ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is now available

**Mensanator** · Nov 15 '08, 01:55 AM

Re: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is now available

On Nov 14, 6:02 pm, Trent Mick <tre...@actives tate.comwrote:

I'm happy to announce that ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is now
available for download from:
http://www.activestate.com/Products/activepython/
>
ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is based on Python 2.6.0.
>
What is ActivePython?
---------------------
>
ActivePython is ActiveState's binary distribution of Python. Builds for
Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, HP-UX and AIX are made freely available.
>
ActivePython includes the Python core and the many core extensions:
zlib and bzip2 for data compression, the SQLite (sqlite3) database
libraries, OpenSSL bindings for HTTPS support, the Tix GUI widgets for
Tkinter, ElementTree for XML processing, ctypes (on supported platforms)
for low-level library access, and others. The Windows distribution ships
with PyWin32 -- a suite of Windows tools developed by Mark Hammond,
including bindings to the Win32 API and Windows COM. See this page for
full details:
http://docs.activestate.com/activepy...sincluded.html
>
As well, ActivePython ships with a wealth of documentation for both new
and experienced Python programmers. In addition to the core Python docs,
ActivePython includes the full "What's New in Python" series, "Dive into
Python", the Python FAQs & HOWTOs, and the Python Enhancement Proposals
(PEPs).
>
An online version of the docs can be found here:
http://docs.activestate.com/activepy...6/welcome.html
>
We would welcome any and all feedback to:
activepython-feedb...@active state.com
>
Please file bugs against ActivePython at:
http://bugs.activestate.com/query.cg...t=ActivePython
>
On what platforms does ActivePython run?
----------------------------------------
>
ActivePython includes installers for the following platforms:
>
- Windows/x86

What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator account to
install it?

- Mac OS X
- Linux/x86
- Solaris/SPARC
- Solaris/SPARC 64-bit
- Solaris/x86
- Linux/x86_64 ("x86_64" is also known as "AMD64")
- HP-UX/PA-RISC
- AIX/PowerPC
>
Extra Bits
----------
>
ActivePython releases also include the following:
>
- ActivePython26. chm: An MS compiled help collection
of the full ActivePython documentation set. Linux users of
applications such as xCHM might find this useful. This package is
installed by default on Windows.
>
Extra bits are available from:
http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePython/etc/
>
Apologies for the delay. We were crazy-busy getting the Komodo 5.0
release out. Check it out:
http://www.activestate.com/products/komodo/
>
Thanks, and enjoy!
>
Trent
>
p.s. We hope to have ActivePython 3.0 builds out fairly soon.
>
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Python Tech Lead
trentm at activestate.com

**Trent Mick** · Nov 17 '08, 07:45 PM

Re: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is now available

Mensanator wrote:

>I'm happy to announce that ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is now
>available for download from:
> http://www.activestate.com/Products/activepython/
>...
>- Windows/x86

>
What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator account to
install it?

My currently understanding is that the ActivePython installer will
prompt for administrator privileges if required. I know that if the
current user is a member of the administrators *group* (different from
being the "Administra tor" *user*), that this is sufficient to install
and use ActivePython.

I've started this bug:

Support | ActiveState

http://bugs.activestate.com/show_bug.cgi?id=80974

Get help with ActiveState products. Documentation, service status, and direct support for enterprise customers.

to test installation as a user that is not a member of the admin group
and to update the ActivePython installation docs with that info.

I'd appreciate comments on your experiences, esp. if it looks like
something is going awry with the ActivePython installer.

Sincerely,
Trent

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**Mensanator** · Nov 17 '08, 08:35 PM

Re: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is now available

On Nov 17, 1:45 pm, Trent Mick <tre...@actives tate.comwrote:

Mensanator wrote:

I'm happy to announce that ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is now
available for download from:
http://www.activestate.com/Products/activepython/
...
- Windows/x86

>

What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator account to
install it?

>
My currently understanding is that the ActivePython installer will
prompt for administrator privileges if required. I know that if the
current user is a member of the administrators *group* (different from
being the "Administra tor" *user*), that this is sufficient to install
and use ActivePython.

