Class inheritence

[Zach]

When I worked with Delphi, they always included in the box a large wall
poster depicting every class (starting with TObject) and showing the
child classes from there. There was also a .pdf file showing the same.

I found two wall posters with the VS 2005 Pro package but nothing on the
scale of showing every class in VB and their descendants. Does such a
visual aid exist, either as a poster or .pdf file? While I can look
through the MSDN on specific classes, it sure makes it a lot easier to
view the hierarchy visually in a graph-like form.

By the way, as a side note; I worked with VB up until version 4. I then
switched to Delphi because it was so much more "complete" than VB was at
the time (classes, code reuse, more components, the ability to create
your own from scratch, etc). Having tried VB 2005 for the first time
recently, I'm happy to say I'm back to stay. VB has changed so much
with .NET and is easier to use than ever but much more powerful than
before. Kudos to Microsoft for their efforts!

Zach

[Cor Ligthert [MVP]]

Re: Class inheritence

Zach,

I am afraid, I am not complete understanding what you want. Refereing to a
complete other development environment is decreasing the chance that you hit
with your message.

Are you sure that you are not meaning the objectbrowser as you find that in
the View?

Cor

"Zach" <zsmith@cox.net .nospamschreef in bericht
news:%2328Oq9Yx GHA.800@TK2MSFT NGP06.phx.gbl.. .

When I worked with Delphi, they always included in the box a large wall
poster depicting every class (starting with TObject) and showing the child
classes from there. There was also a .pdf file showing the same.
>
I found two wall posters with the VS 2005 Pro package but nothing on the
scale of showing every class in VB and their descendants. Does such a
visual aid exist, either as a poster or .pdf file? While I can look
through the MSDN on specific classes, it sure makes it a lot easier to
view the hierarchy visually in a graph-like form.
>
By the way, as a side note; I worked with VB up until version 4. I then
switched to Delphi because it was so much more "complete" than VB was at
the time (classes, code reuse, more components, the ability to create your
own from scratch, etc). Having tried VB 2005 for the first time recently,
I'm happy to say I'm back to stay. VB has changed so much with .NET and
is easier to use than ever but much more powerful than before. Kudos to
Microsoft for their efforts!
>
Zach

[Zach]

Re: Class inheritence

The Object Browser is helpful in that it lists the classes and such but
not in an intuitive manner if you don't know what you're specifically
looking for. What I'm describing is a color coded wall chart or a .pdf
file that graphically lists/displays every class in VB 2005 from Object
on down. The browser is a great source of information about the classes
once you find what you're looking for but a chart that simply lists the
class hierarchy is what I'm interested in. From there I can go to the
browser to collect more info about the class, its
ascendants/descendants, methods, properties, etc.

Zach


Cor Ligthert [MVP] wrote:

Zach,
>
I am afraid, I am not complete understanding what you want. Refereing to a
complete other development environment is decreasing the chance that you hit
with your message.
>
Are you sure that you are not meaning the objectbrowser as you find that in
the View?
>
Cor
>
"Zach" <zsmith@cox.net .nospamschreef in bericht
news:%2328Oq9Yx GHA.800@TK2MSFT NGP06.phx.gbl.. .

>When I worked with Delphi, they always included in the box a large wall
>poster depicting every class (starting with TObject) and showing the child
>classes from there. There was also a .pdf file showing the same.
>>
>I found two wall posters with the VS 2005 Pro package but nothing on the
>scale of showing every class in VB and their descendants. Does such a
>visual aid exist, either as a poster or .pdf file? While I can look
>through the MSDN on specific classes, it sure makes it a lot easier to
>view the hierarchy visually in a graph-like form.
>>
>By the way, as a side note; I worked with VB up until version 4. I then
>switched to Delphi because it was so much more "complete" than VB was at
>the time (classes, code reuse, more components, the ability to create your
>own from scratch, etc). Having tried VB 2005 for the first time recently,
>I'm happy to say I'm back to stay. VB has changed so much with .NET and
>is easier to use than ever but much more powerful than before. Kudos to
>Microsoft for their efforts!
>>
>Zach

>
>

[Cor Ligthert [MVP]]

Re: Class inheritence

Zach,

Reading your message again.

