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  • fwells11@hotmail.com

    How to keep a running total

    Hi there. As you will see from my questions, I am an SQL newb. I
    dabble but never get to spend enough time to get proficient so base any
    feeedback on that basis please. This is all theoretical information at
    this point so I am also going to post this in a MySQL related group. I
    will create some designs and post back to the group if I get any
    feedback I can use.

    Problem:

    I would like to be able to keep a running percentage total in a field
    associated with my users. In order to calculate the totals, I will
    parsing a text file with entries from my users in it. The parser (AWK
    etc) will search the file for specific text, compare it to information
    in another file and output some entries into a csv file which can
    subsequently be imported into the database.

    The users make posts that are considered good and bad and the rating
    percentage must be based on that. For example, if a user makes 10
    posts in a day, and 4 of them are considered 'bad' by my criterion, the
    rating should reflect a score of 60% for that day.

    However, the rating is an ongoing value that will be adjusted daily and
    I must maintain a running total against all previous posts. So, lets
    say on day two the same user posts 10 more times and 3 are 'bad', I
    must adjust his score to reflect a total percentage rating which would
    then be 20 posts with 7 being bad for an overall rating of 65% etc.

    My question is, how should I go about recording and calculating all
    this information?

    Here are my thoughts. I have a users table with a field called
    something like 'Rating' which stores the overall value (65% etc). This
    value would have to be calculated from fields in another table like
    'Posts' which records each post in 'Good' and "Bad' fields that
    increment. The Good and Bad fields would be incremented (populated)
    from the text that gets imported etc.

    Looking for thoughts from experienced db designers please. Thanks a
    lot in advance for any responses.

  • John Bell

    #2
    Re: How to keep a running total

    Hi

    The is a group aimed at SQL Server and therefore you may want to post in a
    more appropriate forum.

    When posting table definitions (DDL) and example data (in a usable form) are
    always less ambiguous than a drawn out description see
    http://www.aspfaq.com/etiquette.asp?id=5006 although the means of obtaining
    these may be different on MySQL. You current attempt(s) and expected output
    will also be a good indication of what you are trying to achieve.

    I don't know enough about MySQL to post accurate examples , but assuming
    your date is in a 8 character column (say formatted 'CCYYMMDD') and each
    user is identified by an ID column, then the following may work (although it
    may not be the fastest of solutions!):

    SELECT a.id, a.date,
    (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM MyData b where b.Date = a.Date and Rating = 'Bad' ) AS
    TodaysBad,
    (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM MyData b where b.Date = a.Date ) AS TodaysTotal,
    (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM MyData b where b.Date <= a.Date and Rating = 'Bad' )
    AS CumulativeBad,
    (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM MyData b where b.Date <= a.Date ) AS CumulativeTotal
    FROM MyDate A
    WHERE A.Date = '20050827'

    John


    <fwells11@hotma il.com> wrote in message
    news:1125084576 .325630.252130@ g44g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .[color=blue]
    > Hi there. As you will see from my questions, I am an SQL newb. I
    > dabble but never get to spend enough time to get proficient so base any
    > feeedback on that basis please. This is all theoretical information at
    > this point so I am also going to post this in a MySQL related group. I
    > will create some designs and post back to the group if I get any
    > feedback I can use.
    >
    > Problem:
    >
    > I would like to be able to keep a running percentage total in a field
    > associated with my users. In order to calculate the totals, I will
    > parsing a text file with entries from my users in it. The parser (AWK
    > etc) will search the file for specific text, compare it to information
    > in another file and output some entries into a csv file which can
    > subsequently be imported into the database.
    >
    > The users make posts that are considered good and bad and the rating
    > percentage must be based on that. For example, if a user makes 10
    > posts in a day, and 4 of them are considered 'bad' by my criterion, the
    > rating should reflect a score of 60% for that day.
    >
    > However, the rating is an ongoing value that will be adjusted daily and
    > I must maintain a running total against all previous posts. So, lets
    > say on day two the same user posts 10 more times and 3 are 'bad', I
    > must adjust his score to reflect a total percentage rating which would
    > then be 20 posts with 7 being bad for an overall rating of 65% etc.
    >
    > My question is, how should I go about recording and calculating all
    > this information?
    >
    > Here are my thoughts. I have a users table with a field called
    > something like 'Rating' which stores the overall value (65% etc). This
    > value would have to be calculated from fields in another table like
    > 'Posts' which records each post in 'Good' and "Bad' fields that
    > increment. The Good and Bad fields would be incremented (populated)
    > from the text that gets imported etc.
    >
    > Looking for thoughts from experienced db designers please. Thanks a
    > lot in advance for any responses.
    >[/color]