I'll have to try that, as it is NOT the case with the Windows
installer
from Python.org. Admin privelleges are NOT sufficient if you want IDLE
to work. You have to use the Administrator account (which is disabled
by default on Vista). If you have a way around that, then great.

>
I've started this bug:
http://bugs.activestate.com/show_bug.cgi?id=80974
to test installation as a user that is not a member of the admin group
and to update the ActivePython installation docs with that info.
>
I'd appreciate comments on your experiences, esp. if it looks like
something is going awry with the ActivePython installer.
>
Sincerely,
Trent
>
--
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trentm at activestate.com

**Trent Mick** · Nov 17 '08, 09:15 PM

Installation on Vista (Was: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is nowavailable)

Mensanator wrote:

>>What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator account to
>>install it?

>My currently understanding is that the ActivePython installer will
>prompt for administrator privileges if required. I know that if the
>current user is a member of the administrators *group* (different from
>being the "Administra tor" *user*), that this is sufficient to install
>and use ActivePython.

>
I'll have to try that, as it is NOT the case with the Windows
installer
from Python.org. Admin privelleges are NOT sufficient if you want IDLE
to work. You have to use the Administrator account (which is disabled
by default on Vista). If you have a way around that, then great.

I believe that IDLE ran just fine when installed as a user in the admin
group.

Trent

--
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trentm at activestate.com

**Steve Holden** · Nov 17 '08, 11:45 PM

Re: Installation on Vista (Was: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is nowavailable)

Trent Mick wrote:

Mensanator wrote:

>>>What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator account to
>>>install it?
>>My currently understanding is that the ActivePython installer will
>>prompt for administrator privileges if required. I know that if the
>>current user is a member of the administrators *group* (different from
>>being the "Administra tor" *user*), that this is sufficient to install
>>and use ActivePython.

>>
>I'll have to try that, as it is NOT the case with the Windows
>installer
>from Python.org. Admin privelleges are NOT sufficient if you want IDLE
>to work. You have to use the Administrator account (which is disabled
>by default on Vista). If you have a way around that, then great.

>
I believe that IDLE ran just fine when installed as a user in the admin
group.

I found the only satisfactory way to install Python all-users on Vista
was to log in as a member of the administrators group, run a command
shell window "as administrator", then run the installer in that window.
That worked fine.

regards
Steve
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**Steve Holden** · Nov 17 '08, 11:45 PM

Re: Installation on Vista (Was: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is nowavailable)

Trent Mick wrote:

Mensanator wrote:

>>>What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator account to
>>>install it?
>>My currently understanding is that the ActivePython installer will
>>prompt for administrator privileges if required. I know that if the
>>current user is a member of the administrators *group* (different from
>>being the "Administra tor" *user*), that this is sufficient to install
>>and use ActivePython.

>>
>I'll have to try that, as it is NOT the case with the Windows
>installer
>from Python.org. Admin privelleges are NOT sufficient if you want IDLE
>to work. You have to use the Administrator account (which is disabled
>by default on Vista). If you have a way around that, then great.

>
I believe that IDLE ran just fine when installed as a user in the admin
group.

I found the only satisfactory way to install Python all-users on Vista
was to log in as a member of the administrators group, run a command
shell window "as administrator", then run the installer in that window.
That worked fine.

regards
Steve
--
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Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/

**Mensanator** · Nov 18 '08, 12:15 AM

Re: Installation on Vista (Was: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is nowavailable)

On Nov 17, 5:44 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:

Trent Mick wrote:

Mensanator wrote:

>>What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator account to
>>install it?
>My currently understanding is that the ActivePython installer will
>prompt for administrator privileges if required. I know that if the
>current user is a member of the administrators *group* (different from
>being the "Administra tor" *user*), that this is sufficient to install
>and use ActivePython.

>

I'll have to try that, as it is NOT the case with the Windows
installer
from Python.org. Admin privelleges are NOT sufficient if you want IDLE
to work. You have to use the Administrator account (which is disabled
by default on Vista). If you have a way around that, then great.

