Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

[Sandy]

Hello -

I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding VB .Net and
Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has anyone attended
something they have been particularly impressed with?

Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
--
Sandy

[Jeff Allan]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

I have found these books to be good resources:

Microsoft Press Step-By-Step books for .NET (C#, VB, ASP)
Visual Basic 2005 Black Book

Training by New Horizons in the Northeast has been very productive for me.


"Sandy" <Sandy@discussi ons.microsoft.c omwrote in message
news:2478BCCC-62A5-4BDB-A1C5-A0C4E9360C04@mi crosoft.com...

Hello -
>
I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding VB .Net
and
Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has anyone attended
something they have been particularly impressed with?
>
Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
--
Sandy

[Tim Patrick]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

I've been very impressed with the new book _Start-to-Finish Visual Basic
2005_, although the author's name slips my mind.

-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005

Hello -
>
I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding VB
.Net and Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has anyone
attended something they have been particularly impressed with?
>
Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
>

[rowe_newsgroups]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

Wasn't the author Francesco Balena?

:-)

Just Kidding!,

Seth Rowe

Tim Patrick wrote:

I've been very impressed with the new book _Start-to-Finish Visual Basic
2005_, although the author's name slips my mind.
>
-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>

Hello -

I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding VB
.Net and Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has anyone
attended something they have been particularly impressed with?

Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!

[Tim Patrick]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

Ahhh! I've been mortally (or is it morally) wounded! :0

-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005

Wasn't the author Francesco Balena?
>
:-)
>
Just Kidding!,
>
Seth Rowe
>
Tim Patrick wrote:
>

>I've been very impressed with the new book _Start-to-Finish Visual
>Basic 2005_, although the author's name slips my mind.
>>
>-----
>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005

>>Hello -
>>>
>>I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding VB
>>.Net and Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has
>>anyone attended something they have been particularly impressed
>>with?
>>>
>>Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
>>>

[RobinS]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

What is your level of expertise? Have you done VB in the past? Or it
completely
new? Have you done any VB.Net at all?

I heard Tim Patrick has out a new book called "Start-to-Finish Visual Basic
2005"
that's supposed to be pretty good.

The VB2005 step-by-step book from Microsoft is really, really basic.

For more thorough info, try Francesco Balena's VB2005 : The Language book.
I don't really think it's for a beginner-beginner, but would be a good
second
book. It has no forms or data, just The Language.

Robin S.
------------------------------------------
"Sandy" <Sandy@discussi ons.microsoft.c omwrote in message
news:2478BCCC-62A5-4BDB-A1C5-A0C4E9360C04@mi crosoft.com...

Hello -
>
I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding VB .Net
and
Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has anyone attended
something they have been particularly impressed with?
>
Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
--
Sandy

[RobinS]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

I don't know about that. You could do worse than
being compared to or mistaken for Francesco Balena.

Robin S.
-----------------
"Tim Patrick" <invalid@invali d.com.invalidwr ote in message
news:e3b4697622 a18c8db66cbe5b6 f2@newsgroups.c omcast.net...

Ahhh! I've been mortally (or is it morally) wounded! :0
>
-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>

>Wasn't the author Francesco Balena?
>>
>:-)
>>
>Just Kidding!,
>>
>Seth Rowe
>>
>Tim Patrick wrote:
>>

>>I've been very impressed with the new book _Start-to-Finish Visual
>>Basic 2005_, although the author's name slips my mind.
>>>
>>-----
>>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>>Hello -
>>>>
>>>I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding VB
>>>.Net and Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has
>>>anyone attended something they have been particularly impressed
>>>with?
>>>>
>>>Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
>>>>

>
>

[rowe_newsgroups]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

Sorry, he's the author of the only .Net book I have on my desk at work.
Besides, I could have said the book was by "The Master Programmer"
(although why would he write a book about a "dead" language?) Sorry - I
can't resist a good inside joke :-)

Thanks,

Seth Rowe


Tim Patrick wrote:

Ahhh! I've been mortally (or is it morally) wounded! :0
>
-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>

Wasn't the author Francesco Balena?

