VB.Net advice needed

[RobinS]

Re: VB.Net advice needed

Thanks for posting that. I was wondering about Orcas, and its
impact on the projects I'm working on.

Robin S.
-----------------------------
"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidwr ote in message
news:e3b469763f 7a8c8f33bbc44fc d4@newsgroups.c omcast.net...

There are no syntax features slated for deprecation in the Orcas
release. There are some language changes planned, but they are all
additions to existing VB2005 syntax. If you choose not to use the new
features, you won't even notice the difference in syntax.
>
-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>

>Yes, thats the replacement for the VB.NET language. Its still going
>to
>be called VB (like last time) but there are major syntax and language
>changes planned..... making the current language obsolete.
>>
>The Grand Master
>>
>Andy.I wrote:
>>

>>If Vb.net is to be discontinued, why is it so information regarding
>>Vb 9 (Orcas) on the VB site at MSDN?
>>>
>>"Master Programmer" <master_program mer@outgun.comw rote in message
>>news:11666905 36.600841.83070 @80g2000cwy.goo glegroups.com.. .
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>>
>>>I would just learn C#. Its pretty common knowledge that VB.NET is
>>>very likely to be discontinued in the next release of Visual Studio
>>>because of the lack of interest in it. I can confirm this as I
>>>have
>>>a friend at Microsoft that mentioned it to me.
>>>>
>>>Good luck with the course.
>>>Steve Ray Irwin
>>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>I've just finished a collegue cource in beginning Vb.net
>>>>programmein g,
>>>>and
>>>>was supposed to take an advanced cource in VB.net next semester
>>>>learning
>>>>more abour object oriented programming. But this cource is
>>>>terminate d.
>>>>By options now is to either take a cource in C# or a cource in
>>>>ASP.Net
>>>>with
>>>>vb.net as language of choice. What would be most benefitial? The
>>>>C#
>>>>is
>>>>targeted on developers with Java/C++ experience, and the ASP.Net
>>>>on
>>>>vb.net
>>>>prorgrammer s.
>>>>Are there any drawbacks with ASP.Net? I realise it is not the same
>>>>as
>>>>Windows development, but I will learn mote VB, and for OOP
>>>>programmi ng I
>>>>have some good learning books.
>>>>Please advice
>>>>/A.
>>>>>

>
>

[Tim Patrick]

Re: VB.Net advice needed

I should qualify what I said a little. There will be no deprecated language
features in VB-Orcas, but there haven't been any deprecated language features
in any of the VB releases since VB.NET 2002 came out. It's a pretty safe
statement to make. Microsoft made their cut of language features when they
jumped to .NET. For instance, they removed GoSub/Return at that time. Microsoft
has no reason to remove language grammar that they worked hard to included
in .NET. (Personally, I would like to see the While/End While statement removed
from the language, since it is fully replaced by Do/Loop.)

However, there may be "breaking changes" in the .NET Framework classes in
the Orcas release timeframe. Microsoft periodically modifies specific class
features from release to release, and some of these changes can impact specific
programs. You can find lists of these changes on the MSDN web site (http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframewo...akingchanges/).
But they have nothing to do with the VB language. These breaking changes
impact both VB and C# equally.

-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005

Thanks for posting that. I was wondering about Orcas, and its impact
on the projects I'm working on.
>
Robin S.
-----------------------------
"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidwr ote in message
news:e3b469763f 7a8c8f33bbc44fc d4@newsgroups.c omcast.net...

>There are no syntax features slated for deprecation in the Orcas
>release. There are some language changes planned, but they are all
>additions to existing VB2005 syntax. If you choose not to use the new
>features, you won't even notice the difference in syntax.
>>
>-----
>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005