>

I believe that IDLE ran just fine when installed as a user in the admin
group.

>
I found the only satisfactory way to install Python all-users on Vista
was to log in as a member of the administrators group, run a command
shell window "as administrator", then run the installer in that window.

Didn't you have to enable the Administrator account (which is disabled
by default in Vista)?

That worked fine.
>
regards
Steve
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**Steve Holden** · Nov 18 '08, 12:35 AM

Re: Installation on Vista (Was: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is nowavailable)

Mensanator wrote:

On Nov 17, 5:44 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:

>Trent Mick wrote:

>>Mensanator wrote:
>>>>>What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator account to
>>>>>install it?
>>>>My currently understanding is that the ActivePython installer will
>>>>prompt for administrator privileges if required. I know that if the
>>>>current user is a member of the administrators *group* (different from
>>>>being the "Administra tor" *user*), that this is sufficient to install
>>>>and use ActivePython.
>>>I'll have to try that, as it is NOT the case with the Windows
>>>installer
>>>from Python.org. Admin privelleges are NOT sufficient if you want IDLE
>>>to work. You have to use the Administrator account (which is disabled
>>>by default on Vista). If you have a way around that, then great.
>>I believe that IDLE ran just fine when installed as a user in the admin
>>group.

>I found the only satisfactory way to install Python all-users on Vista
>was to log in as a member of the administrators group, run a command
>shell window "as administrator", then run the installer in that window.

>
Didn't you have to enable the Administrator account (which is disabled
by default in Vista)?
>

Nope. The Administrator account still shows up as disabled.

regards
Steve
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**Steve Holden** · Nov 18 '08, 12:35 AM

Re: Installation on Vista (Was: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is nowavailable)

Mensanator wrote:

On Nov 17, 5:44 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:

>Trent Mick wrote:

>>Mensanator wrote:
>>>>>What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator account to
>>>>>install it?
>>>>My currently understanding is that the ActivePython installer will
>>>>prompt for administrator privileges if required. I know that if the
>>>>current user is a member of the administrators *group* (different from
>>>>being the "Administra tor" *user*), that this is sufficient to install
>>>>and use ActivePython.
>>>I'll have to try that, as it is NOT the case with the Windows
>>>installer
>>>from Python.org. Admin privelleges are NOT sufficient if you want IDLE
>>>to work. You have to use the Administrator account (which is disabled
>>>by default on Vista). If you have a way around that, then great.
>>I believe that IDLE ran just fine when installed as a user in the admin
>>group.

>I found the only satisfactory way to install Python all-users on Vista
>was to log in as a member of the administrators group, run a command
>shell window "as administrator", then run the installer in that window.

>
Didn't you have to enable the Administrator account (which is disabled
by default in Vista)?
>

Nope. The Administrator account still shows up as disabled.

regards
Steve
--
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**Mensanator** · Nov 18 '08, 12:55 AM

Re: Installation on Vista (Was: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is nowavailable)

On Nov 17, 6:26 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:

Mensanator wrote:

On Nov 17, 5:44 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:

Trent Mick wrote:
>Mensanator wrote:
>>>>What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator account to
>>>>install it?
>>>My currently understanding is that the ActivePython installer will
>>>prompt for administrator privileges if required. I know that if the
>>>current user is a member of the administrators *group* (different from
>>>being the "Administra tor" *user*), that this is sufficient to install
>>>and use ActivePython.
>>I'll have to try that, as it is NOT the case with the Windows
>>installer
>>from Python.org. Admin privelleges are NOT sufficient if you want IDLE
>>to work. You have to use the Administrator account (which is disabled
>>by default on Vista). If you have a way around that, then great.
>I believe that IDLE ran just fine when installed as a user in the admin
>group.
I found the only satisfactory way to install Python all-users on Vista
was to log in as a member of the administrators group, run a command
shell window "as administrator", then run the installer in that window..

>

Didn't you have to enable the Administrator account (which is disabled
by default in Vista)?