:-)

Just Kidding!,

Seth Rowe

Tim Patrick wrote:

I've been very impressed with the new book _Start-to-Finish Visual
Basic 2005_, although the author's name slips my mind.
>
-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>Hello -
>>
>I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding VB
>.Net and Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has
>anyone attended something they have been particularly impressed
>with?
>>
>Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
>>

[aaron.kempf@gmail.com]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

why VB? run away; learn PHP... microsoft told us VB programmers to eat
shit so they can screw themselves

-Aaron


rowe_newsgroups wrote:

Sorry, he's the author of the only .Net book I have on my desk at work.
Besides, I could have said the book was by "The Master Programmer"
(although why would he write a book about a "dead" language?) Sorry - I
can't resist a good inside joke :-)
>
Thanks,
>
Seth Rowe
>
>
Tim Patrick wrote:

Ahhh! I've been mortally (or is it morally) wounded! :0

-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005

Wasn't the author Francesco Balena?
>
:-)
>
Just Kidding!,
>
Seth Rowe
>
Tim Patrick wrote:
>
>I've been very impressed with the new book _Start-to-Finish Visual
>Basic 2005_, although the author's name slips my mind.
>>
>-----
>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>Hello -
>>>
>>I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding VB
>>.Net and Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has
>>anyone attended something they have been particularly impressed
>>with?
>>>
>>Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
>>>

[RobinS]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

That's funny, I didn't see that in any of the press releases.
I saw a lot of stuff about powerful new capabilities, and
I have to admit the new data binding stuff is awesome, and
I'm looking forward to LINQ, but I don't remember anything
about dining recommendations .

One wonders why one who dislikes MS and VB.Net so much would
be reading and/or posting in a VB.Net newsgroup.

Robin S.
----------------------------

<aaron.kempf@gm ail.comwrote in message
news:1164135695 .341975.74050@m 73g2000cwd.goog legroups.com...

why VB? run away; learn PHP... microsoft told us VB programmers to eat
shit so they can screw themselves
>
-Aaron
>
>
rowe_newsgroups wrote:

>Sorry, he's the author of the only .Net book I have on my desk at work.
>Besides, I could have said the book was by "The Master Programmer"
>(although why would he write a book about a "dead" language?) Sorry - I
>can't resist a good inside joke :-)
>>
>Thanks,
>>
>Seth Rowe
>>
>>
>Tim Patrick wrote:

Ahhh! I've been mortally (or is it morally) wounded! :0
>
-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>
Wasn't the author Francesco Balena?
>
:-)
>
Just Kidding!,
>
Seth Rowe
>
Tim Patrick wrote:
>
>I've been very impressed with the new book _Start-to-Finish Visual
>Basic 2005_, although the author's name slips my mind.
>>
>-----
>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>Hello -
>>>
>>I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding VB
>>.Net and Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has
>>anyone attended something they have been particularly impressed
>>with?
>>>
>>Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
>>>

>

[aaron.kempf@gmail.com]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

fuck you

you know that they all bend us over backwards

they're scaring us that 'vb6 programs wont run in vista' when in fact
they do.
that kindof wishy-washy uncertainity?

it's just a joke

giving us a debugger without edit and continue?
absolutely unacceptable.

it's just bullshit

-Aaron




RobinS wrote:

That's funny, I didn't see that in any of the press releases.
I saw a lot of stuff about powerful new capabilities, and
I have to admit the new data binding stuff is awesome, and
I'm looking forward to LINQ, but I don't remember anything
about dining recommendations .
>
One wonders why one who dislikes MS and VB.Net so much would
be reading and/or posting in a VB.Net newsgroup.
>
Robin S.
----------------------------
>
<aaron.kempf@gm ail.comwrote in message
news:1164135695 .341975.74050@m 73g2000cwd.goog legroups.com...

why VB? run away; learn PHP... microsoft told us VB programmers to eat
shit so they can screw themselves

-Aaron


rowe_newsgroups wrote:

