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  • Stef Mientki
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    Re: What is the best Python GUI API?

    Abah Joseph wrote:
    What is the best Python GUI API? I am planning to start my first GUI
    application and I need something easy and cross platform. Qt
    applications look beautiful but I hate the license. What do you advice?
    I agree about the Qt-license,
    and I'm now a happy wxPython user.

    cheers,
    Stef
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    • James Harris
      #2
      Re: What is the best Python GUI API?

      On 13 Nov, 18:59, Stef Mientki <stef.mien...@g mail.comwrote:
      Abah Joseph wrote:
      What is the best Python GUI API? I am planning to start my first GUI
      application and I need something easy and cross platform. Qt
      applications look beautiful but I hate the license. What do you advice?
      >
      I agree about the Qt-license,
      and I'm now a happy wxPython user.
      I too have had good results with wxwidgets when developing a GUI. The
      cross-platform native look and feel was a major benefit from my point
      of view allowing screens to "look native" under different OSs with no
      code changes.

      --
      James

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        • rm
          #3
          Re: What is the best Python GUI API?

          On Nov 13, 2:23 pm, James Harris <james.harri... @googlemail.com >
          wrote:
          On 13 Nov, 18:59, Stef Mientki <stef.mien...@g mail.comwrote:
          >
          Abah Joseph wrote:
           What is the best Python GUI API? I am planning to start my first GUI
          application and I need something easy and cross platform. Qt
          applications look beautiful but I hate the license. What do you advice?
          >
          I agree about the Qt-license,
          and I'm now a happy wxPython user.
          >
          I too have had good results with wxwidgets when developing a GUI. The
          cross-platform native look and feel was a major benefit from my point
          of view allowing screens to "look native" under different OSs with no
          code changes.
          >
          --
          James
          Not so good if your native Linux look is KDE. ;) I also hate the fact
          that the GTK File Save/Open dialog box does not allow file/folder
          renames. On Windows, however, wxPython is great. I guess it depends
          on how big your application is and what is the target audience/
          clientele.

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            • Stef Mientki
              #4
              Re: What is the best Python GUI API?

              rm wrote:
              On Nov 13, 2:23 pm, James Harris <james.harri... @googlemail.com >
              wrote:
              >
              >On 13 Nov, 18:59, Stef Mientki <stef.mien...@g mail.comwrote:
              >>
              >>
              >>Abah Joseph wrote:
              >>>
              >>> What is the best Python GUI API? I am planning to start my first GUI
              >>>applicatio n and I need something easy and cross platform. Qt
              >>>applicatio ns look beautiful but I hate the license. What do you advice?
              >>>>
              >>I agree about the Qt-license,
              >>and I'm now a happy wxPython user.
              >>>
              >I too have had good results with wxwidgets when developing a GUI. The
              >cross-platform native look and feel was a major benefit from my point
              >of view allowing screens to "look native" under different OSs with no
              >code changes.
              >>
              >--
              >James
              >>
              >
              Not so good if your native Linux look is KDE. ;) I also hate the fact
              that the GTK File Save/Open dialog box does not allow file/folder
              renames. On Windows, however, wxPython is great. I guess it depends
              on how big your application is and what is the target audience/
              clientele.
              >
              Ok you only guess, but ...
              ... you're suggesting
              - that if the application is too big, wxPython is not a good choice.
              What's big ?
              - if the target is ... ??? ... it's not a good choice, for what audience
              is wxPython not suited ?
              thanks,
              Stef Mientki
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                • rm
                  #5
                  Re: What is the best Python GUI API?

                  On Nov 13, 7:08 pm, Stef Mientki <stef.mien...@g mail.comwrote:
                  rm wrote:
                  On Nov 13, 2:23 pm, James Harris <james.harri... @googlemail.com >
                  wrote:
                  >
                  On 13 Nov, 18:59, Stef Mientki <stef.mien...@g mail.comwrote:
                  >
                  >Abah Joseph wrote:
                  >
                  >> What is the best Python GUI API? I am planning to start my first GUI
                  >>application and I need something easy and cross platform. Qt
                  >>application s look beautiful but I hate the license. What do you advice?
                  >
                  >I agree about the Qt-license,
                  >and I'm now a happy wxPython user.
                  >
                  I too have had good results with wxwidgets when developing a GUI. The
                  cross-platform native look and feel was a major benefit from my point
                  of view allowing screens to "look native" under different OSs with no
                  code changes.
                  >
                  --
                  James
                  >
                  Not so good if your native Linux look is KDE. ;)  I also hate the fact
                  that the GTK File Save/Open dialog box does not allow file/folder
                  renames.  On Windows, however, wxPython is great.  I guess it depends
                  on how big your application is and what is the target audience/
                  clientele.
                  My very first GUI application ever was a wxPython Windows
                  application. You can get it from here if you like:

                  http://rmcorrespond.googlepages.com/DirClean_1_0b1_exe.zip


                  Source Code:

                  http://rmcorrespond.googlepages.com/CocoRename_1.0_Source.zip


                  (Keep in mind that I was just learning at the time, so I am not
                  particularly proud of the code, and I am sure most of it is deprecated
                  by now.)

                  You can say that wxPython was my first love as far as GUI development
                  goes. I still think it is awesome because it is very rich and
                  mature. But, coding with it is not as clean as it could be. There is
                  a lot of boiler plate code needed. And I find it a lot less
                  'Pythonic' than other alternatives.

                  If I was just going to code a small (and I mean small) GUI app for
                  Windows (and possibly for Gnome) I would look into PythonCard. It
                  uses wxPython in the background, but it provides a much nicer API.
                  Unfortunately, not all the power of wxPython is available that way.
                  (Although you can drop down to straight wxPython if needed.)