>>Yes, thats the replacement for the VB.NET language. Its still going
>>to
>>be called VB (like last time) but there are major syntax and
>>language
>>changes planned..... making the current language obsolete.
>>The Grand Master
>>>
>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>
>>>If Vb.net is to be discontinued, why is it so information regarding
>>>Vb 9 (Orcas) on the VB site at MSDN?
>>>>
>>>"Master Programmer" <master_program mer@outgun.comw rote in message
>>>news:1166690 536.600841.8307 0@80g2000cwy.go oglegroups.com. ..
>>>>
>>>>Andy
>>>>>
>>>>I would just learn C#. Its pretty common knowledge that VB.NET is
>>>>very likely to be discontinued in the next release of Visual
>>>>Studio
>>>>because of the lack of interest in it. I can confirm this as I
>>>>have
>>>>a friend at Microsoft that mentioned it to me.
>>>>Good luck with the course.
>>>>Steve Ray Irwin
>>>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>I've just finished a collegue cource in beginning Vb.net
>>>>>programmei ng,
>>>>>and
>>>>>was supposed to take an advanced cource in VB.net next semester
>>>>>learning
>>>>>more abour object oriented programming. But this cource is
>>>>>terminated .
>>>>>By options now is to either take a cource in C# or a cource in
>>>>>ASP.Net
>>>>>with
>>>>>vb.net as language of choice. What would be most benefitial? The
>>>>>C#
>>>>>is
>>>>>targeted on developers with Java/C++ experience, and the ASP.Net
>>>>>on
>>>>>vb.net
>>>>>prorgramme rs.
>>>>>Are there any drawbacks with ASP.Net? I realise it is not the
>>>>>same
>>>>>as
>>>>>Windows development, but I will learn mote VB, and for OOP
>>>>>programmin g I
>>>>>have some good learning books.
>>>>>Please advice
>>>>>/A.

[RobinS]

Re: VB.Net advice needed

Thanks for the clarification. I'll check out the link.

But they have nothing to do with the VB language. These breaking
changes impact both VB and C# equally.

It's good to see that Microsoft is an Equal-Opportunity Annoyer.

Robin S.
----------------------------------------
"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidwr ote in message
news:e3b4697640 048c8f3be8dcf48 a4@newsgroups.c omcast.net...

>I should qualify what I said a little. There will be no deprecated
>language features in VB-Orcas, but there haven't been any deprecated
>language features in any of the VB releases since VB.NET 2002 came out.
>It's a pretty safe statement to make. Microsoft made their cut of
>language features when they jumped to .NET. For instance, they removed
>GoSub/Return at that time. Microsoft has no reason to remove language
>grammar that they worked hard to included in .NET. (Personally, I would
>like to see the While/End While statement removed from the language,
>since it is fully replaced by Do/Loop.)
>
However, there may be "breaking changes" in the .NET Framework classes
in the Orcas release timeframe. Microsoft periodically modifies
specific class features from release to release, and some of these
changes can impact specific programs. You can find lists of these
changes on the MSDN web site
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframewo...akingchanges/).
But they have nothing to do with the VB language. These breaking
changes impact both VB and C# equally.
>
-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>

>Thanks for posting that. I was wondering about Orcas, and its impact
>on the projects I'm working on.
>>
>Robin S.
>-----------------------------
>"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidwr ote in message
>news:e3b469763 f7a8c8f33bbc44f cd4@newsgroups. comcast.net...

>>There are no syntax features slated for deprecation in the Orcas
>>release. There are some language changes planned, but they are all
>>additions to existing VB2005 syntax. If you choose not to use the
>>new
>>features, you won't even notice the difference in syntax.
>>>
>>-----
>>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>>Yes, thats the replacement for the VB.NET language. Its still going
>>>to
>>>be called VB (like last time) but there are major syntax and
>>>language
>>>changes planned..... making the current language obsolete.
>>>The Grand Master
>>>>
>>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>>
>>>>If Vb.net is to be discontinued, why is it so information
>>>>regarding
>>>>Vb 9 (Orcas) on the VB site at MSDN?
>>>>>
>>>>"Master Programmer" <master_program mer@outgun.comw rote in
>>>>message
>>>>news:116669 0536.600841.830 70@80g2000cwy.g ooglegroups.com ...
>>>>>
>>>>>Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>I would just learn C#. Its pretty common knowledge that VB.NET
>>>>>is
>>>>>very likely to be discontinued in the next release of Visual
>>>>>Studio
>>>>>because of the lack of interest in it. I can confirm this as I
>>>>>have
>>>>>a friend at Microsoft that mentioned it to me.
>>>>>Good luck with the course.
>>>>>Steve Ray Irwin
>>>>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've just finished a collegue cource in beginning Vb.net
>>>>>>programme ing,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>was supposed to take an advanced cource in VB.net next semester
>>>>>>learnin g
>>>>>>more abour object oriented programming. But this cource is
>>>>>>terminate d.
>>>>>>By options now is to either take a cource in C# or a cource in
>>>>>>ASP.Net
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>vb.net as language of choice. What would be most benefitial? The
>>>>>>C#
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>targete d on developers with Java/C++ experience, and the ASP.Net
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>vb.net
>>>>>>prorgramm ers.
>>>>>>Are there any drawbacks with ASP.Net? I realise it is not the
>>>>>>same
>>>>>>as
>>>>>>Windows development, but I will learn mote VB, and for OOP
>>>>>>programmi ng I
>>>>>>have some good learning books.
>>>>>>Please advice
>>>>>>/A.

