling Michelangelo to go
buy a paint at a shop. But most people are not Michelangelo, ... and
they do have to go buy it to the shop...

I bet 95% of you (in this group) would throw Front Page directly in the
dubstin, but nevertheless it's an indispensable tool to million of
persons who focus their life on other things (like money for instance).

I understand all the instances of you artists, and I try to get as
close as possible, because I admire you, but on the other hand must do
fight with a lot of other factors...

-Pam

Re: How do I place a footer after many absolute DIVs ???

pamelafluente@l ibero.it wrote:
Yes, but there isn't any need to put the entire response above it.
Newbie (to Usenet), in a non-pejorative fashion.
I mean set in their browser (and it would apply to all websites).
Perhaps, but HTML/CSS isn't a very good tool for achieving that type of
result.

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