Slow and generic feeling.

[Dimsion]

Hi everyone,

I have been using VB5/VB6 and loving it but since my upgrade/new
installation to VS.net 2003 and even the new VB.net 2005 beta 1. The GUI
design is very slow and generic looking.
Every time I read any post on any of these product, no one seem to have this
issue so I was wondering if I miss something. I have even try to disable
most feature like auto completion, external help and its still slow and
generic feeling. Any time I resize the form or double click to get into the
code, it take some time to get in(even with new project). Sometime I feel
like I'm fighting with the IDE GUI more than coding. Any help or suggestion
would be greatly appreciated.

My computer spec:

Windows XP Pro SP2
Intel 3.2(1mb cache)GHz 2Gig Ram
Seagate 2x100gig HD.
ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 256Mb ram.
(Sager laptop model 8790 with max upgrade).

btw, I have try sharpdevelop and that is fast very fast compare to VS.net
2003/VB.net 2005 beta 1. I'm hoping that the problem is in my configuration
with VS/VB.

Thanks,

[Brian Henry]

Re: Slow and generic feeling.

never had any problems with it myself, and how generic could you get? VB4
was ultra generic for an IDE

"Dimsion" <dimsion@hotmai l.com> wrote in message
news:ugvRnp5IFH A.2936@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have been using VB5/VB6 and loving it but since my upgrade/new
> installation to VS.net 2003 and even the new VB.net 2005 beta 1. The GUI
> design is very slow and generic looking.
> Every time I read any post on any of these product, no one seem to have
> this issue so I was wondering if I miss something. I have even try to
> disable most feature like auto completion, external help and its still
> slow and generic feeling. Any time I resize the form or double click to
> get into the code, it take some time to get in(even with new project).
> Sometime I feel like I'm fighting with the IDE GUI more than coding. Any
> help or suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
>
> My computer spec:
>
> Windows XP Pro SP2
> Intel 3.2(1mb cache)GHz 2Gig Ram
> Seagate 2x100gig HD.
> ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 256Mb ram.
> (Sager laptop model 8790 with max upgrade).
>
> btw, I have try sharpdevelop and that is fast very fast compare to VS.net
> 2003/VB.net 2005 beta 1. I'm hoping that the problem is in my
> configuration with VS/VB.
>
> Thanks,
>[/color]

[Scott]

Re: Slow and generic feeling.

Sounds like you have a decent system that has got a big clogged up with a
lot of spyware. Download spybot search and destroy... this should speed up
your system beyond belief and also protect it...

SS


"Brian Henry" <brianiupmsdn@n ewsgroups.nospa m> wrote in message
news:uctO0F6IFH A.2956@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> never had any problems with it myself, and how generic could you get? VB4
> was ultra generic for an IDE
>
> "Dimsion" <dimsion@hotmai l.com> wrote in message
> news:ugvRnp5IFH A.2936@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I have been using VB5/VB6 and loving it but since my upgrade/new
>> installation to VS.net 2003 and even the new VB.net 2005 beta 1. The GUI
>> design is very slow and generic looking.
>> Every time I read any post on any of these product, no one seem to have
>> this issue so I was wondering if I miss something. I have even try to
>> disable most feature like auto completion, external help and its still
>> slow and generic feeling. Any time I resize the form or double click to
>> get into the code, it take some time to get in(even with new project).
>> Sometime I feel like I'm fighting with the IDE GUI more than coding. Any
>> help or suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> My computer spec:
>>
>> Windows XP Pro SP2
>> Intel 3.2(1mb cache)GHz 2Gig Ram
>> Seagate 2x100gig HD.
>> ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 256Mb ram.
>> (Sager laptop model 8790 with max upgrade).
>>
>> btw, I have try sharpdevelop and that is fast very fast compare to VS.net
>> 2003/VB.net 2005 beta 1. I'm hoping that the problem is in my
>> configuration with VS/VB.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Dimsion]

Re: Slow and generic feeling.

Scott,

This is a new build system with no software other then norton anti-virus
corp. edition, visual studio 6/2003/VB.net 2005 beta, borland c++ builder 6,
borland c++ builder X, borland delphi 2005, and sharpdevelop.



