conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

[Amka]

Hi

I have a project which I converted from Vb to Vb.NEt

But the system is running extremely slow. I have Intel PIII Processor , 256
MB RAM. Plz let me know if tehre is anything I can do to enhance the
performance of my system.

I know from MSDN that vs.net can run on p-II even, then why is the system so
slow?

Regards.

[Armin Zingler]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

"Amka" <red@red.red> schrieb[color=blue]
>
> I have a project which I converted from Vb to Vb.NEt
>
> But the system is running extremely slow. I have Intel PIII Processor
> , 256 MB RAM. Plz let me know if tehre is anything I can do to
> enhance the performance of my system.
>
> I know from MSDN that vs.net can run on p-II even, then why is the
> system so slow?[/color]

If it runs, MSDN is correct. What is your problem? VS.NET is too slow or
your converted project is too slow? In both cases, please be more specific
on *what* is slow. On my XP1600+/512MB the IDE is often too slow, so I am
not surprised that it is also true on a P3 (nevertheless I think it
shouldn't).


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[Peter van der Goes]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET


"Amka" <red@red.red> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I have a project which I converted from Vb to Vb.NEt
>
> But the system is running extremely slow. I have Intel PIII Processor ,[/color]
256[color=blue]
> MB RAM. Plz let me know if tehre is anything I can do to enhance the
> performance of my system.
>
> I know from MSDN that vs.net can run on p-II even, then why is the system[/color]
so[color=blue]
> slow?
>
> Regards.
>
>[/color]
Please provide some details, Amka.
What, exactly, is running slowly? The Visual Studio .NET IDE, your solution
in the IDE, or your solution as deployed? What does your solution do? Is
database access involved, etc? Also, what speed CPU and what other hardware
is involved?
Without detailed information it's difficult to provide constructive
suggestions, except to say that if your concerns are about Visual Studio
..NET itself, an additional 256 Meg of memory will produce a noticeable
improvement, IME.

--
Peter [MVP Academic]

[Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

Amka,
In addition to Armin's comments.

Remember there are things that you would do in VB6 to improve performance
that may actually hurt performance in VB.NET.

The following articles provide information on writing .NET code that
performs well.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndotnet/html/fastmanagedcode.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndotnet/html/highperfmanagedapps.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndotnet/html/vbnstrcatn.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dv_vstechart/html/vbtchperfopt.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndotnet/html/dotnetperftechs.asp

Hope this helps
Jay


"Amka" <red@red.red> wrote in message
news:u85R4oN5DH A.2404@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hi
>
> I have a project which I converted from Vb to Vb.NEt
>
> But the system is running extremely slow. I have Intel PIII Processor ,[/color]
256[color=blue]
> MB RAM. Plz let me know if tehre is anything I can do to enhance the
> performance of my system.
>
> I know from MSDN that vs.net can run on p-II even, then why is the system[/color]
so[color=blue]
> slow?
>
> Regards.
>
>[/color]

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

* "Amka" <red@red.red> scripsit:[color=blue]
> I have a project which I converted from Vb to Vb.NEt
>
> But the system is running extremely slow. I have Intel PIII Processor , 256
> MB RAM. Plz let me know if tehre is anything I can do to enhance the
> performance of my system.[/color]

If you run VS.NET on a machine with 256 MB RAM, add RAM to the machine.
I have VS.NET installed on two machines:

PII 350, 256 MB RAM: Sometimes the IDE "hangs", but it's possible to
work, even on larger projects (> 150 classes).

PIV 1.6, 785 MB RAM: Incredible fast. One year ago, the machine had
256 MB RAM, after adding 512 MB everything was /much/ faster.

--
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>

[Cor]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

Hi Amka,

Herfried K. Wagner says often he uses a PII 350 (I do not know if that is
changed)

So tell us something more what is the slow part?
Maybe we can help you then.

Cor[color=blue]
>
> I have a project which I converted from Vb to Vb.NEt
> But the system is running extremely slow. I have Intel PIII Processor ,[/color]
256[color=blue]
> MB RAM. Plz let me know if tehre is anything I can do to enhance the
> performance of my system.
>[/color]

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

* "Cor" <non@non.com> scripsit:[color=blue]
> Herfried K. Wagner says often he uses a PII 350 (I do not know if that is
> changed)[/color]

Yes, that's true. On weekends I use this machine. Nevertheless, I have
configured the machine to run fast, by deactivating some services and
applications. And I never run more than one instance of VS.NET at once.

--
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>

[Amka]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

Thanks Peter. I have even tried with extra RAM, it did not help. I have
given the details here. Plz see the reply to Cor.

"Peter van der Goes" <p_vandergoes@m ars.cox.neptune > wrote in message
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>
> "Amka" <red@red.red> wrote in message
> news:u85R4oN5DH A.2404@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Hi
> >
> > I have a project which I converted from Vb to Vb.NEt
> >
> > But the system is running extremely slow. I have Intel PIII Processor ,[/color]
> 256[color=green]
> > MB RAM. Plz let me know if tehre is anything I can do to enhance the
> > performance of my system.
> >
> > I know from MSDN that vs.net can run on p-II even, then why is the[/color][/color]
system[color=blue]
> so[color=green]
> > slow?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >[/color]
> Please provide some details, Amka.
> What, exactly, is running slowly? The Visual Studio .NET IDE, your[/color]
solution[color=blue]
> in the IDE, or your solution as deployed? What does your solution do? Is
> database access involved, etc? Also, what speed CPU and what other[/color]
hardware[color=blue]
> is involved?
> Without detailed information it's difficult to provide constructive
> suggestions, except to say that if your concerns are about Visual Studio
> .NET itself, an additional 256 Meg of memory will produce a noticeable
> improvement, IME.
>
> --
> Peter [MVP Academic]
>
>[/color]

[Amka]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

> In addition to Armin's comments
I did not find any response by Armin. Appreciate if you look into the
details of my issue,as given to Cor.

"Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Jay_Harlow_MVP @msn.com> wrote in message
news:edb6AEO5DH A.1428@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Amka,
> In addition to Armin's comments.
>
> Remember there are things that you would do in VB6 to improve performance
> that may actually hurt performance in VB.NET.
>
> The following articles provide information on writing .NET code that
> performs well.
>
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...anagedcode.asp[color=blue]
>
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...anagedapps.asp[color=blue]
>
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...vbnstrcatn.asp[color=blue]
>
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...tchperfopt.asp[color=blue]
>
>[/color]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...tperftechs.asp[color=blue]
>
> Hope this helps
> Jay
>
>
> "Amka" <red@red.red> wrote in message
> news:u85R4oN5DH A.2404@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Hi
> >
> > I have a project which I converted from Vb to Vb.NEt
> >
> > But the system is running extremely slow. I have Intel PIII Processor ,[/color]
> 256[color=green]
> > MB RAM. Plz let me know if tehre is anything I can do to enhance the
> > performance of my system.
> >
> > I know from MSDN that vs.net can run on p-II even, then why is the[/color][/color]
system[color=blue]
> so[color=green]
> > slow?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Amka]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

Sure Cor. Actually I converted this project from VB to VB.NET
Now as I open this project by clicking to any form in the solution's
explorer, it takes considerable amount of time to open the form. After the
form is opened, the pointer is still as the hourglass for a long time.So the
issues are showing up in the design time itself. Do we have some settings
here that could be changed accordingly to enhance the system's performance,
like the InterOp, or debugger, or any background process that might be
having a direct link with the performance? Please help. Also, I must mention
that the application is pretty huge with around 120 forms and class modules
put together.
Regards.


What we would ideally like is to know if there are any settings in .NET IDE

which would result in a performance hit. Would there be any settings ( like

referrring to InterOp DLLs) which could be turned off or for that matter

turned on which would help us.

Also would there be any background process running ( like a debugger or so)

which may reduce the speed. We have noticed that even after a file is

opened in design/code view, the mouse pointer is still in the hourglass

mode which typically indicates that there are some background processes

running.




"Cor" <non@non.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Amka,
>
> Herfried K. Wagner says often he uses a PII 350 (I do not know if that is
> changed)
>
> So tell us something more what is the slow part?
> Maybe we can help you then.
>
> Cor[color=green]
> >
> > I have a project which I converted from Vb to Vb.NEt
> > But the system is running extremely slow. I have Intel PIII Processor ,[/color]
> 256[color=green]
> > MB RAM. Plz let me know if tehre is anything I can do to enhance the
> > performance of my system.
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Armin Zingler]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

"Amka" <red@red.red> schrieb[color=blue][color=green]
> > In addition to Armin's comments[/color]
> I did not find any response by Armin.[/color]

Heeellooo, I am over here in the vb.net group ;-) .... hmm, he/she can't
hear me..
[color=blue]
> Appreciate if you look into the
> details of my issue,as given to Cor.[/color]

I don't see a reply to Cor.


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[Cor]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

Hi Amka,

Are you using 2002 or 2003 because 2002 I remember me now is starting much
slower than 2003.

Cor

[Cor]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

Hi Armin,

I am angry about something, I think you hear it probably this week.

This is the message to me,
My answer is about 2002 and 2003

Sure Cor. Actually I converted this project from VB to VB.NET
Now as I open this project by clicking to any form in the solution's
explorer, it takes considerable amount of time to open the form. After the
form is opened, the pointer is still as the hourglass for a long time.So the
issues are showing up in the design time itself. Do we have some settings
here that could be changed accordingly to enhance the system's performance,
like the InterOp, or debugger, or any background process that might be
having a direct link with the performance? Please help. Also, I must mention
that the application is pretty huge with around 120 forms and class modules
put together.
Regards.


What we would ideally like is to know if there are any settings in .NET IDE

which would result in a performance hit. Would there be any settings ( like

referrring to InterOp DLLs) which could be turned off or for that matter

turned on which would help us.

Also would there be any background process running ( like a debugger or so)

which may reduce the speed. We have noticed that even after a file is

opened in design/code view, the mouse pointer is still in the hourglass

mode which typically indicates that there are some background processes

running.

[Armin Zingler]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

"Amka" <red@red.red> schrieb[color=blue]
> Sure Cor. Actually I converted this project from VB to VB.NET
> Now as I open this project by clicking to any form in the
> solution's explorer, it takes considerable amount of time to open the
> form. After the form is opened, the pointer is still as the hourglass
> for a long time.So the issues are showing up in the design time
> itself.[/color]

Opening the Form designer is really sssslllooowww. "Even" on my
XP1600+/512MB. I set the default editor for Forms to the code editor because
I modify the code much more frequently than the layout. If you also want
this, and if you don't want to "jump" to the "view code" icon: right-click
on the form in the solution explorer, "open with...", select "Microsoft
Visual Basic-Editor", click "Standard".


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[Armin Zingler]

Re: conversion of proj from Vb to .NET

"Cor" <non@non.com> schrieb[color=blue]
> Hi Armin,
>
> I am angry about something, I think you hear it probably this
> week.[/color]

??
[color=blue]
> This is the message to me,[/color]

Thanks, but I received it meanwhile.


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