Sorry, he's the author of the only .Net book I have on my desk at work.
Besides, I could have said the book was by "The Master Programmer"
(although why would he write a book about a "dead" language?) Sorry - I
can't resist a good inside joke :-)
>
Thanks,
>
Seth Rowe
>
>
Tim Patrick wrote:
Ahhh! I've been mortally (or is it morally) wounded! :0

-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005

Wasn't the author Francesco Balena?
>
:-)
>
Just Kidding!,
>
Seth Rowe
>
Tim Patrick wrote:
>
>I've been very impressed with the new book _Start-to-Finish Visual
>Basic 2005_, although the author's name slips my mind.
>>
>-----
>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>Hello -
>>>
>>I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding VB
>>.Net and Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has
>>anyone attended something they have been particularly impressed
>>with?
>>>
>>Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
>>>

[RobinS]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

Comments below.

<aaron.kempf@gm ail.comwrote in message
news:1164138463 .376682.151980@ h54g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .

fuck you

No thanks. I try not to do that with angry bitter men.

you know that they all bend us over backwards

I disagree.

they're scaring us that 'vb6 programs wont run in vista' when in fact
they do.
that kindof wishy-washy uncertainity?

Haven't seen any of that. Everything I saw said they
made significant effort to make sure VS6 and VB6 would
still work in Windows Vista.

it's just a joke
>
giving us a debugger without edit and continue?
absolutely unacceptable.

*My* debugger has edit and continue.

it's just bullshit
>
-Aaron

Have a nice day.
Robin S.
-------------------------------------------

>
>
RobinS wrote:

>That's funny, I didn't see that in any of the press releases.
>I saw a lot of stuff about powerful new capabilities, and
>I have to admit the new data binding stuff is awesome, and
>I'm looking forward to LINQ, but I don't remember anything
>about dining recommendations .
>>
>One wonders why one who dislikes MS and VB.Net so much would
>be reading and/or posting in a VB.Net newsgroup.
>>
>Robin S.
>----------------------------
>>
><aaron.kempf@g mail.comwrote in message
>news:116413569 5.341975.74050@ m73g2000cwd.goo glegroups.com.. .

why VB? run away; learn PHP... microsoft told us VB programmers to eat
shit so they can screw themselves
>
-Aaron
>
>
rowe_newsgroups wrote:
>Sorry, he's the author of the only .Net book I have on my desk at
>work.
>Besides, I could have said the book was by "The Master Programmer"
>(although why would he write a book about a "dead" language?) Sorry -
>I
>can't resist a good inside joke :-)
>>
>Thanks,
>>
>Seth Rowe
>>
>>
>Tim Patrick wrote:
Ahhh! I've been mortally (or is it morally) wounded! :0
>
-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>
Wasn't the author Francesco Balena?
>
:-)
>
Just Kidding!,
>
Seth Rowe
>
Tim Patrick wrote:
>
>I've been very impressed with the new book _Start-to-Finish
>Visual
>Basic 2005_, although the author's name slips my mind.
>>
>-----
>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>Hello -
>>>
>>I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding
>>VB
>>.Net and Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has
>>anyone attended something they have been particularly impressed
>>with?
>>>
>>Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
>>>
>

>

[aaron.kempf@gmail.com]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

Im not angry bitter

I SPEAK THE FUCKING TRUTH BITCH

life is not flowers; MS killed the most popular language EVER for no
fucking reason.. just because they're scared of this little wimpy
company named Sun.

I just wish that MS could buy Sun and shut down this whole Java crap
and set the record straight and really really focus on VB.

I would rather flip burgers than ever use any programming language
called C or C++ or C# or Java.

-Aaron



RobinS wrote:

Comments below.
>
<aaron.kempf@gm ail.comwrote in message
news:1164138463 .376682.151980@ h54g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .

fuck you

>
No thanks. I try not to do that with angry bitter men.
>

you know that they all bend us over backwards

>
I disagree.
>

they're scaring us that 'vb6 programs wont run in vista' when in fact
they do.
that kindof wishy-washy uncertainity?