I have the idea that you need one wall of the pentagon to put Net with all
its classes and decendants on one view. That than only with the standard
classes and not the inherited ones that you have downloaded or made
yourself.

Using MSDN if you have found a class (every day more dificult) gives mostly
very much information about its parent and about its children.

Cor

"Zach" <zsmith@cox.net .nospamschreef in bericht
news:OO$CuKbxGH A.5044@TK2MSFTN GP05.phx.gbl...

The Object Browser is helpful in that it lists the classes and such but
not in an intuitive manner if you don't know what you're specifically
looking for. What I'm describing is a color coded wall chart or a .pdf
file that graphically lists/displays every class in VB 2005 from Object on
down. The browser is a great source of information about the classes once
you find what you're looking for but a chart that simply lists the class
hierarchy is what I'm interested in. From there I can go to the browser
to collect more info about the class, its ascendants/descendants, methods,
properties, etc.
>
Zach
>
>
Cor Ligthert [MVP] wrote:

>Zach,
>>
>I am afraid, I am not complete understanding what you want. Refereing to
>a complete other development environment is decreasing the chance that
>you hit with your message.
>>
>Are you sure that you are not meaning the objectbrowser as you find that
>in the View?
>>
>Cor
>>
>"Zach" <zsmith@cox.net .nospamschreef in bericht
>news:%2328Oq9Y xGHA.800@TK2MSF TNGP06.phx.gbl. ..

>>When I worked with Delphi, they always included in the box a large wall
>>poster depicting every class (starting with TObject) and showing the
>>child classes from there. There was also a .pdf file showing the same.
>>>
>>I found two wall posters with the VS 2005 Pro package but nothing on the
>>scale of showing every class in VB and their descendants. Does such a
>>visual aid exist, either as a poster or .pdf file? While I can look
>>through the MSDN on specific classes, it sure makes it a lot easier to
>>view the hierarchy visually in a graph-like form.
>>>
>>By the way, as a side note; I worked with VB up until version 4. I then
>>switched to Delphi because it was so much more "complete" than VB was at
>>the time (classes, code reuse, more components, the ability to create
>>your own from scratch, etc). Having tried VB 2005 for the first time
>>recently, I'm happy to say I'm back to stay. VB has changed so much
>>with .NET and is easier to use than ever but much more powerful than
>>before. Kudos to Microsoft for their efforts!
>>>
>>Zach

>>

[Michael D. Ober]

Re: Class inheritence

He's asking for a class dependency chart similar to the MFC class dependency
chart that came with VS 6 Enterprise and that is available for MFC 7 at
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ws8s10w4.aspx.

Mike Ober.

"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstname @planet.nlwrote in message
news:%23PDftkax GHA.2352@TK2MSF TNGP06.phx.gbl. ..

Zach,
>
I am afraid, I am not complete understanding what you want. Refereing to a
complete other development environment is decreasing the chance that you
hit with your message.
>
Are you sure that you are not meaning the objectbrowser as you find that
in the View?
>
Cor
>
"Zach" <zsmith@cox.net .nospamschreef in bericht
news:%2328Oq9Yx GHA.800@TK2MSFT NGP06.phx.gbl.. .

>When I worked with Delphi, they always included in the box a large wall
>poster depicting every class (starting with TObject) and showing the
>child classes from there. There was also a .pdf file showing the same.
>>
>I found two wall posters with the VS 2005 Pro package but nothing on the
>scale of showing every class in VB and their descendants. Does such a
>visual aid exist, either as a poster or .pdf file? While I can look
>through the MSDN on specific classes, it sure makes it a lot easier to
>view the hierarchy visually in a graph-like form.
>>
>By the way, as a side note; I worked with VB up until version 4. I then
>switched to Delphi because it was so much more "complete" than VB was at
>the time (classes, code reuse, more components, the ability to create
>your own from scratch, etc). Having tried VB 2005 for the first time
>recently, I'm happy to say I'm back to stay. VB has changed so much with
>.NET and is easier to use than ever but much more powerful than before.
>Kudos to Microsoft for their efforts!
>>
>Zach

>
>

[Cor Ligthert [MVP]]

Re: Class inheritence (Peter, Kevin or Jeffrey)

Michael,

That I understood when I wrote my message about the wall of the Pentagon

:-)

Now I think deepter about that, I thought that I remember me that Jeffrey,
Kevin or Peter has sent once a link for 1.1 about that to One handed man,
but how to find that

As you see have I added these names to the subject so *as they know it* they
probably will give it.