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    • Hugo Kornelis

      #3
      Re: How to keep a running total

      On 26 Aug 2005 12:29:36 -0700, fwells11@hotmai l.com wrote:

      (snip)[color=blue]
      >Problem:
      >
      >I would like to be able to keep a running percentage total in a field
      >associated with my users.[/color]

      Hi fwells11,

      Don't. The basic idea of a databsae is that you don't store information
      that can be computed from other information; you compute it whenever you
      need it. There are exceptions to this rule (mainly performance-related),
      but I don't think your case is one of them.

      John already gave you a suggestion. If that doesn't work for you, then
      post table structure (as CREATE TABLE statements), sample data (as
      INSERT statements) and expected output and I'll see if I can help you
      further (note - I can only help you with a MS SQL Server solution, as I
      don't speak MySQL).

      John already mentioned www.aspfaq.com/5006, so I won't repeat that.

      Best, Hugo
      --

      (Remove _NO_ and _SPAM_ to get my e-mail address)

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      • fwells11@hotmail.com

        #4
        Re: How to keep a running total

        Thank you John. It is going to take me some time to be able to post
        some DDL info that can be expounded on. Hopefully I can post something
        useful within a few days.

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        • fwells11@hotmail.com

          #5
          Re: How to keep a running total

          Thank you Hugo. The rating number will be viewed hundred, maybe
          thousands of times per day. I suspect that I cannot afford the
          performance hit associated with calculating the value with every page
          hit. There doesn't seem to be much point to an on-the-fly calculation
          if that figure only changes daily either...

          In regards to having the db process my data, unfortunately the raw data
          only comes in the form of huge text files. Files so large they really
          need to be parsed for the information I need, compared with each other
          then fed into yet another small but focused file with only the set of
          information that then needs to be inserted into the db. Nothing would
          make me happier than not having to deal with external data but I don't
          see how I can do this any other way. Please enlighten me if you do
          believe SQL server can accomplish something like this.

          Hopefully I will have something more concrete to post in a few days
          when I can give this some more thought and possibly throw some actual
          examples of the data to the group.

          Best Regards,
          -Frank

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          • Hugo Kornelis

            #6
            Re: How to keep a running total

            On 29 Aug 2005 22:38:58 -0700, fwells11@hotmai l.com wrote:
            [color=blue]
            >Thank you Hugo. The rating number will be viewed hundred, maybe
            >thousands of times per day. I suspect that I cannot afford the
            >performance hit associated with calculating the value with every page
            >hit. There doesn't seem to be much point to an on-the-fly calculation
            >if that figure only changes daily either...[/color]

            Hi Frank,

            Sorry for the delayed reply. An illness kept me from the computer for
            most of the last days.

            In that case, I agree that it's better to calculate it once and store
            it. But you might still have a chance to have the database do all the
            dirty work.

            Create a VIEW to calculate the information you needed. Make sure that
            you use all the options and navigate around all the limitations of
            indexed views. Then, create a clustered index on the view. This will
            force SQL Server to "materializ e" the view (i.e. it will execute it
            once, store the results, and make sure to change the stored results when
            once of the rows used in the calculation changes).

            It's possible that the extra work to keep the materialized view correct
            slows down the batch process for importing new data. If that's the case
            for you, then you can consider dropping the view before the import and
            recreating it when the import is finished.
            [color=blue]
            >Hopefully I will have something more concrete to post in a few days
            >when I can give this some more thought and possibly throw some actual
            >examples of the data to the group.[/color]

            I'm looking forward to it!

            Best, Hugo

            Best, Hugo
            --

            (Remove _NO_ and _SPAM_ to get my e-mail address)

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