>
>

[RobinS]

Re: VB.Net advice needed

Interestingly enough, that link came up and said it was no longer
available, and I was being redirected to this one

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/net.../aa570326.aspx

which is "Breaking Changes in .Net Framework 2.0." So it's
actually diffs between 1.0/1.1 and 2.0. Maybe they will update
it when it gets closer to releasing Orcas?

Robin S.
-----------------------------

"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidwr ote in message
news:e3b4697640 048c8f3be8dcf48 a4@newsgroups.c omcast.net...

>I should qualify what I said a little. There will be no deprecated
>language features in VB-Orcas, but there haven't been any deprecated
>language features in any of the VB releases since VB.NET 2002 came out.
>It's a pretty safe statement to make. Microsoft made their cut of
>language features when they jumped to .NET. For instance, they removed
>GoSub/Return at that time. Microsoft has no reason to remove language
>grammar that they worked hard to included in .NET. (Personally, I would
>like to see the While/End While statement removed from the language,
>since it is fully replaced by Do/Loop.)
>
However, there may be "breaking changes" in the .NET Framework classes
in the Orcas release timeframe. Microsoft periodically modifies
specific class features from release to release, and some of these
changes can impact specific programs. You can find lists of these
changes on the MSDN web site
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframewo...akingchanges/).
But they have nothing to do with the VB language. These breaking
changes impact both VB and C# equally.
>
-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>

>Thanks for posting that. I was wondering about Orcas, and its impact
>on the projects I'm working on.
>>
>Robin S.
>-----------------------------
>"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidwr ote in message
>news:e3b469763 f7a8c8f33bbc44f cd4@newsgroups. comcast.net...

>>There are no syntax features slated for deprecation in the Orcas
>>release. There are some language changes planned, but they are all
>>additions to existing VB2005 syntax. If you choose not to use the
>>new
>>features, you won't even notice the difference in syntax.
>>>
>>-----
>>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>>Yes, thats the replacement for the VB.NET language. Its still going
>>>to
>>>be called VB (like last time) but there are major syntax and
>>>language
>>>changes planned..... making the current language obsolete.
>>>The Grand Master
>>>>
>>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>>
>>>>If Vb.net is to be discontinued, why is it so information
>>>>regarding
>>>>Vb 9 (Orcas) on the VB site at MSDN?
>>>>>
>>>>"Master Programmer" <master_program mer@outgun.comw rote in
>>>>message
>>>>news:116669 0536.600841.830 70@80g2000cwy.g ooglegroups.com ...
>>>>>
>>>>>Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>I would just learn C#. Its pretty common knowledge that VB.NET
>>>>>is
>>>>>very likely to be discontinued in the next release of Visual
>>>>>Studio
>>>>>because of the lack of interest in it. I can confirm this as I
>>>>>have
>>>>>a friend at Microsoft that mentioned it to me.
>>>>>Good luck with the course.
>>>>>Steve Ray Irwin
>>>>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've just finished a collegue cource in beginning Vb.net
>>>>>>programme ing,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>was supposed to take an advanced cource in VB.net next semester
>>>>>>learnin g
>>>>>>more abour object oriented programming. But this cource is
>>>>>>terminate d.
>>>>>>By options now is to either take a cource in C# or a cource in
>>>>>>ASP.Net
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>vb.net as language of choice. What would be most benefitial? The
>>>>>>C#
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>targete d on developers with Java/C++ experience, and the ASP.Net
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>vb.net
>>>>>>prorgramm ers.
>>>>>>Are there any drawbacks with ASP.Net? I realise it is not the
>>>>>>same
>>>>>>as
>>>>>>Windows development, but I will learn mote VB, and for OOP
>>>>>>programmi ng I
>>>>>>have some good learning books.
>>>>>>Please advice
>>>>>>/A.

>
>

[Cor Ligthert [MVP]]

Re: VB.Net advice needed

Tim,

I have the idea that a breaking change is for the VB team one of the very
important things not to let that happen. I think that they will build direct
an upgrade wizard if there is the slightlest change for that.