>
Nope. The Administrator account still shows up as disabled.

Strange, I had to. Had you enebled it previously and assinged a
password?
I couldn't use a "runas" command without a password. I never tried the
Administrator-Disabled/Password-Assigned combination, only

Administrator-Disabled/Password-Unassigned
Administrator-Enabled/Password-Unassigned
Administrator-Enabled/Password-Assigned

the last of which worked.

Or did you do something else, like turn off UAC?

>
regards
Steve
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**Steve Holden** · Nov 18 '08, 01:25 AM

Re: Installation on Vista (Was: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is nowavailable)

Mensanator wrote:

On Nov 17, 6:26 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:

>Mensanator wrote:

>>On Nov 17, 5:44 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:
>>>Trent Mick wrote:
>>>>Mensanato r wrote:
>>>>>>>What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator account to
>>>>>>>instal l it?
>>>>>>My currently understanding is that the ActivePython installer will
>>>>>>prompt for administrator privileges if required. I know that if the
>>>>>>current user is a member of the administrators *group* (different from
>>>>>>being the "Administra tor" *user*), that this is sufficient to install
>>>>>>and use ActivePython.
>>>>>I'll have to try that, as it is NOT the case with the Windows
>>>>>installe r
>>>>>from Python.org. Admin privelleges are NOT sufficient if you want IDLE
>>>>>to work. You have to use the Administrator account (which is disabled
>>>>>by default on Vista). If you have a way around that, then great.
>>>>I believe that IDLE ran just fine when installed as a user in the admin
>>>>group.
>>>I found the only satisfactory way to install Python all-users on Vista
>>>was to log in as a member of the administrators group, run a command
>>>shell window "as administrator", then run the installer in that window.
>>Didn't you have to enable the Administrator account (which is disabled
>>by default in Vista)?

>Nope. The Administrator account still shows up as disabled.

>
Strange, I had to. Had you enebled it previously and assinged a
password?
I couldn't use a "runas" command without a password. I never tried the
Administrator-Disabled/Password-Assigned combination, only
>
Administrator-Disabled/Password-Unassigned
Administrator-Enabled/Password-Unassigned
Administrator-Enabled/Password-Assigned
>
the last of which worked.
>
Or did you do something else, like turn off UAC?
>

Nope. I have, to the best of my knowledge, never touched the
Administrator account, and I still have UAC turned on. This is Vista
Business, which could (I suppose) make a difference.

regards
Steve
--
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**Mensanator** · Nov 18 '08, 02:05 AM

Re: Installation on Vista (Was: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is nowavailable)

On Nov 17, 7:24 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:

Mensanator wrote:

On Nov 17, 6:26 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:

Mensanator wrote:
>On Nov 17, 5:44 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:
>>Trent Mick wrote:
>>>Mensanator wrote:
>>>>>>What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator account to
>>>>>>install it?
>>>>>My currently understanding is that the ActivePython installer will
>>>>>prompt for administrator privileges if required. I know that if the
>>>>>current user is a member of the administrators *group* (differentfrom
>>>>>being the "Administra tor" *user*), that this is sufficient to install
>>>>>and use ActivePython.
>>>>I'll have to try that, as it is NOT the case with the Windows
>>>>installer
>>>>from Python.org. Admin privelleges are NOT sufficient if you want IDLE
>>>>to work. You have to use the Administrator account (which is disabled
>>>>by default on Vista). If you have a way around that, then great.
>>>I believe that IDLE ran just fine when installed as a user in the admin
>>>group.
>>I found the only satisfactory way to install Python all-users on Vista
>>was to log in as a member of the administrators group, run a command
>>shell window "as administrator", then run the installer in that window.
>Didn't you have to enable the Administrator account (which is disabled
>by default in Vista)?
Nope. The Administrator account still shows up as disabled.

>

Strange, I had to. Had you enebled it previously and assinged a
password?
I couldn't use a "runas" command without a password. I never tried the
Administrator-Disabled/Password-Assigned combination, only

>

Administrator-Disabled/Password-Unassigned
Administrator-Enabled/Password-Unassigned
Administrator-Enabled/Password-Assigned

>

the last of which worked.