"Scott" <sjstemp@btinte rnet.com> wrote in message
news:yvfXd.63$X R5.25@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...[color=blue]
> Sounds like you have a decent system that has got a big clogged up with a
> lot of spyware. Download spybot search and destroy... this should speed
> up your system beyond belief and also protect it...
>
> SS
>
>
> "Brian Henry" <brianiupmsdn@n ewsgroups.nospa m> wrote in message
> news:uctO0F6IFH A.2956@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> never had any problems with it myself, and how generic could you get? VB4
>> was ultra generic for an IDE
>>
>> "Dimsion" <dimsion@hotmai l.com> wrote in message
>> news:ugvRnp5IFH A.2936@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I have been using VB5/VB6 and loving it but since my upgrade/new
>>> installation to VS.net 2003 and even the new VB.net 2005 beta 1. The GUI
>>> design is very slow and generic looking.
>>> Every time I read any post on any of these product, no one seem to have
>>> this issue so I was wondering if I miss something. I have even try to
>>> disable most feature like auto completion, external help and its still
>>> slow and generic feeling. Any time I resize the form or double click to
>>> get into the code, it take some time to get in(even with new project).
>>> Sometime I feel like I'm fighting with the IDE GUI more than coding. Any
>>> help or suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> My computer spec:
>>>
>>> Windows XP Pro SP2
>>> Intel 3.2(1mb cache)GHz 2Gig Ram
>>> Seagate 2x100gig HD.
>>> ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 256Mb ram.
>>> (Sager laptop model 8790 with max upgrade).
>>>
>>> btw, I have try sharpdevelop and that is fast very fast compare to
>>> VS.net 2003/VB.net 2005 beta 1. I'm hoping that the problem is in my
>>> configuration with VS/VB.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Dennis]

Re: Slow and generic feeling.

I have a system with half the speed of yours and VB.Net 2003 works almost
instantly although it does take a few seconds to load a new project if it's
big. You must have some other problem with your system.

"Dimsion" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Scott,
>
> This is a new build system with no software other then norton anti-virus
> corp. edition, visual studio 6/2003/VB.net 2005 beta, borland c++ builder 6,
> borland c++ builder X, borland delphi 2005, and sharpdevelop.
>
>
>
> "Scott" <sjstemp@btinte rnet.com> wrote in message
> news:yvfXd.63$X R5.25@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...[color=green]
> > Sounds like you have a decent system that has got a big clogged up with a
> > lot of spyware. Download spybot search and destroy... this should speed
> > up your system beyond belief and also protect it...
> >
> > SS
> >
> >
> > "Brian Henry" <brianiupmsdn@n ewsgroups.nospa m> wrote in message
> > news:uctO0F6IFH A.2956@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> >> never had any problems with it myself, and how generic could you get? VB4
> >> was ultra generic for an IDE
> >>
> >> "Dimsion" <dimsion@hotmai l.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ugvRnp5IFH A.2936@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl...
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>> I have been using VB5/VB6 and loving it but since my upgrade/new
> >>> installation to VS.net 2003 and even the new VB.net 2005 beta 1. The GUI
> >>> design is very slow and generic looking.
> >>> Every time I read any post on any of these product, no one seem to have
> >>> this issue so I was wondering if I miss something. I have even try to
> >>> disable most feature like auto completion, external help and its still
> >>> slow and generic feeling. Any time I resize the form or double click to
> >>> get into the code, it take some time to get in(even with new project).
> >>> Sometime I feel like I'm fighting with the IDE GUI more than coding. Any
> >>> help or suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> My computer spec:
> >>>
> >>> Windows XP Pro SP2
> >>> Intel 3.2(1mb cache)GHz 2Gig Ram
> >>> Seagate 2x100gig HD.
> >>> ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 256Mb ram.
> >>> (Sager laptop model 8790 with max upgrade).
> >>>
> >>> btw, I have try sharpdevelop and that is fast very fast compare to
> >>> VS.net 2003/VB.net 2005 beta 1. I'm hoping that the problem is in my
> >>> configuration with VS/VB.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>
> >>[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

[Dimsion]

Re: Slow and generic feeling.

I have just install it on other system with almost the same spec and its
still slow.