>
Haven't seen any of that. Everything I saw said they
made significant effort to make sure VS6 and VB6 would
still work in Windows Vista.
>

it's just a joke

giving us a debugger without edit and continue?
absolutely unacceptable.

>
*My* debugger has edit and continue.
>

it's just bullshit

-Aaron

>
Have a nice day.
Robin S.
-------------------------------------------

RobinS wrote:

That's funny, I didn't see that in any of the press releases.
I saw a lot of stuff about powerful new capabilities, and
I have to admit the new data binding stuff is awesome, and
I'm looking forward to LINQ, but I don't remember anything
about dining recommendations .
>
One wonders why one who dislikes MS and VB.Net so much would
be reading and/or posting in a VB.Net newsgroup.
>
Robin S.
----------------------------
>
<aaron.kempf@gm ail.comwrote in message
news:1164135695 .341975.74050@m 73g2000cwd.goog legroups.com...
why VB? run away; learn PHP... microsoft told us VB programmers to eat
shit so they can screw themselves

-Aaron


rowe_newsgroups wrote:
Sorry, he's the author of the only .Net book I have on my desk at
work.
Besides, I could have said the book was by "The Master Programmer"
(although why would he write a book about a "dead" language?) Sorry -
I
can't resist a good inside joke :-)
>
Thanks,
>
Seth Rowe
>
>
Tim Patrick wrote:
Ahhh! I've been mortally (or is it morally) wounded! :0

-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005

Wasn't the author Francesco Balena?
>
:-)
>
Just Kidding!,
>
Seth Rowe
>
Tim Patrick wrote:
>
>I've been very impressed with the new book _Start-to-Finish
>Visual
>Basic 2005_, although the author's name slips my mind.
>>
>-----
>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>Hello -
>>>
>>I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding
>>VB
>>.Net and Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has
>>anyone attended something they have been particularly impressed
>>with?
>>>
>>Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
>>>

[Master Programmer]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

MESSAGE TO ALL NEW PROGRAMMERS CONSIDERING MS TOOLS.....

If you are new too programming and considering Visual Basic (including
any new versions - 2005 etc) - take this advice.... Reconsider
learning it at all !

Do yourself a favour and learn a different language. Microsoft
constantly change languages and discontinue them. Ask anyone whom knew
Visual Basic 6.0 and they will tell you how MS has destroyed the
language. Learning VB is a bad idea because its very likely that VB
will soon be dropped.

I agree with Aaron, PHP is a much better choice.

The Grand Master

aaron.kempf@gma il.com wrote:

Im not angry bitter
>
I SPEAK THE FUCKING TRUTH BITCH
>
life is not flowers; MS killed the most popular language EVER for no
fucking reason.. just because they're scared of this little wimpy
company named Sun.
>
I just wish that MS could buy Sun and shut down this whole Java crap
and set the record straight and really really focus on VB.
>
I would rather flip burgers than ever use any programming language
called C or C++ or C# or Java.
>
-Aaron
>
>
>
RobinS wrote:

Comments below.

<aaron.kempf@gm ail.comwrote in message
news:1164138463 .376682.151980@ h54g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .

fuck you

No thanks. I try not to do that with angry bitter men.

you know that they all bend us over backwards

I disagree.

they're scaring us that 'vb6 programs wont run in vista' when in fact
they do.
that kindof wishy-washy uncertainity?

Haven't seen any of that. Everything I saw said they
made significant effort to make sure VS6 and VB6 would
still work in Windows Vista.

it's just a joke
>
giving us a debugger without edit and continue?
absolutely unacceptable.

