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  • Miro

    .Net vs VB6 on autorun.inf

    Wondering if anyone here has come up with a different solution than I keep
    coming back to:


    Here is a thought and I just can't seem to come up with another solution
    other than to install my old VB6 cds'.

    I want to create a nice splashy screen that will run from ( Autorun.inf ) on
    a CD when a cd is installed.

    Creating the splash screen in vb6 - is no problems.

    Creating it in .net 2008 causes me headaches as to why would someone want to
    install the .net framework to see a nice application main screen running.
    ( If they don't have it installed ).

    It takes away a bit from the easy portability ( at this time ) while there
    could be / and are some computers out there without the framework installed.

    Thanks,

    Miro

  • kimiraikkonen

    #2
    Re: .Net vs VB6 on autorun.inf

    On Jul 28, 10:45 pm, "Miro" <m...@beero.com wrote:
    Wondering if anyone here has come up with a different solution than I keep
    coming back to:
    >
    Here is a thought and I just can't seem to come up with another solution
    other than to install my old VB6 cds'.
    >
    I want to create a nice splashy screen that will run from ( Autorun.inf )on
    a CD when a cd is installed.
    >
    Creating the splash screen in vb6 - is no problems.
    >
    Creating it in .net 2008 causes me headaches as to why would someone wantto
    install the .net framework to see a nice application main screen running.
    ( If they don't have it installed ).
    >
    It takes away a bit from the easy portability ( at this time ) while there
    could be / and are some computers out there without the framework installed.
    >
    Thanks,
    >
    Miro
    Hi,
    Yes, If you don't want to force your application's users to
    install .NET framework just to see a autorun screen (.exe file), you
    can use a flash projector file (.exe) interface using fscommand
    (inside flash), or program it using VB6 or use a third party autorun
    creator software which allows you to custumize your autorun interface.
    Unfortunately, you need to install .NET framework even just if you
    compile an fully empty form as far as i know.

    Thanks,

    Onur Güzel

    Comment

    • Miro

      #3
      Re: .Net vs VB6 on autorun.inf

      Yes,

      My current requirement for one of my customers is a quick splash screen.

      They do not use .net at all,
      and the 'vb6' way of running ( simple exe ) would be sufficient and splashy
      enough.

      Thanks,

      Miro

      "kimiraikko nen" <kimiraikkonen8 5@gmail.comwrot e in message
      news:04f0d8f4-397c-4e5e-929a-91a5cafb98a9@w7 g2000hsa.google groups.com...
      On Jul 28, 10:45 pm, "Miro" <m...@beero.com wrote:
      Wondering if anyone here has come up with a different solution than I keep
      coming back to:
      >
      Here is a thought and I just can't seem to come up with another solution
      other than to install my old VB6 cds'.
      >
      I want to create a nice splashy screen that will run from ( Autorun.inf )
      on
      a CD when a cd is installed.
      >
      Creating the splash screen in vb6 - is no problems.
      >
      Creating it in .net 2008 causes me headaches as to why would someone want
      to
      install the .net framework to see a nice application main screen running.
      ( If they don't have it installed ).
      >
      It takes away a bit from the easy portability ( at this time ) while there
      could be / and are some computers out there without the framework
      installed.
      >
      Thanks,
      >
      Miro
      Hi,
      Yes, If you don't want to force your application's users to
      install .NET framework just to see a autorun screen (.exe file), you
      can use a flash projector file (.exe) interface using fscommand
      (inside flash), or program it using VB6 or use a third party autorun
      creator software which allows you to custumize your autorun interface.
      Unfortunately, you need to install .NET framework even just if you
      compile an fully empty form as far as i know.

      Thanks,

      Onur Güzel

      Comment

      • JDS

        #4
        Re: .Net vs VB6 on autorun.inf

        On Jul 28, 8:45 pm, "Miro" <m...@beero.com wrote:
        Wondering if anyone here has come up with a different solution than I keep
        coming back to:
        >
        Here is a thought and I just can't seem to come up with another solution
        other than to install my old VB6 cds'.
        >
        I want to create a nice splashy screen that will run from ( Autorun.inf )on
        a CD when a cd is installed.
        >
        Creating the splash screen in vb6 - is no problems.
        >
        Creating it in .net 2008 causes me headaches as to why would someone wantto
        install the .net framework to see a nice application main screen running.
        ( If they don't have it installed ).
        >
        It takes away a bit from the easy portability ( at this time ) while there
        could be / and are some computers out there without the framework installed.
        >
        Thanks,
        >
        Miro
        If you are happy to do a splash screen in html then this piece of
        freeware may do the job for you. Very easy to use.