Just my gues

Cor



"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidsc hreef in bericht
news:e3b4697640 048c8f3be8dcf48 a4@newsgroups.c omcast.net...

>I should qualify what I said a little. There will be no deprecated language
>features in VB-Orcas, but there haven't been any deprecated language
>features in any of the VB releases since VB.NET 2002 came out. It's a
>pretty safe statement to make. Microsoft made their cut of language
>features when they jumped to .NET. For instance, they removed GoSub/Return
>at that time. Microsoft has no reason to remove language grammar that they
>worked hard to included in .NET. (Personally, I would like to see the
>While/End While statement removed from the language, since it is fully
>replaced by Do/Loop.)
>
However, there may be "breaking changes" in the .NET Framework classes in
the Orcas release timeframe. Microsoft periodically modifies specific
class features from release to release, and some of these changes can
impact specific programs. You can find lists of these changes on the MSDN
web site
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframewo...akingchanges/). But
they have nothing to do with the VB language. These breaking changes
impact both VB and C# equally.
>
-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>

>Thanks for posting that. I was wondering about Orcas, and its impact
>on the projects I'm working on.
>>
>Robin S.
>-----------------------------
>"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidwr ote in message
>news:e3b469763 f7a8c8f33bbc44f cd4@newsgroups. comcast.net...

>>There are no syntax features slated for deprecation in the Orcas
>>release. There are some language changes planned, but they are all
>>additions to existing VB2005 syntax. If you choose not to use the new
>>features, you won't even notice the difference in syntax.
>>>
>>-----
>>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>>Yes, thats the replacement for the VB.NET language. Its still going
>>>to
>>>be called VB (like last time) but there are major syntax and
>>>language
>>>changes planned..... making the current language obsolete.
>>>The Grand Master
>>>>
>>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>>
>>>>If Vb.net is to be discontinued, why is it so information regarding
>>>>Vb 9 (Orcas) on the VB site at MSDN?
>>>>>
>>>>"Master Programmer" <master_program mer@outgun.comw rote in message
>>>>news:116669 0536.600841.830 70@80g2000cwy.g ooglegroups.com ...
>>>>>
>>>>>Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>I would just learn C#. Its pretty common knowledge that VB.NET is
>>>>>very likely to be discontinued in the next release of Visual
>>>>>Studio
>>>>>because of the lack of interest in it. I can confirm this as I
>>>>>have
>>>>>a friend at Microsoft that mentioned it to me.
>>>>>Good luck with the course.
>>>>>Steve Ray Irwin
>>>>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've just finished a collegue cource in beginning Vb.net
>>>>>>programme ing,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>was supposed to take an advanced cource in VB.net next semester
>>>>>>learnin g
>>>>>>more abour object oriented programming. But this cource is
>>>>>>terminate d.
>>>>>>By options now is to either take a cource in C# or a cource in
>>>>>>ASP.Net
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>vb.net as language of choice. What would be most benefitial? The
>>>>>>C#
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>targete d on developers with Java/C++ experience, and the ASP.Net
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>vb.net
>>>>>>prorgramm ers.
>>>>>>Are there any drawbacks with ASP.Net? I realise it is not the
>>>>>>same
>>>>>>as
>>>>>>Windows development, but I will learn mote VB, and for OOP
>>>>>>programmi ng I
>>>>>>have some good learning books.
>>>>>>Please advice
>>>>>>/A.

>
>

[Tim Patrick]

Re: VB.Net advice needed

When moving from VB2003 to VB2005, some of the breaking changes were marked
with the ObsoleteAttribu te (or similar) attribute. Visual Studio recognized
this attribute, and displayed a warning or error message on the modified
member. They will probably do something similar for any breaking changes
in Orcas. Many of the changes are really esoteric and are just to warn you,
the programmer. For instance, in that link I posted before, there was a breaking
change warning about the Enter and Leave events for controls, stating that
those event handers might be called more often in .NET 2.0 than they were
in .NET 1.1. There is no upgrade path for this type of change; it's just
a warning.

P.S. for Robin: Since Orcas is still pre-Beta, there might not be an official
public Breaking Changes document at this time. (The document certainly already
exists for those under a Non-Disclosure Agreement with Microsoft, but it
might not be public yet.) Sorry I didn't make that clear when I posted the
link. The documented I mentioned is clearly for 1.1 to 2.0 changes.