*My* debugger has edit and continue.

it's just bullshit
>
-Aaron

Have a nice day.
Robin S.
-------------------------------------------

>
>
RobinS wrote:
>That's funny, I didn't see that in any of the press releases.
>I saw a lot of stuff about powerful new capabilities, and
>I have to admit the new data binding stuff is awesome, and
>I'm looking forward to LINQ, but I don't remember anything
>about dining recommendations .
>>
>One wonders why one who dislikes MS and VB.Net so much would
>be reading and/or posting in a VB.Net newsgroup.
>>
>Robin S.
>----------------------------
>>
><aaron.kempf@g mail.comwrote in message
>news:116413569 5.341975.74050@ m73g2000cwd.goo glegroups.com.. .
why VB? run away; learn PHP... microsoft told us VB programmers to eat
shit so they can screw themselves
>
-Aaron
>
>
rowe_newsgroups wrote:
>Sorry, he's the author of the only .Net book I have on my desk at
>work.
>Besides, I could have said the book was by "The Master Programmer"
>(although why would he write a book about a "dead" language?) Sorry -
>I
>can't resist a good inside joke :-)
>>
>Thanks,
>>
>Seth Rowe
>>
>>
>Tim Patrick wrote:
Ahhh! I've been mortally (or is it morally) wounded! :0
>
-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>
Wasn't the author Francesco Balena?
>
:-)
>
Just Kidding!,
>
Seth Rowe
>
Tim Patrick wrote:
>
>I've been very impressed with the new book _Start-to-Finish
>Visual
>Basic 2005_, although the author's name slips my mind.
>>
>-----
>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>Hello -
>>>
>>I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding
>>VB
>>.Net and Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has
>>anyone attended something they have been particularly impressed
>>with?
>>>
>>Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
>>>
>
>

[aaron.kempf@gmail.com]

Re: Recommendations - VB .Net courses/seminars

your debugger has edit and continue?

are you referring to VB6?

the edit and continue in VB2005 isn't effective; it's slow; it doesn't
work in half situations

-Aaron


RobinS wrote:

Comments below.
>
<aaron.kempf@gm ail.comwrote in message
news:1164138463 .376682.151980@ h54g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .

fuck you

>
No thanks. I try not to do that with angry bitter men.
>

you know that they all bend us over backwards

>
I disagree.
>

they're scaring us that 'vb6 programs wont run in vista' when in fact
they do.
that kindof wishy-washy uncertainity?

>
Haven't seen any of that. Everything I saw said they
made significant effort to make sure VS6 and VB6 would
still work in Windows Vista.
>

it's just a joke

giving us a debugger without edit and continue?
absolutely unacceptable.

>
*My* debugger has edit and continue.
>

it's just bullshit

-Aaron

>
Have a nice day.
Robin S.
-------------------------------------------

RobinS wrote:

That's funny, I didn't see that in any of the press releases.
I saw a lot of stuff about powerful new capabilities, and
I have to admit the new data binding stuff is awesome, and
I'm looking forward to LINQ, but I don't remember anything
about dining recommendations .
>
One wonders why one who dislikes MS and VB.Net so much would
be reading and/or posting in a VB.Net newsgroup.
>
Robin S.
----------------------------
>
<aaron.kempf@gm ail.comwrote in message
news:1164135695 .341975.74050@m 73g2000cwd.goog legroups.com...
why VB? run away; learn PHP... microsoft told us VB programmers to eat
shit so they can screw themselves

-Aaron


rowe_newsgroups wrote:
Sorry, he's the author of the only .Net book I have on my desk at
work.
Besides, I could have said the book was by "The Master Programmer"
(although why would he write a book about a "dead" language?) Sorry -
I
can't resist a good inside joke :-)
>
Thanks,
>
Seth Rowe
>
>
Tim Patrick wrote:
Ahhh! I've been mortally (or is it morally) wounded! :0

-----
Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005

Wasn't the author Francesco Balena?
>
:-)
>
Just Kidding!,
>
Seth Rowe
>
Tim Patrick wrote:
>
>I've been very impressed with the new book _Start-to-Finish
>Visual
>Basic 2005_, although the author's name slips my mind.
>>
>-----
>Tim Patrick - www.timaki.com
>Start-to-Finish Visual Basic 2005
>>Hello -
>>>
>>I am looking for recommendations for courses/seminars regarding
>>VB
>>.Net and Visual Studio .Net, preferrably in the Northeast. Has
>>anyone attended something they have been particularly impressed
>>with?
>>>
>>Also, any suggestions for good books, CDs, will be appreciated!
>>>