        Thousands of shareware programs exist for autoplaying an HTML when a CD is entered. This Tech Recipes tutorial highlights the freeware that does the same. Having your CD autorun is simple. Just create a file called autorun.inf and place it on your CD. Using Notepad, you can create this file containing the following information: [autorun] […]


        HTH
        Jeremy

        Comment

        • Cor Ligthert[MVP]

          #5
          Re: .Net vs VB6 on autorun.inf

          Miro,

          For what you want to create a splash screen (introduction scren) with
          DotNetg as it is not for a .Net application.
          I do not know how simple it is in VB6 to create a splash screen, but much
          simpler then in .Net it can not be. While it can be done in .Net as well in
          a background thread.

          Cor

          "Miro" <miro@beero.com schreef in bericht
          news:uMqhCHP8IH A.3260@TK2MSFTN GP03.phx.gbl...
          Yes,
          >
          My current requirement for one of my customers is a quick splash screen.
          >
          They do not use .net at all,
          and the 'vb6' way of running ( simple exe ) would be sufficient and
          splashy enough.
          >
          Thanks,
          >
          Miro
          >
          "kimiraikko nen" <kimiraikkonen8 5@gmail.comwrot e in message
          news:04f0d8f4-397c-4e5e-929a-91a5cafb98a9@w7 g2000hsa.google groups.com...
          On Jul 28, 10:45 pm, "Miro" <m...@beero.com wrote:
          >Wondering if anyone here has come up with a different solution than I
          >keep
          >coming back to:
          >>
          >Here is a thought and I just can't seem to come up with another solution
          >other than to install my old VB6 cds'.
          >>
          >I want to create a nice splashy screen that will run from ( Autorun.inf )
          >on
          >a CD when a cd is installed.
          >>
          >Creating the splash screen in vb6 - is no problems.
          >>
          >Creating it in .net 2008 causes me headaches as to why would someone want
          >to
          >install the .net framework to see a nice application main screen running.
          >( If they don't have it installed ).
          >>
          >It takes away a bit from the easy portability ( at this time ) while
          >there
          >could be / and are some computers out there without the framework
          >installed.
          >>
          >Thanks,
          >>
          >Miro
          >
          Hi,
          Yes, If you don't want to force your application's users to
          install .NET framework just to see a autorun screen (.exe file), you
          can use a flash projector file (.exe) interface using fscommand
          (inside flash), or program it using VB6 or use a third party autorun
          creator software which allows you to custumize your autorun interface.
          Unfortunately, you need to install .NET framework even just if you
          compile an fully empty form as far as i know.
          >
          Thanks,
          >
          Onur Güzel

          Comment

          • Ken Halter

            #6
            Re: .Net vs VB6 on autorun.inf

            "Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <notmyfirstname @planet.nlwrote in message
            news:6EBEEC51-C26B-4A3B-863A-DB07C4656580@mi crosoft.com...
            Miro,
            >
            For what you want to create a splash screen (introduction scren) with
            DotNetg as it is not for a .Net application.
            I do not know how simple it is in VB6 to create a splash screen, but much
            simpler then in .Net it can not be. While it can be done in .Net as well
            in a background thread.
            >
            Cor
            In VB6,

            frmSplash.Show vbModeless

            That's about as simple as it gets.


            Comment

            • Miro

              #7
              Re: .Net vs VB6 on autorun.inf

              The 'Splash' Screen is just an example,

              but it would have been a simple form with a splash screen, and then a menu
              that actually points to files accross the cd that runs seperate exe files
              they would wish to put on it.

              I have done something like this before - but instead used a straight HTML
              doc to create a dummy menu, but was really hoping to go the "vb.net VS2008"
              method and create a dynamic menu in an exe with lots of pretty buttons and
              links and graphics and such.