                  An example of a PythonCard application I wrote (for Windows) can be
                  obtained here:

                  http://rmcorrespond.googlepages.com/CocoRename_1_0_exe.zip


                  Source Code:

                  http://rmcorrespond.googlepages.com/CocoRename_1.0_Source.zip


                  My needs were covered between the two options above. However, two
                  things were bugging me. First, I wanted a better (faster) development
                  environment. It had to be free since all I code is Free as well. The
                  ones I had tried for wxPython were not cutting it. And second, in
                  Linux, I prefer KDE. So, I wanted something that was native to KDE.
                  When Trolltech released QT as a GPL toolkit I figured I would give it
                  a try.

                  What I found was very eye opening. The API was beautiful and
                  intuitive. The tools and IDE (Eric, QT Designer, etc.) were more
                  along the lines of what I was looking for. So, I became a QT
                  believer. Unfortunately, my work circumstances have changed and I
                  haven't done any more GUI programming since then. (I am a Django
                  coder now. :) But, if I was going to do another GUI coding project
                  today, I would go with QT. So, you can see where I am coming from.
                  Your needs may vary.
                  Ok you only guess, but ...
                  .. you're suggesting
                  - that if the application is too big, wxPython is not a good choice.
                  What's big ?
                  - if the target is ... ??? ... it's not a good choice, for what audience
                  is wxPython not suited ?
                  thanks,
                  Stef Mientki
                  >
                  --
                  http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
                  >
                  >

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                    • rm
                      #6
                      Re: What is the best Python GUI API?

                      On Nov 14, 1:59 pm, rm <rmcorresp...@g mail.comwrote:
                      On Nov 13, 7:08 pm, Stef Mientki <stef.mien...@g mail.comwrote:
                      >
                      rm wrote:
                      On Nov 13, 2:23 pm, James Harris <james.harri... @googlemail.com >
                      wrote:
                      >
                      >On 13 Nov, 18:59, Stef Mientki <stef.mien...@g mail.comwrote:
                      >
                      >>Abah Joseph wrote:
                      >
                      >>> What is the best Python GUI API? I am planning to start my first GUI
                      >>>applicatio n and I need something easy and cross platform. Qt
                      >>>applicatio ns look beautiful but I hate the license. What do you advice?
                      >
                      >>I agree about the Qt-license,
                      >>and I'm now a happy wxPython user.
                      >
                      >I too have had good results with wxwidgets when developing a GUI. The
                      >cross-platform native look and feel was a major benefit from my point
                      >of view allowing screens to "look native" under different OSs with no
                      >code changes.
                      >
                      >--
                      >James
                      >
                      Not so good if your native Linux look is KDE. ;)  I also hate the fact
                      that the GTK File Save/Open dialog box does not allow file/folder
                      renames.  On Windows, however, wxPython is great.  I guess it depends
                      on how big your application is and what is the target audience/
                      clientele.
                      >
                      My very first GUI application ever was a wxPython Windows
                      application.  You can get it from here if you like:
                      >
                      http://rmcorrespond.googlepages.com/DirClean_1_0b1_exe.zip

                      >
                      Source Code:
                      >
                      http://rmcorrespond.googlepages.com/CocoRename_1.0_Source.zip

                      >
                      (Keep in mind that I was just learning at the time, so I am not
                      particularly proud of the code, and I am sure most of it is deprecated
                      by now.)
                      >
                      You can say that wxPython was my first love as far as GUI development
                      goes.  I still think it is awesome because it is very rich and
                      mature.  But, coding with it is not as clean as it could be.  There is
                      a lot of boiler plate code needed.  And I find it a lot less
                      'Pythonic' than other alternatives.
                      >
                      If I was just going to code a small (and I mean small) GUI app for
                      Windows (and possibly for Gnome) I would look into PythonCard.  It
                      uses wxPython in the background, but it provides a much nicer API.
                      Unfortunately, not all the power of wxPython is available that way.
                      (Although you can drop down to straight wxPython if needed.)
                      >
                      An example of a PythonCard application I wrote (for Windows) can be
                      obtained here:
                      >
                      http://rmcorrespond.googlepages.com/CocoRename_1_0_exe.zip

                      >
                      Source Code:
                      >
                      http://rmcorrespond.googlepages.com/CocoRename_1.0_Source.zip

                      >
                      My needs were covered between the two options above.  However, two
                      things were bugging me.  First, I wanted a better (faster) development
                      environment.  It had to be free since all I code is Free as well.  The
                      ones I had tried for wxPython were not cutting it.  And second, in
                      Linux, I prefer KDE.  So, I wanted something that was native to KDE.
                      When Trolltech released QT as a GPL toolkit I figured I would give it
                      a try.
                      >
                      What I found was very eye opening.  The API was beautiful and
                      intuitive.  The tools and IDE (Eric, QT Designer, etc.) were more
                      along the lines of what I was looking for.  So, I became a QT
                      believer.  Unfortunately, my work circumstances have changed and I
                      haven't done any more GUI programming since then.  (I am a Django
                      coder now. :)  But, if I was going to do another GUI coding project
                      today, I would go with QT.  So, you can see where I am coming from.
                      Your needs may vary.
                      >
                      Ok you only guess, but ...
                      .. you're suggesting
                      - that if the application is too big, wxPython is not a good choice.
                      What's big ?
                      - if the target is ... ??? ... it's not a good choice, for what audience
                      is wxPython not suited ?
                      thanks,
                      Stef Mientki
                      >
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                      >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
                      >
                      >
                      Oops! Here is the source code for DirClean:

                      http://rmcorrespond.googlepages.com/DirClean_1.0b1_Source.zip

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