-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005

Tim,
>
I have the idea that a breaking change is for the VB team one of the
very important things not to let that happen. I think that they will
build direct an upgrade wizard if there is the slightlest change for
that.
>
Just my gues
>
Cor
>
"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidsc hreef in bericht
news:e3b4697640 048c8f3be8dcf48 a4@newsgroups.c omcast.net...
>

>I should qualify what I said a little. There will be no deprecated
>language features in VB-Orcas, but there haven't been any deprecated
>language features in any of the VB releases since VB.NET 2002 came
>out. It's a pretty safe statement to make. Microsoft made their cut
>of language features when they jumped to .NET. For instance, they
>removed GoSub/Return at that time. Microsoft has no reason to remove
>language grammar that they worked hard to included in .NET.
>(Personally, I would like to see the While/End While statement
>removed from the language, since it is fully replaced by Do/Loop.)
>>
>However, there may be "breaking changes" in the .NET Framework
>classes in the Orcas release timeframe. Microsoft periodically
>modifies specific class features from release to release, and some of
>these changes can impact specific programs. You can find lists of
>these changes on the MSDN web site
>(http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframewo...eakingchanges/)
>. But they have nothing to do with the VB language. These breaking
>changes impact both VB and C# equally.
>>
>-----
>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005

>>Thanks for posting that. I was wondering about Orcas, and its impact
>>on the projects I'm working on.
>>>
>>Robin S.
>>-----------------------------
>>"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidwr ote in message
>>news:e3b46976 3f7a8c8f33bbc44 fcd4@newsgroups .comcast.net...
>>>There are no syntax features slated for deprecation in the Orcas
>>>release. There are some language changes planned, but they are all
>>>additions to existing VB2005 syntax. If you choose not to use the
>>>new features, you won't even notice the difference in syntax.
>>>>
>>>-----
>>>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>>>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>>>Yes, thats the replacement for the VB.NET language. Its still
>>>>going
>>>>to
>>>>be called VB (like last time) but there are major syntax and
>>>>language
>>>>changes planned..... making the current language obsolete.
>>>>The Grand Master
>>>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>If Vb.net is to be discontinued, why is it so information
>>>>>regardin g Vb 9 (Orcas) on the VB site at MSDN?
>>>>>>
>>>>>"Master Programmer" <master_program mer@outgun.comw rote in
>>>>>message
>>>>>news:11666 90536.600841.83 070@80g2000cwy. googlegroups.co m...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Andy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would just learn C#. Its pretty common knowledge that VB.NET
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>very likely to be discontinued in the next release of Visual
>>>>>>Studio
>>>>>>because of the lack of interest in it. I can confirm this as I
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>a friend at Microsoft that mentioned it to me.
>>>>>>Good luck with the course.
>>>>>>Steve Ray Irwin
>>>>>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've just finished a collegue cource in beginning Vb.net
>>>>>>>programm eing,
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>was supposed to take an advanced cource in VB.net next semester
>>>>>>>learni ng
>>>>>>>more abour object oriented programming. But this cource is
>>>>>>>terminat ed.
>>>>>>>By options now is to either take a cource in C# or a cource in
>>>>>>>ASP.Ne t
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>vb.net as language of choice. What would be most benefitial?
>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>C#
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>target ed on developers with Java/C++ experience, and the
>>>>>>>ASP.Ne t
>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>vb.net
>>>>>>>prorgram mers.
>>>>>>>Are there any drawbacks with ASP.Net? I realise it is not the
>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>Window s development, but I will learn mote VB, and for OOP
>>>>>>>programm ing I
>>>>>>>have some good learning books.
>>>>>>>Please advice
>>>>>>>/A.

[RobinS]

Re: VB.Net advice needed

Thanks; I'll wait until next summer. Or fall. Or winter...
Well, whenever Orcas finally makes its debut.

Robin S.
--------------------
"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidwr ote in message
news:e3b4697640 308c8f3decb24cf 92@newsgroups.c omcast.net...