              Thanks for the replies, but I beleive I will be using my old machine and
              installing the old VB on that for the dummy app.

              Cor - I wanted to use .net to create the menu as that is the language of
              choice I want to lean towards in the future. I am familiar with VB4 or VB5
              ( cant remember ) from back in the days of going to school.
              The customer has documents such as ( pdfs, .docs, .docx, excel, exe's,
              etc... ) that they wanted in a 'Customer Driven Menu' at the start of the cd
              so the customer can choose what to install, view, or copy off the cd without
              having to browse the cd.
              However adding the .net mix into it, a user who knows nothing about
              computers - would instantly be stuck when asked to install the .net
              framework on the computer.
              I want to keep the autorun.inf "CLEAN" so it runs the form, and tries to
              install nothing new.

              Cheers'

              Miro


              "Ken Halter" <Ken_Halter@Use _Sparingly_Hotm ail.comwrote in message
              news:ukhpgjY8IH A.2060@TK2MSFTN GP02.phx.gbl...
              "Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <notmyfirstname @planet.nlwrote in message
              news:6EBEEC51-C26B-4A3B-863A-DB07C4656580@mi crosoft.com...
              >Miro,
              >>
              >For what you want to create a splash screen (introduction scren) with
              >DotNetg as it is not for a .Net application.
              >I do not know how simple it is in VB6 to create a splash screen, but much
              >simpler then in .Net it can not be. While it can be done in .Net as well
              >in a background thread.
              >>
              >Cor
              >
              In VB6,
              >
              frmSplash.Show vbModeless
              >
              That's about as simple as it gets.
              >

              Comment

              • Cor Ligthert[MVP]

                #8
                Re: .Net vs VB6 on autorun.inf

                Miro,

                It is with .Net the same as wanting to connect a modern keyboard to an old
                computer which has the big type of keyboard connector and only VESA
                addapters, you most probably never will succeed.

                The same is with .Net on a computer with 10Gb disk and 80Mb memory, you
                cannot well run a modern OS so upgrade this to a complete version (which
                means for Microsoft OS's today included .Net installed) gives problems.

                But for your problem VB6 has in a way the same problem. A simple Net program
                as you describe uses very few memory on disk and in memory. Every VB6
                program compared with that will probably be 100 times bigger, while it need
                its VB6 runtime (which is not installed on every computer). The .Net runtime
                and the classes around that are integrated today in the Microsoft OS's.

                As that is not the problem, then I think that creating a simple Menu
                program, that only starts different documents using the "process start",
                could be a fine learning curve to start with. The newest .Net languages and
                therefore as well VB9 have many solutions inside .Net or as classes outside
                Net. By instance MS office programming is full integrated in the Net
                development environment 2008.

                A link to start some processesses.



                So if your client or you uses computers with big keyboard connectors, don't
                try to install .Net on that, there is a chance that you succeed. But I would
                not try it.

                Cor


                "Miro" <miro@beero.com schreef in bericht
                news:%232cBqfb8 IHA.5052@TK2MSF TNGP03.phx.gbl. ..
                The 'Splash' Screen is just an example,
                >
                but it would have been a simple form with a splash screen, and then a menu
                that actually points to files accross the cd that runs seperate exe files
                they would wish to put on it.
                >
                I have done something like this before - but instead used a straight HTML
                doc to create a dummy menu, but was really hoping to go the "vb.net
                VS2008" method and create a dynamic menu in an exe with lots of pretty
                buttons and links and graphics and such.
                >
                Thanks for the replies, but I beleive I will be using my old machine and
                installing the old VB on that for the dummy app.
                >
                Cor - I wanted to use .net to create the menu as that is the language of
                choice I want to lean towards in the future. I am familiar with VB4 or
                VB5 ( cant remember ) from back in the days of going to school.
                The customer has documents such as ( pdfs, .docs, .docx, excel, exe's,
                etc... ) that they wanted in a 'Customer Driven Menu' at the start of the
                cd so the customer can choose what to install, view, or copy off the cd
                without having to browse the cd.
                However adding the .net mix into it, a user who knows nothing about
                computers - would instantly be stuck when asked to install the .net
                framework on the computer.
                I want to keep the autorun.inf "CLEAN" so it runs the form, and tries to
                install nothing new.
                >
                Cheers'
                >
                Miro
                >
                >
                "Ken Halter" <Ken_Halter@Use _Sparingly_Hotm ail.comwrote in message
                news:ukhpgjY8IH A.2060@TK2MSFTN GP02.phx.gbl...
                >"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <notmyfirstname @planet.nlwrote in message
                >news:6EBEEC5 1-C26B-4A3B-863A-DB07C4656580@mi crosoft.com...
                >>Miro,
                >>>
                >>For what you want to create a splash screen (introduction scren) with
                >>DotNetg as it is not for a .Net application.
                >>I do not know how simple it is in VB6 to create a splash screen, but
                >>much simpler then in .Net it can not be. While it can be done in .Net as
                >>well in a background thread.
                >>>
                >>Cor
                >>
                >In VB6,
                >>
                >frmSplash.Sh ow vbModeless
                >>
                >That's about as simple as it gets.
                >>
                >