Cor

"Michael D. Ober" <obermd.@.alum. mit.edu.nospams chreef in bericht
news:ejWAWtexGH A.2400@TK2MSFTN GP06.phx.gbl...

He's asking for a class dependency chart similar to the MFC class
dependency chart that came with VS 6 Enterprise and that is available for
MFC 7 at http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ws8s10w4.aspx.
>
Mike Ober.
>
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstname @planet.nlwrote in message
news:%23PDftkax GHA.2352@TK2MSF TNGP06.phx.gbl. ..

>Zach,
>>
>I am afraid, I am not complete understanding what you want. Refereing to
>a complete other development environment is decreasing the chance that
>you hit with your message.
>>
>Are you sure that you are not meaning the objectbrowser as you find that
>in the View?
>>
>Cor
>>
>"Zach" <zsmith@cox.net .nospamschreef in bericht
>news:%2328Oq9Y xGHA.800@TK2MSF TNGP06.phx.gbl. ..

>>When I worked with Delphi, they always included in the box a large wall
>>poster depicting every class (starting with TObject) and showing the
>>child classes from there. There was also a .pdf file showing the same.
>>>
>>I found two wall posters with the VS 2005 Pro package but nothing on the
>>scale of showing every class in VB and their descendants. Does such a
>>visual aid exist, either as a poster or .pdf file? While I can look
>>through the MSDN on specific classes, it sure makes it a lot easier to
>>view the hierarchy visually in a graph-like form.
>>>
>>By the way, as a side note; I worked with VB up until version 4. I then
>>switched to Delphi because it was so much more "complete" than VB was at
>>the time (classes, code reuse, more components, the ability to create
>>your own from scratch, etc). Having tried VB 2005 for the first time
>>recently, I'm happy to say I'm back to stay. VB has changed so much
>>with .NET and is easier to use than ever but much more powerful than
>>before. Kudos to Microsoft for their efforts!
>>>
>>Zach

>>
>>

>
>

[Chris Dunaway]

Re: Class inheritence

Zach wrote:

The Object Browser is helpful in that it lists the classes and such but
not in an intuitive manner if you don't know what you're specifically
looking for. What I'm describing is a color coded wall chart or a .pdf
file that graphically lists/displays every class in VB 2005 from Object
on down. The browser is a great source of information about the classes
once you find what you're looking for but a chart that simply lists the
class hierarchy is what I'm interested in. From there I can go to the
browser to collect more info about the class, its
ascendants/descendants, methods, properties, etc.
>

I found this link:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/previous/2003/posters/download

[Cor Ligthert [MVP]]

Re: Class inheritence

That are the ones I mean Chris

Posters it was.

Cor

"Chris Dunaway" <dunawayc@gmail .comschreef in bericht
news:1156253057 .285372.199010@ b28g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .

Zach wrote:

>The Object Browser is helpful in that it lists the classes and such but
>not in an intuitive manner if you don't know what you're specifically
>looking for. What I'm describing is a color coded wall chart or a .pdf
>file that graphically lists/displays every class in VB 2005 from Object
>on down. The browser is a great source of information about the classes
>once you find what you're looking for but a chart that simply lists the
>class hierarchy is what I'm interested in. From there I can go to the
>browser to collect more info about the class, its
>ascendants/descendants, methods, properties, etc.
>>

>
I found this link:
>

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/previous/2003/posters/download

>

[Zach]

Re: Class inheritence

Chris Dunaway wrote:

Zach wrote:

>The Object Browser is helpful in that it lists the classes and such but
>not in an intuitive manner if you don't know what you're specifically
>looking for. What I'm describing is a color coded wall chart or a .pdf
>file that graphically lists/displays every class in VB 2005 from Object
>on down. The browser is a great source of information about the classes
>once you find what you're looking for but a chart that simply lists the
>class hierarchy is what I'm interested in. From there I can go to the
>browser to collect more info about the class, its
>ascendants/descendants, methods, properties, etc.
>>

>
I found this link:
>

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/previous/2003/posters/download

>

Thanks Chris...that is exactly what I'm looking for (and then some)!

Zach