Windows XP Pro SP2
Intel 3.2 (512kb cache), 2Gig Ram
Seagate 160mb HD
ATI all-in-wonder 128mb

"Dennis" <Dennis@discuss ions.microsoft. com> wrote in message
news:CBF39270-6425-48FF-A45D-EAB06052B96A@mi crosoft.com...[color=blue]
>I have a system with half the speed of yours and VB.Net 2003 works almost
> instantly although it does take a few seconds to load a new project if
> it's
> big. You must have some other problem with your system.
>
> "Dimsion" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Scott,
>>
>> This is a new build system with no software other then norton anti-virus
>> corp. edition, visual studio 6/2003/VB.net 2005 beta, borland c++ builder
>> 6,
>> borland c++ builder X, borland delphi 2005, and sharpdevelop.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Scott" <sjstemp@btinte rnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:yvfXd.63$X R5.25@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...[color=darkred]
>> > Sounds like you have a decent system that has got a big clogged up with
>> > a
>> > lot of spyware. Download spybot search and destroy... this should
>> > speed
>> > up your system beyond belief and also protect it...
>> >
>> > SS
>> >
>> >
>> > "Brian Henry" <brianiupmsdn@n ewsgroups.nospa m> wrote in message
>> > news:uctO0F6IFH A.2956@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> never had any problems with it myself, and how generic could you get?
>> >> VB4
>> >> was ultra generic for an IDE
>> >>
>> >> "Dimsion" <dimsion@hotmai l.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:ugvRnp5IFH A.2936@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl...
>> >>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>> I have been using VB5/VB6 and loving it but since my upgrade/new
>> >>> installation to VS.net 2003 and even the new VB.net 2005 beta 1. The
>> >>> GUI
>> >>> design is very slow and generic looking.
>> >>> Every time I read any post on any of these product, no one seem to
>> >>> have
>> >>> this issue so I was wondering if I miss something. I have even try to
>> >>> disable most feature like auto completion, external help and its
>> >>> still
>> >>> slow and generic feeling. Any time I resize the form or double click
>> >>> to
>> >>> get into the code, it take some time to get in(even with new
>> >>> project).
>> >>> Sometime I feel like I'm fighting with the IDE GUI more than coding.
>> >>> Any
>> >>> help or suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
>> >>>
>> >>> My computer spec:
>> >>>
>> >>> Windows XP Pro SP2
>> >>> Intel 3.2(1mb cache)GHz 2Gig Ram
>> >>> Seagate 2x100gig HD.
>> >>> ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 256Mb ram.
>> >>> (Sager laptop model 8790 with max upgrade).
>> >>>
>> >>> btw, I have try sharpdevelop and that is fast very fast compare to
>> >>> VS.net 2003/VB.net 2005 beta 1. I'm hoping that the problem is in my
>> >>> configuration with VS/VB.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

[Rob Nicholson]

Re: Slow and generic feeling.

>I have just install it on other system with almost the same spec and its[color=blue]
>still slow.[/color]

I'm running on a AMD 2100+ with 768MB of RAM and the IDE is perfectly
responsive.

How about some specific examples?

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "generic feeling" - maybe not quite the
right word in English but please don't ask me to help with your native
language! :-)

Cheers, Rob.

[Dimsion]

Re: Slow and generic feeling.

Rob,

What i meant by generic is that if you look at vb5/6, when you resize or add
component into the form it instance. It doesn't delay or pause.
When i use vb.net or visual studio 2003 it seem as if i use it over the
remote connection, its just slow and not very responsive. i try sharpdevelop
and its very fast and it felt like
the vb5/6 version.

I heard from everyone including a few respond to this topic, that they don't
have the same issue. I can only assume my configuration. I have search
google and just can't find any issue.
Maybe my question now would be how to optimize/fine tune visual studio.net.

"Rob Nicholson" <rob.nicholson@ nospam-unforgettable.c om> wrote in message
news:eN17AVKJFH A.3628@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl...[color=blue][color=green]
> >I have just install it on other system with almost the same spec and its
> >still slow.[/color]
>
> I'm running on a AMD 2100+ with 768MB of RAM and the IDE is perfectly
> responsive.
>
> How about some specific examples?
>
> Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "generic feeling" - maybe not quite
> the right word in English but please don't ask me to help with your native
> language! :-)
>
> Cheers, Rob.
>[/color]

[Dennis]

Re: Slow and generic feeling.

Do you by chance have your "build" option set to Release instead of Debug?