                Comment

                • Gillard

                  #9
                  Re: .Net vs VB6 on autorun.inf

                  what about a html application (*.hta)

                  it look very nice with a few script


                  "JDS" <admin@jeremysa ge.comwrote in message
                  news:d7fd93fe-97c8-48ae-888a-3ab59cfbc9e2@79 g2000hsk.google groups.com...
                  On Jul 28, 8:45 pm, "Miro" <m...@beero.com wrote:
                  >Wondering if anyone here has come up with a different solution than I
                  >keep
                  >coming back to:
                  >>
                  >Here is a thought and I just can't seem to come up with another solution
                  >other than to install my old VB6 cds'.
                  >>
                  >I want to create a nice splashy screen that will run from ( Autorun.inf )
                  >on
                  >a CD when a cd is installed.
                  >>
                  >Creating the splash screen in vb6 - is no problems.
                  >>
                  >Creating it in .net 2008 causes me headaches as to why would someone want
                  >to
                  >install the .net framework to see a nice application main screen running.
                  >( If they don't have it installed ).
                  >>
                  >It takes away a bit from the easy portability ( at this time ) while
                  >there
                  >could be / and are some computers out there without the framework
                  >installed.
                  >>
                  >Thanks,
                  >>
                  >Miro
                  >
                  If you are happy to do a splash screen in html then this piece of
                  freeware may do the job for you. Very easy to use.
                  >
                  Thousands of shareware programs exist for autoplaying an HTML when a CD is entered. This Tech Recipes tutorial highlights the freeware that does the same. Having your CD autorun is simple. Just create a file called autorun.inf and place it on your CD. Using Notepad, you can create this file containing the following information: [autorun] […]

                  >
                  HTH
                  Jeremy

                  Comment

                  • Joergen Bech

                    #10
                    Re: .Net vs VB6 on autorun.inf


                    Just use one of the several freeware or shareware programs
                    made for just such a task.

                    Google search:


                    No need for VB6 or .Net runtimes to be present. Not even a web
                    browser. If you did decide to go the HTML route, how can you be
                    sure that the user's default browser is going to support your startup
                    screen forever and ever?

                    /Joergen Bech



                    On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:45:29 -0400, "Miro" <miro@beero.com wrote:
                    >Wondering if anyone here has come up with a different solution than I keep
                    >coming back to:
                    >
                    >
                    >Here is a thought and I just can't seem to come up with another solution
                    >other than to install my old VB6 cds'.
                    >
                    >I want to create a nice splashy screen that will run from ( Autorun.inf ) on
                    >a CD when a cd is installed.
                    >
                    >Creating the splash screen in vb6 - is no problems.
                    >
                    >Creating it in .net 2008 causes me headaches as to why would someone want to
                    >install the .net framework to see a nice application main screen running.
                    >( If they don't have it installed ).
                    >
                    >It takes away a bit from the easy portability ( at this time ) while there
                    >could be / and are some computers out there without the framework installed.
                    >
                    >Thanks,
                    >
                    >Miro

                    Comment

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