>

Or did you do something else, like turn off UAC?

>
Nope. I have, to the best of my knowledge, never touched the
Administrator account, and I still have UAC turned on. This is Vista
Business, which could (I suppose) make a difference.

Well, mine is the home version. I'll try the ActivePython version
first as a regular user and see what happens.

>
regards
Steve
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**Mensanator** · Nov 18 '08, 05:25 AM

Re: Installation on Vista (Was: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is nowavailable)

On Nov 17, 7:58 pm, Mensanator <mensana...@aol .comwrote:

On Nov 17, 7:24 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:
>
>
>
>
>

Mensanator wrote:

On Nov 17, 6:26 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:
>Mensanator wrote:
>>On Nov 17, 5:44 pm, Steve Holden <st...@holdenwe b.comwrote:
>>>Trent Mick wrote:
>>>>Mensanato r wrote:
>>>>>>>What about Vista? Do you need to use the Administrator accountto
>>>>>>>instal l it?
>>>>>>My currently understanding is that the ActivePython installer will
>>>>>>prompt for administrator privileges if required. I know that ifthe
>>>>>>current user is a member of the administrators *group* (different from
>>>>>>being the "Administra tor" *user*), that this is sufficient to install
>>>>>>and use ActivePython.
>>>>>I'll have to try that, as it is NOT the case with the Windows
>>>>>installe r
>>>>>from Python.org. Admin privelleges are NOT sufficient if you want IDLE
>>>>>to work. You have to use the Administrator account (which is disabled
>>>>>by default on Vista). If you have a way around that, then great.
>>>>I believe that IDLE ran just fine when installed as a user in theadmin
>>>>group.
>>>I found the only satisfactory way to install Python all-users on Vista
>>>was to log in as a member of the administrators group, run a command
>>>shell window "as administrator", then run the installer in that window.
>>Didn't you have to enable the Administrator account (which is disabled
>>by default in Vista)?
>Nope. The Administrator account still shows up as disabled.

>

Strange, I had to. Had you enebled it previously and assinged a
password?
I couldn't use a "runas" command without a password. I never tried the
Administrator-Disabled/Password-Assigned combination, only

>

Administrator-Disabled/Password-Unassigned
Administrator-Enabled/Password-Unassigned
Administrator-Enabled/Password-Assigned

>

the last of which worked.

>

Or did you do something else, like turn off UAC?

>

Nope. I have, to the best of my knowledge, never touched the
Administrator account, and I still have UAC turned on. This is Vista
Business, which could (I suppose) make a difference.

>
Well, mine is the home version. I'll try the ActivePython version
first as a regular user and see what happens.

Is this the right version? I think my prior install was 2.6b1 but I
stupidly
forgot to check before installing the ActiveState version.

Python 2.6rc1 (r26rc1:66438, Sep 13 2008, 09:20:38) [MSC v.1500 32 bit
(Intel)] on win32
Type "copyright" , "credits" or "license()" for more information.

*************** *************** *************** *************** ****
Personal firewall software may warn about the connection IDLE
makes to its subprocess using this computer's internal loopback
interface. This connection is not visible on any external
interface and no data is sent to or received from the Internet.
*************** *************** *************** *************** ****

IDLE 2.6

>>>

If so, I had no problem installing it on Vista as an administrator
group
member, no need to invoke Administrator.

>
>
>
>

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**Artur M. Piwko** · Nov 18 '08, 01:05 PM

Re: Installation on Vista (Was: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.0.0 is nowavailable)

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Mensanator <mensanator@aol .comscreamed:

Strange, I had to. Had you enebled it previously and assinged a
password?
I couldn't use a "runas" command without a password. I never tried the
Administrator-Disabled/Password-Assigned combination, only
>
Administrator-Disabled/Password-Unassigned
Administrator-Enabled/Password-Unassigned
Administrator-Enabled/Password-Assigned
>
the last of which worked.
>
Or did you do something else, like turn off UAC?
>

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