"Dimsion" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Rob,
>
> What i meant by generic is that if you look at vb5/6, when you resize or add
> component into the form it instance. It doesn't delay or pause.
> When i use vb.net or visual studio 2003 it seem as if i use it over the
> remote connection, its just slow and not very responsive. i try sharpdevelop
> and its very fast and it felt like
> the vb5/6 version.
>
> I heard from everyone including a few respond to this topic, that they don't
> have the same issue. I can only assume my configuration. I have search
> google and just can't find any issue.
> Maybe my question now would be how to optimize/fine tune visual studio.net.
>
> "Rob Nicholson" <rob.nicholson@ nospam-unforgettable.c om> wrote in message
> news:eN17AVKJFH A.3628@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl...[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >I have just install it on other system with almost the same spec and its
> > >still slow.[/color]
> >
> > I'm running on a AMD 2100+ with 768MB of RAM and the IDE is perfectly
> > responsive.
> >
> > How about some specific examples?
> >
> > Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "generic feeling" - maybe not quite
> > the right word in English but please don't ask me to help with your native
> > language! :-)
> >
> > Cheers, Rob.
> >[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

[Dimsion]

Re: Slow and generic feeling.

Dennis,

I have the setting to default (debug).


"Dennis" <Dennis@discuss ions.microsoft. com> wrote in message
news:A3D29388-09DE-48AB-ACB9-AA1C7BB065FE@mi crosoft.com...[color=blue]
> Do you by chance have your "build" option set to Release instead of Debug?
>
> "Dimsion" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Rob,
>>
>> What i meant by generic is that if you look at vb5/6, when you resize or
>> add
>> component into the form it instance. It doesn't delay or pause.
>> When i use vb.net or visual studio 2003 it seem as if i use it over the
>> remote connection, its just slow and not very responsive. i try
>> sharpdevelop
>> and its very fast and it felt like
>> the vb5/6 version.
>>
>> I heard from everyone including a few respond to this topic, that they
>> don't
>> have the same issue. I can only assume my configuration. I have search
>> google and just can't find any issue.
>> Maybe my question now would be how to optimize/fine tune visual
>> studio.net.
>>
>> "Rob Nicholson" <rob.nicholson@ nospam-unforgettable.c om> wrote in message
>> news:eN17AVKJFH A.3628@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>> > >I have just install it on other system with almost the same spec and
>> > >its
>> > >still slow.
>> >
>> > I'm running on a AMD 2100+ with 768MB of RAM and the IDE is perfectly
>> > responsive.
>> >
>> > How about some specific examples?
>> >
>> > Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "generic feeling" - maybe not quite
>> > the right word in English but please don't ask me to help with your
>> > native
>> > language! :-)
>> >
>> > Cheers, Rob.
>> >[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

[Dennis]

Re: Slow and generic feeling.

I was referring to the options under the "Build" > Configurations > "you can
set the type of build (debug or release) for each project.

"Dimsion" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Dennis,
>
> I have the setting to default (debug).
>
>
> "Dennis" <Dennis@discuss ions.microsoft. com> wrote in message
> news:A3D29388-09DE-48AB-ACB9-AA1C7BB065FE@mi crosoft.com...[color=green]
> > Do you by chance have your "build" option set to Release instead of Debug?
> >
> > "Dimsion" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> What i meant by generic is that if you look at vb5/6, when you resize or
> >> add
> >> component into the form it instance. It doesn't delay or pause.
> >> When i use vb.net or visual studio 2003 it seem as if i use it over the
> >> remote connection, its just slow and not very responsive. i try
> >> sharpdevelop
> >> and its very fast and it felt like
> >> the vb5/6 version.
> >>
> >> I heard from everyone including a few respond to this topic, that they
> >> don't
> >> have the same issue. I can only assume my configuration. I have search
> >> google and just can't find any issue.
> >> Maybe my question now would be how to optimize/fine tune visual
> >> studio.net.
> >>
> >> "Rob Nicholson" <rob.nicholson@ nospam-unforgettable.c om> wrote in message
> >> news:eN17AVKJFH A.3628@TK2MSFTN GP15.phx.gbl...
> >> > >I have just install it on other system with almost the same spec and
> >> > >its
> >> > >still slow.
> >> >
> >> > I'm running on a AMD 2100+ with 768MB of RAM and the IDE is perfectly
> >> > responsive.
> >> >
> >> > How about some specific examples?
> >> >
> >> > Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "generic feeling" - maybe not quite
> >> > the right word in English but please don't ask me to help with your
> >> > native
> >> > language! :-)
> >> >
> >> > Cheers, Rob.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]