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  • Killer42
    Recognized Expert Expert
    • Oct 2006
    • 8429

    #16
    Originally posted by willakawill
    I want to know why. Why do I want to adjust it depending on screen resolution?
    Well I'm no expert on user interfaces (actually I suck) but I do know that some forms just don't look any good when crammed into a smaller resolution screen, or stretched out on a larger one.

    Of course, a lot of that goes back to when 14" monitors were for extreme power users, and a lot of stuff just wouldn't fit onto the screen to start with. Under those circumstances, a good professional-looking interface needs to adjust and fit more controls onto the form when the space is available. I'm sure there must still be other situations where people want to adjust things depending on screen size. For example, if you have a bunch of controls around the screen and the resolution increases, you might want them to stay the same apparent size, and just move further apart. Or add in further controls, like the toolbars in Office that squash items out to a pull-down menu when they won't fit on-screen.

    (That reminds me - is there any way to tell the actual size of the monitor, rather than just the resolution?).

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    • softwaregeek
      New Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 27

      #17
      Originally posted by Killer42
      Well I'm no expert on user interfaces (actually I suck) but I do know that some forms just don't look any good when crammed into a smaller resolution screen, or stretched out on a larger one.

      Of course, a lot of that goes back to when 14" monitors were for extreme power users, and a lot of stuff just wouldn't fit onto the screen to start with. Under those circumstances, a good professional-looking interface needs to adjust and fit more controls onto the form when the space is available. I'm sure there must still be other situations where people want to adjust things depending on screen size. For example, if you have a bunch of controls around the screen and the resolution increases, you might want them to stay the same apparent size, and just move further apart. Or add in further controls, like the toolbars in Office that squash items out to a pull-down menu when they won't fit on-screen.

      (That reminds me - is there any way to tell the actual size of the monitor, rather than just the resolution?).
      yaKiller you caught the right nerve immediatly
      and thanx for the solution and will thanx for your try also

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      • Killer42
        Recognized Expert Expert
        • Oct 2006
        • 8429

        #18
        Originally posted by softwaregeek
        yaKiller you caught the right nerve immediatly
        and thanx for the solution and will thanx for your try also
        Yay, I win!! :D

        Um... which particular solution?

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        • willakawill
          Top Contributor
          • Oct 2006
          • 1646

          #19
          Originally posted by Killer42
          Yay, I win!! ;D

          Um... which particular solution?
          Dammit. You beat me again. I'll have to stop posting solutions. It's ruining my street cred.

          And I have no idea what I would be resizing my form for. Either I designed it correctly or I didn't. I have never seen a form in any app, microsoft or otherwise, that resized the controls on a form. I have seen resizeable forms and they come from crappy software writers. Shifting controls because there is no room is not the same as resizing them. Can you name a successful commercial piece of software that resizes controls?

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          • softwaregeek
            New Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 27

            #20
            Originally posted by willakawill
            Dammit. You beat me again. I'll have to stop posting solutions. It's ruining my street cred.

            And I have no idea what I would be resizing my form for. Either I designed it correctly or I didn't. I have never seen a form in any app, microsoft or otherwise, that resized the controls on a form. I have seen resizeable forms and they come from crappy software writers. Shifting controls because there is no room is not the same as resizing them. Can you name a successful commercial piece of software that resizes controls?

            to will ,
            its really poor yet you are wandering for the problem

            and what do u mean by crapy s/w writers?Where do u want to point ?

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            • willakawill
              Top Contributor
              • Oct 2006
              • 1646

              #21
              Originally posted by softwaregeek
              to will ,
              its really poor yet you are wandering for the problem

              and what do u mean by crapy s/w writers?Where do u want to point ?
              I have not seen your forms so I cannot be referring to your software. I have seen forms from other 'professionals' that are resizeable and look terrible. I have never seen a commercial app with resizeable controls. I am trying my best to steer you away from wasting your time. I have been doing this from the beginning. I kept asking 'why'. It makes no sense to me. I ask you just one more time. Please show me a piece of commercial software with resizeable controls.

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              • Killer42
                Recognized Expert Expert
                • Oct 2006
                • 8429

                #22
                Originally posted by willakawill
                ...Can you name a successful commercial piece of software that resizes controls?
                Nope. :(

                But I have had plenty of cases over the years where I wanted an answer to a specific question and all I could get was "why do you want to do that" or "you should do it a different way". I figure if the OP wanted advice on designing their user interface, they'd ask for it.

                I'm not saying you shouldn't help in the way you see fit - it's just not my way. (At least today - tomorrow, who knows...)

                As I said, this particular technique (elastic) probably went out of fashion as screens became large enough to fit things on. We used to have to squash things down as small as possible due to really horrible resolution. Then if you had room, you'd enlarge things or spread them apart to make them look better.

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                • willakawill
                  Top Contributor
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1646

                  #23
                  Every week I have photography students asking for my 'advice' on some matter or other. What they really want is for me to agree with their point of view, to congratulate them on their planned purchase or whatever. They are, of course, asking the wrong person. I won't cheat someone just because they want me to. They can carry on cheating themselves as they always do and that is not my business.

                  If I think it is a stupid idea to spend time creating resizeable controls you can rest assured that I will make the point. I don't really care if the OP 'likes' the information or chokes on it. In the end I have to look in the mirror and decide what I want to risk today. You can be certain it will not be my integrity.

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                  • Killer42
                    Recognized Expert Expert
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 8429

                    #24
                    Fair enough.

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                    • softwaregeek
                      New Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 27

                      #25
                      Originally posted by willakawill
                      Every week I have photography students asking for my 'advice' on some matter or other. What they really want is for me to agree with their point of view, to congratulate them on their planned purchase or whatever. They are, of course, asking the wrong person. I won't cheat someone just because they want me to. They can carry on cheating themselves as they always do and that is not my business.

                      If I think it is a stupid idea to spend time creating resizeable controls you can rest assured that I will make the point. I don't really care if the OP 'likes' the information or chokes on it. In the end I have to look in the mirror and decide what I want to risk today. You can be certain it will not be my integrity.

                      hey will ,
                      i didnt want to hurt you.sorry bro.but bYet no body got the problem. should i explaine it again with snap of a form??? and yes whats this 'OP'??

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                      • willakawill
                        Top Contributor
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 1646

                        #26
                        You are the OP. (original poster)
                        Don't worry about me. I am not hurt or upset in the slightest. I just don't hold back when I make my point.

                        I want you to answer these 2 questions and only these 2 questions.
                        Tell me one piece of commercial software that has resizeable controls
                        Why should your app be different

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