When moving from VB2003 to VB2005, some of the breaking changes were
marked with the ObsoleteAttribu te (or similar) attribute. Visual
Studio recognized this attribute, and displayed a warning or error
message on the modified member. They will probably do something
similar for any breaking changes in Orcas. Many of the changes are
really esoteric and are just to warn you, the programmer. For
instance, in that link I posted before, there was a breaking change
warning about the Enter and Leave events for controls, stating that
those event handers might be called more often in .NET 2.0 than they
were in .NET 1.1. There is no upgrade path for this type of change;
it's just a warning.
>
P.S. for Robin: Since Orcas is still pre-Beta, there might not be an
official public Breaking Changes document at this time. (The document
certainly already exists for those under a Non-Disclosure Agreement
with Microsoft, but it might not be public yet.) Sorry I didn't make
that clear when I posted the link. The documented I mentioned is
clearly for 1.1 to 2.0 changes.
>
-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>

>Tim,
>>
>I have the idea that a breaking change is for the VB team one of the
>very important things not to let that happen. I think that they will
>build direct an upgrade wizard if there is the slightlest change for
>that.
>>
>Just my gues
>>
>Cor
>>
>"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidsc hreef in bericht
>news:e3b469764 0048c8f3be8dcf4 8a4@newsgroups. comcast.net...
>>

>>I should qualify what I said a little. There will be no deprecated
>>language features in VB-Orcas, but there haven't been any deprecated
>>language features in any of the VB releases since VB.NET 2002 came
>>out. It's a pretty safe statement to make. Microsoft made their cut
>>of language features when they jumped to .NET. For instance, they
>>removed GoSub/Return at that time. Microsoft has no reason to remove
>>language grammar that they worked hard to included in .NET.
>>(Personally , I would like to see the While/End While statement
>>removed from the language, since it is fully replaced by Do/Loop.)
>>>
>>However, there may be "breaking changes" in the .NET Framework
>>classes in the Orcas release timeframe. Microsoft periodically
>>modifies specific class features from release to release, and some
>>of
>>these changes can impact specific programs. You can find lists of
>>these changes on the MSDN web site
>>(http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframewo...eakingchanges/)
>>. But they have nothing to do with the VB language. These breaking
>>changes impact both VB and C# equally.
>>>
>>-----
>>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>>Thanks for posting that. I was wondering about Orcas, and its
>>>impact
>>>on the projects I'm working on.
>>>>
>>>Robin S.
>>>-----------------------------
>>>"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidwr ote in message
>>>news:e3b4697 63f7a8c8f33bbc4 4fcd4@newsgroup s.comcast.net.. .
>>>>There are no syntax features slated for deprecation in the Orcas
>>>>release. There are some language changes planned, but they are all
>>>>additions to existing VB2005 syntax. If you choose not to use the
>>>>new features, you won't even notice the difference in syntax.
>>>>>
>>>>-----
>>>>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>>>>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>>>>Yes, thats the replacement for the VB.NET language. Its still
>>>>>going
>>>>>to
>>>>>be called VB (like last time) but there are major syntax and
>>>>>language
>>>>>changes planned..... making the current language obsolete.
>>>>>The Grand Master
>>>>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If Vb.net is to be discontinued, why is it so information
>>>>>>regardi ng Vb 9 (Orcas) on the VB site at MSDN?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Master Programmer" <master_program mer@outgun.comw rote in
>>>>>>message
>>>>>>news:1166 690536.600841.8 3070@80g2000cwy .googlegroups.c om...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Andy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would just learn C#. Its pretty common knowledge that VB.NET
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>very likely to be discontinued in the next release of Visual
>>>>>>>Studio
>>>>>>>becaus e of the lack of interest in it. I can confirm this as I
>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>a friend at Microsoft that mentioned it to me.
>>>>>>>Good luck with the course.
>>>>>>>Steve Ray Irwin
>>>>>>>Andy.I wrote:
>>>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've just finished a collegue cource in beginning Vb.net
>>>>>>>>program meing,
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>was supposed to take an advanced cource in VB.net next
>>>>>>>>semeste r
>>>>>>>>learnin g
>>>>>>>>more abour object oriented programming. But this cource is
>>>>>>>>termina ted.
>>>>>>>>By options now is to either take a cource in C# or a cource in
>>>>>>>>ASP.N et
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>vb.ne t as language of choice. What would be most benefitial?
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>C#
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>targete d on developers with Java/C++ experience, and the
>>>>>>>>ASP.N et
>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>vb.ne t
>>>>>>>>prorgra mmers.
>>>>>>>>Are there any drawbacks with ASP.Net? I realise it is not the
>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>Windo ws development, but I will learn mote VB, and for OOP
>>>>>>>>program ming I
>>>>>>>>have some good learning books.
>>>>>>>>Pleas e advice
>>>>>>>>/A.

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